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ga.lion

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With the OL injuries PSU should incorporate some traditional I back options. Would love to see Barkley hitting the hole with steam of speed as a change of pace...Great win as all wins are Great! Also good to get Hamilton in the mix
 
With the OL injuries PSU should incorporate some traditional I back options. Would love to see Barkley hitting the hole with steam of speed as a change of pace...Great win as all wins are Great! Also good to get Hamilton in the mix

You don't understand blocking schemes if you think running out of the I would help a depleted oline. As an OC for 15 years I ran both the spread and the I. Frankly, I like to coach the I better but that said, if you don't have a good oline you can't run from the I. In the spread the zone blocking creates cut back alleys to make a jump cut into. While you can zone from the I, the back's geometry doesn't allow for that cut back. If you can't stop penetration you are dead in the I.
 
There will never be an I, snap from center, or huddle under Moorhead. He dealt with Oline issues at Fordham too, I think he has the mental capacity as a coach to put the players in best spot to succeed in our current system.
 
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With the OL injuries PSU should incorporate some traditional I back options. Would love to see Barkley hitting the hole with steam of speed as a change of pace...Great win as all wins are Great! Also good to get Hamilton in the mix

Wow! Are you serious? That would be a categorical fail on an all time intergalactic level.

Did you not watch the last two years with our O line without the read option offense to keep the defense on their heels? Are you not aware that Penn State has the worst third and short yardage conversion rate in the Big Ten, and we now have our top three Offensive Tackles injured and out for the year?

Having the post snap read is one of the reasons why Penn State's offensive line has been playing better this year (along with more experience and better coaching). Putting in Sam Gash (my favorite all time blocking FB) would just take away from a potential perimeter skill player and allow more defenders in the box. Also, the FB would only be able to take on one of the many defenders crashing through the LOS on the way to gang tackle whomever had the ball (they may get there before McSorely had a chance to hand it off to Barkley).

This is a really bad idea, considering the state of our offensive line. It's also a semi bad idea regardless of the O line, because it is contrary to the offensive philosophy that Moorhead has implemented.
 
With the OL injuries PSU should incorporate some traditional I back options. Would love to see Barkley hitting the hole with steam of speed as a change of pace...Great win as all wins are Great! Also good to get Hamilton in the mix
Let's pretend for a second we had the personnel to make that work (which as others pointed out we don't). It took all of Spring ball and all of preseason practice to install the current offensive system. So you want to install a new blocking scheme in five days?????
 
You don't understand blocking schemes if you think running out of the I would help a depleted oline. As an OC for 15 years I ran both the spread and the I. Frankly, I like to coach the I better but that said, if you don't have a good oline you can't run from the I. In the spread the zone blocking creates cut back alleys to make a jump cut into. While you can zone from the I, the back's geometry doesn't allow for that cut back. If you can't stop penetration you are dead in the I.
Let us not forget the need for a FB who blocks like a pulling guard. No one like that on the roster.
 
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Your pony has mastered its one trick.

At this point, all the Lions can do is hope that one or two of their injured players return, at the very least, to play Michigan State in two weeks. In all likelihood, Fries redshirt will be yanked, PSU will be forced to see what it has in two guys not on the depth chart, Sterling Jenkins and Brendan Brosnan, and Michal Menet and/or Alex Gellerstedt could be called into action, too.

==From Greg Pickle moments ago
 
At this point, all the Lions can do is hope that one or two of their injured players return, at the very least, to play Michigan State in two weeks. In all likelihood, Fries redshirt will be yanked, PSU will be forced to see what it has in two guys not on the depth chart, Sterling Jenkins and Brendan Brosnan, and Michal Menet and/or Alex Gellerstedt could be called into action, too.

==From Greg Pickle moments ago

Greg Pickel is hardly a mouthpiece for Coach Franklin. I hope you realize he covered every possible base by naming every possible player on the OLine, yet threw in the "in all likelihood" for deniability. I'm frankly surprised he didn't include conjecture on how to get CJ Thorpe enrolled in time for Rutgers.
 
Greg Pickel is hardly a mouthpiece for Coach Franklin. I hope you realize he covered every possible base by naming every possible player on the OLine, yet threw in the "in all likelihood" for deniability. I'm frankly surprised he didn't include conjecture on how to get CJ Thorpe enrolled in time for Rutgers.

Cant wait for you to cry when Fries plays against Rutgers.

I'll start a thread just for you and you alone.
 
With the OL injuries PSU should incorporate some traditional I back options. Would love to see Barkley hitting the hole with steam of speed as a change of pace...Great win as all wins are Great! Also good to get Hamilton in the mix
Perhaps it would work on Madden but not in real life. Are you seriously suggesting installing a completely new system, rules and scheme in one week. How is trying to teach inexperienced linemen a whole new blocking scheme from what they spent the entire season practicing suppose to help them? This is one of the stupidest suggestions I seen on here in a long time.
 
They wont ever be under center or in the I, accept it. I wouldnt mind seeing a 2 back look on each side of TM though. I know thats not in the playbook but the wheel route to Barkley has worked well and it could be a nice change up to make teh D think a little
 
They wont ever be under center or in the I, accept it. I wouldnt mind seeing a 2 back look on each side of TM though. I know thats not in the playbook but the wheel route to Barkley has worked well and it could be a nice change up to make teh D think a little
I'd like to see them try a shovel pass to Barkley and get him ahead of the initial rush with some room to work. A screen or a quick flat pass out of the back field I think I'd give a try too.
 
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