Jurors today are more worried about their future status on FB and the Monday morning water cooler crowd's acceptance than they are about administering any sort of justice.
Official Graham Spanier trial thread.
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I'm still a little confused as to why they opted out of calling even a single witness? I would've thought input from the FBI would've especially driven home the point that there was no conspiracy.
Maybe Pennsylvania can call in another retired judge to do the next trial. Someone like Cynthia Baldwin. Perfect closure to this charade.
If he did exactly as he should have, why did Sandusky roam central Pennsylvania
molesting young boys for eight more years? Why is he now a pariah whose statue
is buried in some cubbyhole? Why did he say he should have done more? Any intelligent
person knows he didn't do "exactly as he should have".
Actually they asked questions which involve both counts. They also asked about supervision.
Why did Curley need to discuss it with Joe after it was handed over to him? Did he need Joe's ear or blessing? We don't even know who initiated the conversation or how many were had.
Any "expert in the field" knows he did what he was supposed to - I'll just leave it at that
What's your address again?
I forgot to make note of it - - - and I want to mail a loaded handgun to your spouse
I have loaded handguns and a carry permit. I'm ready if nutjobs show up here.
So Roxforbrains Roxine is sequestered with the jury?
Because others failed.
Because the media wanted ratings, not the truth.
He didn't, he said "with the benefit of hindsight...."
Any intelligent person knows you are wrong.
you are so transparent, take your agenda elsewhere. We don't want your crazy spin.
To be fair, retired judges (called "senior" judges) handle a lot of cases in PA.
Hopefully the "retired" Cynthia Baldwin is permanently out to pasture in Turks and Caicos, never to surface again. Unless she were to be indicted.
The more "truth" that comes out, the deeper the cover up hole gets.
Like I just said, maybe Joe was a sounding board....Curley came to Joe, someone he respected greatly. Being a human being, Joe heard him out rather than throwing him out of his office. But, after hearing him out, Joe made clear to Curley that he as coach was not going to own the decision, whatever it might be. That qualifies as "staying out of it" in my book.
Why? Is there a one nutjob limit in your household?
LOL
First, Barkley wasn't playing against OSU. Then the OL predictions. Then Graham was going to take a plea deal.
Or just "hanging out with Boccabella"
55 pages and you are making attacks on another poster off topic.
Nobody gives a shit about your attacks. Stay on topic or get off the thread.
OOOOOO I'm shakin in my boots now, Gunnie. Wanna wrassle in the Champs parking lot?
Incorrect. They are being granted access to pennlive.com.
There's a dead guy getting blamed for 98, too. It seems it's a very convenient play in these situations.
She basically got kicked off the bench after her boondoggle tour on the supreme court.
Walter,
You're a crazy old coot. Do you want to share with this board why 50 years ago (at your late father's great disappointment) you got "rejected" by PSU Admissions?
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So you just make it up and it becomes reality? My point was we don't know. You making something up doesn't make it so.
If you're a really good lawyer, you can become very wealthy. If you suck as a lawyer, you can become a judge and make other people very wealthy and rub elbows with them. Welcome to Pennsylvania.
OR the very logical explanation that they were discussing the candidates/hires for the two open assistant positions and the subject came up. Of course the HC and AD would be meeting in the midst of the hiring process.
I think this is what stuff was suggesting was a game changerThe prosecution must be in a tough spot if it's resorting to calling its own witnesses criminals. Ditka's argument was C/S/S told numerous people yet were so diabolical they watered down MM's story so they could say they told people without really telling people. They easiest way to avoid telling something is to not tell it at all. The prosecution's logic is pretty convoluted but all they need to do convince 12 people who don't know any better. Hopefully the jury remains focused on facts and not emotion.
EDIT: Did anyone even raise the question of what C/S/S hoped to gain by engaging in a conspiracy? Sure, they were worried about covering for a retired university employee.
Calling their own witnesses liars
Knew what? That Sandusky was being investigate - perhaps nothing else.
You make things up about Joe all the time, so everyone else can to. You act as if Joe should have been onmipotent while everyone else gets a pass. Your act has gotten old.
It's a totally blind guess. Maybe Tim called him because Joe told him to? Maybe Joe just wanted to know and called him. It's now to a point on this site people are making up their version of what happened. We don't know. That is the simple truth.
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