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OT: Security punches female Miami fan

She missed on the initial forehand and connected on the backhand follow. Too bad she did. Tough situation. Still. His response was pretty forceful. I wonder what type of damage he did to her with that punch? Definitely landed it flush and she seemed to go limp. A potential tort for sure.
 
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You hit a cop and you should probably expect to get jacked. I don't care if what gender you "identify " as. Hit a cop and your gonna have a headache in the AM.
 
Is alcohol served at Hard Rock Stadium during NCAA games? If so, here is another example of why it is a bad idea.
 
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You hit a cop and you should probably expect to get jacked. I don't care if what gender you "identify " as. Hit a cop and your gonna have a headache in the AM.

That is such a sad indictment of today's society. As far as I know, cops don't walk on water or crap out gold bars. At a minimum, they should be held to the same standards as regular citizens. In the real world, in a drunk woman slaps you with an open hand and you ball up your fist and knock her unconscious, you will rightly be arrested.
 
In the real world, in a drunk woman slaps you with an open hand and you ball up your fist and knock her unconscious, you will rightly be arrested.

In this day and age, it's not very pc and very presumptuous to assign a gender to the "drunk woman" in your scenario. How would you know what gender he/she identifies as? And if it was a woman, it's not very pc to treat her differently than you would a man.

I hope the sarcasm is clear here. And I hope the absurdity of 2017 pc culture is evident too.
 
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That is such a sad indictment of today's society. As far as I know, cops don't walk on water or crap out gold bars. At a minimum, they should be held to the same standards as regular citizens. In the real world, in a drunk woman slaps you with an open hand and you ball up your fist and knock her unconscious, you will rightly be arrested.

They are absolutely not held to the same standard as regular citizens.

The police in this situation are risking their own safety removing this woman. None of them want to do this and it is a potentially dangerous situation with drunk fans everywhere.

Half of the other regular citizens are chanting "Show us your boobs".

LdN
 
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That is such a sad indictment of today's society. As far as I know, cops don't walk on water or crap out gold bars. At a minimum, they should be held to the same standards as regular citizens. In the real world, in a drunk woman slaps you with an open hand and you ball up your fist and knock her unconscious, you will rightly be arrested.
Apparently it was the cop's fault that a drunk chick bitch slapped him?? And depending upon the circumstances, your final sentence could be entirely false.
 
It's an off campus stadium, so yes. And the woman was 30 years old and legal to buy and consume alcohol. If it had been a Dolphins game, would the situation have been lessened?

I don't think off campus has anything to do with selling alcohol. They sell beer at Terp games.
 
Not seeing why anyone would have a problem with what he did...
 
Not seeing why anyone would have a problem with what he did...

Never in favor of taking a swing at a cop, but she's restrained and drunk - in the military, you learn about 'minimum force necessary' to engage a target. A punch to the face certainly escalates a missed slap to the head.
 
If he had not have hit her, she would have kept swinging and trying to hit either him, or some other officer.
She's got no case....none. She was drunk and had to be removed. She got physical. He/she who gets physical first, loses.

One look at that video and her case will be tossed.
 
Never in favor of taking a swing at a cop, but she's restrained and drunk - in the military, you learn about 'minimum force necessary' to engage a target. A punch to the face certainly escalates a missed slap to the head.
She waved and missed but got him on the back swing as the cop was looking down to see where he was stepping. All he knew was he hit in the face and took action to make sure he didn't take another shot. The cop can't be expected to get hit then just stand there and let it happen again.
 
She's got no case....none. She was drunk and had to be removed. She got physical. He/she who gets physical first, loses.

One look at that video and her case will be tossed.

Probably right, but if it takes five police officers to remove a one drunk woman, you would think at a minimum they could tie her hands behind her back (or hold her arms in place).
 
She waved and missed but got him on the back swing as the cop was looking down to see where he was stepping. All he knew was he hit in the face and took action to make sure he didn't take another shot. The cop can't be expected to get hit in the face and not take action to prevent it from happening again.

I believe that is exactly what is expected.

The use of force, in the context of law enforcement, may be defined as the "amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject". She was already being compelled to leave. Do a better job of restraining her and she's not free to swing wildly. But, whatever.
 
Never in favor of taking a swing at a cop, but she's restrained and drunk - in the military, you learn about 'minimum force necessary' to engage a target. A punch to the face certainly escalates a missed slap to the head.
She was not restrained, if she had been it would not have happened. First slap was a miss. The second one connected. How many times do you think he has to let her hit him? He used the minimum force necessary to stop the attack, given the circumstances...
 
Probably right, but if it takes five police officers to remove a one drunk woman, you would think at a minimum they could tie her hands behind her back (or hold her arms in place).

I understand what you are saying but makes no difference in the case. They were pretty gentle with her and she was clearly out of it. Cuffing somebody also comes with its risks. Regardless, first one that gets physical loses. Cops can get into trouble if they use force that is uncalled for. For example, they use a gun when the person only has a stick. She threw a punch and got decked. Case closed. And it doesn't matter if its a chick or a dude. And it is especially bad when the woman is drunk.

My advice to her is to get help. She's got a problem.
 
She was not restrained, if she had been it would not have happened. First slap was a miss. The second one connected. How many times do you think he has to let her hit him? He used the minimum force necessary to stop the attack, given the circumstances...

Once, then they put her to the ground and restrain her.
 
I understand what you are saying but makes no difference in the case. They were pretty gentle with her and she was clearly out of it. Cuffing somebody also comes with its risks. Regardless, first one that gets physical loses. Cops can get into trouble if they use force that is uncalled for. For example, they use a gun when the person only has a stick. She threw a punch and got decked. Case closed. And it doesn't matter if its a chick or a dude. And it is especially bad when the woman is drunk.

My advice to her is to get help. She's got a problem.

Ok, but disagree. Can end with that.
 
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Ok, but disagree. Can end with that.
Fair enough. I also draw the distinction between the court of law and the court of public opinion.

I may be more sympathetic if it is a young kid. 30 year old woman being drunk to the gills and being disruptive? Not a lot of sympathy.
 
She's got no case....none. She was drunk and had to be removed. She got physical. He/she who gets physical first, loses.

One look at that video and her case will be tossed.
I'm not an attorney, and not on the woman's side. She is responsible for her own behavior . But I could definitely see an attorney saying excessive force, and the woman complaining of headaches, concussion syndrome, etc. and taking home some bank. Can the cop come here and be a moderator and clean up the ND and Mizzou posters, since our boys are asleep at the keyboard ?
 
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Fair enough. I also draw the distinction between the court of law and the court of public opinion.

I may be more sympathetic if it is a young kid. 30 year old woman being drunk to the gills and being disruptive? Not a lot of sympathy.

His response is the same as that Oklahoma RB Mixon who KO'd a woman who 'slapped' him and who posed zero if any threat - her punch/slap landing or not. Police have tough jobs, but are and should be held to a higher standard than some punk kid. Super drunk people are rarely a threat unless a firearm is near.
 
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Once, then they put her to the ground and restrain her.
The ground in this case was steep steps and a railing. If it was an ideal situation, or even a manageable one she would have already been in cuffs, preventing the original swings.
 
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