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OT: Security punches female Miami fan

Saying to never hit a woman is ridiculous but, I can say without hesitation, that you never ball up your fist and knock out a woman because she hit you with an open hand slap. Try that in front of any cop, and you are getting arrested. Try that in front of any decent man and you'll be eating a fist.
So when did it become okay for a woman to slap a man? Neither should be hitting the other.
 
What if his punch to the head knocked her out and into a coma? Cops are paid for a job and not to use excessive force. They are suppose to deescalate the situation. This drunk barely touched the officer and posed no threat. He punched her out of anger. Not to control her. She was like a wet noodle.

This is what they are trained for and what they signed up for. Nobody forced them to sign up. Most are good but some are in it for the power and abuse their position. Ion the past they got away with it no cameras and easily covered up by colleagues. The abuse is being uncovered by cell phones. Like yesterday the officer that got 20 years for murdering a suspect running away. Shot dead because the officer didn’t want to chase him down. Easier just to kill him. Unfortunately for him someone filmed his murder. He tried to use the same lame excuse they all use “I was afraid for my life”. Pathetic but it always works for officers when there is no tape.
If she would have gone quietly with them she wouldn't have gotten hit. But let's continue to blame others.
 
If she would have gone quietly with them she wouldn't have gotten hit. But let's
If she would have gone quietly with them she wouldn't have gotten hit. But let's continue to blame others.
You totally missed my point. The drunk was not in the right. She was rightfully heading to jail and being charged. You, However tried to make it seem as though I was “ blaming others.” Bizarre
Bottom line, you didn’t address any point that I made other than to say if everyone behaved police wouldn’t have to abuse people. Ok
 
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You totally missed my point. The drunk was not in the right. She was rightfully heading to jail and being charged. You, However tried to make it seem as though I was “ blaming others.” Bizarre
Bottom line, you didn’t address any point that I made other than to say if everyone behaved police wouldn’t have to abuse people. Ok
My point was that people need to take responsibility for what they do. You don't want to get hit by a cop, don't take a swing at one. You don't want to get shot for running from a cop, don't run. It's easy to avoid bad things happening to you by doing what you're supposed to do. I've never been beat up by a cop, or shot by a cop, or suffered any police brutality at all because I don't do illegal shit and if I did and decided to fight or run, then whatever happens to me is on me and not someone else.
 
Looking at your other posts, I would say you might want to steer that question inward.

I asked because your post made zero sense. Nobody said, implied or intimated that it is acceptable for a woman to hit a man. Do you believe it is acceptable for a man to punch a woman in the face if she slaps him first?
 
Got no problem with that. Cops are human and deal with idiots much of the time. He reacted. You'd think 4 of them could've subdued and cuffed her. But these guys have a right to protect themselves.

Mixon was a one-off (hopefully) and inexcusable.

I expect cops in Miami (or any big city) deal with idiots all day every day. The time they assume someone is not a real threat might be the time they don't get to go home.
 
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I asked because your post made zero sense. Nobody said, implied or intimated that it is acceptable for a woman to hit a man. Do you believe it is acceptable for a man to punch a woman in the face if she slaps him first?
I think it depends on a lot of factors and the situation in which it occurs. For the most part I would say no, but there are situations where I would say it's acceptable. There's not a black and white answer.
 
Here's to the policeman. Nothing happens if the person isn't drunk or aggressive after getting drunk. Proportionality is the same ridiculous logic in other forms of conflict, without mentioning them. The incivility of the day is due ........ I hope you all can fill in the blanks.
 
I asked because your post made zero sense. Nobody said, implied or intimated that it is acceptable for a woman to hit a man. Do you believe it is acceptable for a man to punch a woman in the face if she slaps him first?

I don't think it's fair to compare Joe Mixon (or Joe boyfriend) to a cop. I don't think it's man/woman so much as cop/perp. I'd hate to know the number of cops killed by people they deemed not a threat. Maybe the cop wishes he had this one back (maybe he doesn't). But he doesn't deserve to be vilified for it.
 
I don't think it's fair to compare Joe Mixon (or Joe boyfriend) to a cop. I don't think it's man/woman so much as cop/perp. I'd hate to know the number of cops killed by people they deemed not a threat. Maybe the cop wishes he had this one back (maybe he doesn't). But he doesn't deserve to be vilified for it.

The ratio of people killed by cops vs cops killed by people is not quite 10 to 1. The number of police killed on duty runs around 125 every year. The vast vast majority of them occurring in situations where there is a known danger.
 
My point was that people need to take responsibility for what they do. You don't want to get hit by a cop, don't take a swing at one. You don't want to get shot for running from a cop, don't run. It's easy to avoid bad things happening to you by doing what you're supposed to do. I've never been beat up by a cop, or shot by a cop, or suffered any police brutality at all because I don't do illegal shit and if I did and decided to fight or run, then whatever happens to me is on me and not someone else.
I understand what you are saying, it's just that every society has crime. Law enforcement needs to weed out bad officers. I just viewed (a few minutes ago) the news on TV and they showed another very disturbing video of a police officer killing a frightened young white man crawling (per the officers instructions) towards him, crying and begging the officer not to shoot him. The officer was extremely threatening and yelling at the young man that any wrong move and he was going to die. Of course he ended up shooting the young man and killing him for no reason. The man was a pest control worker and he had pellet guns (not on his person, but in his room). The officer was acquitted. Extremely disturbing to watch. The Officer was fired though and there is a wrongful death lawsuit filed. Anyone could see this poor guy was frightened to death (no pun intended) and not a threat. The officer was itching to fire his weapon. It was obvious by his threatening tone and words. Look it up if you get a chance. It was on CBS National News.
 
I'm on the fence on this one. Part me says the officer overreacted, the other part me says what level of force would have been acceptable? These are high stress no win situations for police.
 
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No this is as justifiable. And it was not brutality. But I guess stupid people like you can't discern the difference.
The girl was stupid but the situation was contained. She was on the shoulders of several officers. This cop was not trying to mitigate any risk she posed. He was mad and punched her (hard) in retaliation.. Be careful who you call stupid
 
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The girl was stupid but the situation was contained. She was on the shoulders of several officers. This cop was not trying to mitigate any risk she posed. He was mad and punched her (hard) in retaliation.. Be careful who you call stupid
I have law enforcement members in my family, and also as friends. I. E. am a supporter. That being said this is unacceptable. The woman was clearly impared. Likely alcohol, but what if there were other factors? Reaction to meds, mental illness, spiked drink, etc. four officers vs one female. Instead of taking the time to get her under control and cuff her for her own safety and others, they hoist her over their heads and let her arms and legs free to strike them or bystanders? there are viable methods for four well equipped trained officers to control her in place, then remove her. once she was in the air she predictably lashed out and hits an officer with the force of a tissue hitting the floor, and he cold cocks her. Where were these guys trained in an MMA gym? Not a good look for law enforcement.
 
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The ratio of people killed by cops vs cops killed by people is not quite 10 to 1. The number of police killed on duty runs around 125 every year. The vast vast majority of them occurring in situations where there is a known danger.

Thanks.

Wonder what the statistic is on people who comprehend rhetoric. Take your time.
 
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