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OT: The Walking Dead Season Finale *SPOILERS*

wbcincy

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Eh. I think I'm about done with the show. I'll still watch because I'm pot committed at this point, but I'm no longer excited by it the way I once was. I don't blame them, it borders on impossible to keep a single overlying story arch new and interesting for 7 seasons. Eventually everything becomes stale, and what you're left with to keep it fresh is absurd. And so goes The Walking Dead.

First, the garbage people. This was stupid from the start. This for me was the point when the show stopped being about how normal people would adapt in a world with a zombie apocalypse, and into a comic book with absurd characters. It came close enough w/ the Kingdom, but these people took it. There was no semblance of reality in who they were or who they were led by. It was just comic book stuff. And of course I get this is all based on a graphic novel, but for many seasons it was able to keep a feel of reality (you know, minus the zombies). Once you stop showing us how real people would deal with this insane situation, and start giving us comic book characters and civilizations, you're going to lose a large crowd.

Which brings me to...why would they have ever trusted them to be on their side? They had absolutely nothing on the line. You just happened across them, but now you trust them fully? All the groups they've come across that were evil, and how slow to trust anyone theyve been as a result, but they meet these folks once and tell them their whole plan?? Nonsense. It'd be one thing if they absolutely needed them, and everything was futile without them, but the fact that they were able to beat back Negan not only without them, but also having to fight against them TOO, shows how unnecessary they were. So you trusted a group you knew nothing about, based on nothing, and with no necessity...neat.

Stop forcing Maggie on me. It was like suddenly one episode last year they just said, "hey, Maggie is an awesome leader and everyone looks to her," and I was just supposed to accept it. It came from nowhere, they just said it and I'm supposed to say ok. They just forced it so badly, and they knew it wasn't natural, so they had to tell you how difficult a decision she was making all the time, and how everyone was looking to her. Why were they looking to her all the sudden? Who knows, because the show said so.

Negan carries on. Awesome, the Kingdom and Hilltop show up, but nobody gets in the way of the exit. Yawn. And Negan would IMMEDIATELY grab an army and return. They still have them outnumbered by a mile. He wouldnt give them time to recover and prepare. Makes no sense.

The show now is this:
Season premiere - exciting start, whoa I wonder what will happen?
Episodes 2-15 - nothing much happens.
Season finale - some resolution to issue present in season premiere.

Sorry for ranting so long, but the show has gone off the rails for me. Nobody acts rationally anymore, the character changes are completely forced, new characters and civilizations aren't real people at all anymore, and the show slogs along for 14 of 16 episodes per season now.

I predict a huge viewership dropoff next season.
 
I dropped off awhile ago, because the writing on the show was so poor. There are too many good TV shows on now to bother with a show like TWD that has no respect for its audience. But it is still fun to read the reviews of the show on the AV Club and particularly the comments below the reviews. Quite amusing.

You will be glad you stopped watching, wbcincy. And I am willing to bet that you won't miss it at all.
 
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Same here. I lost all interest about a season or two back. As NewEra stated, you won't even miss watching it. I hear coworkers recounting the events on Monday mornings. They're always looking forward to what may potentially happen in a future episode, since it seems like the story moves at a snail's pace, and the payoff is generally underwhelming.
 
I still like the show and to a few of your points.....

The Hilltop and Kingdom basically said they were not interested in fighting with them, so Rick became desperate and trusted someone who obviously they should not have. The garbage people are not even in the comics as they are a TV only group. Once the Kingdom and Hilltop became engaged they had the initial advantage as Negan was getting intel from the Garbage people who told him those communities were not going to help Ricks group. Remember Negans comment to Sasha last week about hearing something about Rick starting some problems.....well now we know this came from the garbage people, at least that is my take.

It still is a comic book show...so I just enjoy it for what it is and don't really think about things too deeply or you will go off the rails as it is all fantasy and so many things would not be possible in this world.
 
Same crap over and over again but my wife and son continue to watch...
 
I enjoyed the episode. bunch of fighters!!

there were actually several seminal moments from the comic books that I enjoyed seeing . . . although the tower fight was between Andrea and one of Negan's men.
 
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Also trying to remember the name of the character in the comic book who "turned" . . . IIRC, she was bit during the first assault on the Sanctuary, and only Negan knew she had turned. So when he came back to Alexandria to confront Rick, he offered to return her unharmed, with a sack over her head.
 
Its a TV show from a comic book.. I'm not looking for reality just some entertainment

And I get that and I try to treat it that way. I just don't care for lazy or uncreative writing that cant entertain without having to have its characters make completely illogical decisions in order to create the conflict.

Also I think what most people like about it was seeing how normal people would react and survive in a world that's completely fallen apart. I think they'll lose a lot of viewers with it having stopped really being that, and just becomes comic book characters and civilizations rather than "real" people.
 
I still like the show and to a few of your points.....

The Hilltop and Kingdom basically said they were not interested in fighting with them, so Rick became desperate and trusted someone who obviously they should not have. The garbage people are not even in the comics as they are a TV only group. Once the Kingdom and Hilltop became engaged they had the initial advantage as Negan was getting intel from the Garbage people who told him those communities were not going to help Ricks group. Remember Negans comment to Sasha last week about hearing something about Rick starting some problems.....well now we know this came from the garbage people, at least that is my take.

It still is a comic book show...so I just enjoy it for what it is and don't really think about things too deeply or you will go off the rails as it is all fantasy and so many things would not be possible in this world.

Good points on why he turned to the garbage people.

And I'll keep trying to just be entertained, just tough when your intelligence is insulted. Like when Sasha decides to just go in through the fence at the sanctuary alone to try to kill Negan...just illogical nonsense. The writers couldn't come up with a creative way to have her fall into their hands, they had to force a nonsensical, illogical decision by her instead? I know I should relax about it, I just cant.
 
I also liked how the show circled back to the first episode, and the emotional importance of Glenn to the future of this world.

Sometimes we forget that Glenn saved Rick from a certain death. "This" world only exists because of Glenn's heroic decision.
 
If this show went on an extended hiatus, would people pick back up and watch again? Maybe dedicated fans, but this show is week in and week out of getting nowhere. At least Better Call Saul & Fargo are on the horizon. I also cannot get into The Americans. To me, another boring show, not compelling at all.
 
If you can't suspend disbelief on a lot of stuff, you can't enjoy a show like this one. I try not to pick at it's flaws too much and just enjoy it for what it is.
 
If you can't suspend disbelief on a lot of stuff, you can't enjoy a show like this one. I try not to pick at it's flaws too much and just enjoy it for what it is.

Well, if you like the comic book genre, shows like Legion and the Netflix shows (Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones) are much better written, directed, edited, and acted. Those shows hold some entertainment value--particularly Legion. Plus, those shows are trying to say something about larger themes, albeit via a comic-book genre. TWD is just such a crapfest on all accounts that it ceased to be entertaining a long while ago for me. So I stopped watching. I don't begrudge anyone else who still watches the show.
 
Well, if you like the comic book genre, shows like Legion and the Netflix shows (Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones) are much better written, directed, edited, and acted. Those shows hold some entertainment value--particularly Legion. Plus, those shows are trying to say something about larger themes, albeit via a comic-book genre. TWD is just such a crapfest on all accounts that it ceased to be entertaining a long while ago for me. So I stopped watching. I don't begrudge anyone else who still watches the show.

I still watch it but don't like it as much as I used to. I also will pick up the comic if I see at my library but I really lost interest in it as well. I think the last one I read was the death of one of the Whisperer's.
I really disliked the way the comic dealt with Negan and hope the TV show doesn't go the same route.

I loved the Netflix Daredevil, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones) series. I just finished up Iron Fist and while I liked it I thought it felt rushed and the story line wasn't as strong as it should have and could have been. My feeling is they wanted it out there so they could get The Defender's series going.

Legion,... wow it was a labor to get through but man is the payoff worth it.
 
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I'm with you. The tiger scene was the moment for me. I can suspend disbelief to some extent, but come on. I agree. The interest for me is in how normal people deal with the apocalypse. The people are getting more and more far fetched and the acting is getting weaker (not that it was that great to start).
 
I found the episode quite satisfying.

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I still watch, but do other things while I watch which I would never do with a show like GOT or Breaking Bad. I feel like I wasted so much time I may as well keep wasting my time. For the love of God please kill off Carl or get rid of his damn hat!
 
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The show used to be exciting because you never knew who was going to get killed, main character or not. Now you don't know who's going to get killed but you know who's not...none of the main characters can be killed. And hardly anyone dies anymore and the zombies aren't even a threat anymore...it's now just about which group of people can out evil the others.
 
I loved seasons 1-6, but this season is a disaster, and I told my wife I don't plan on watching anymore. The writers have become terribly lazy, and at this point, zombies aren't that much of a threat yet they try to make every scene involving a zombie into a scary thrilling will somebody die scene and it is just more of a nuisance to me.

Negan is not a convincing villan...at least as played in this season. His right hand man Simon is much more convincing as a villand someone evil people could rally around.

The garbage people are just the worst. How the hell did they come to speak like that? One podcast i listened to said that the show must be employing out of work Star Trek The NExt Generation writers since they look like rip-offs of the Romulans.

FOr 16 episodes, not much happened except we met 3 new groups, a few people died, and there will be a new war...which was obvious towards the end of season 6.
 
"Getting jumped by the tiger" is the new "Jumping the shark".

This show better save itself early next season, or I'll be done with it.
 
Not a fan, wife is and once in a blue moon I got stuck watching this. I watched what I believed at the time to have been this season's premier. The next time I watched was the season finale. Did not appear to be much plot progression as the main good guy is still crying a lot and getting his literal and metaphorical rear handed to him by everyone and the main bad guy is an evil mastermind, except for when he's conveniently not in order for the plot to advance. On a positive note, they must have gotten ride of the zombies because now tigers run around and bite your head off. I guess that is an improvement in this post-apocalyptic world? I also noticed that everyone is a terrible shot even with unlimited ammo at close range and no body armor.
 
Feel r the past few seasons I've watched the season premiere and the season finale. For all the middle episodes I just ask my wife what happened on Monday morning.
 
Also trying to remember the name of the character in the comic book who "turned" . . . IIRC, she was bit during the first assault on the Sanctuary, and only Negan knew she had turned. So when he came back to Alexandria to confront Rick, he offered to return her unharmed, with a sack over her head.
Holly is the character from the comics...she is not in the tv show
 
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