PA HS Wrestling thread
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The kid Teag beat in the finals Cael Smith is no slouch. He won keystone states a couple of years back. Not sure what happened, but Cael stayed down for a while after the match. My back was turned because one of my wrestlers was walking to the podium
My son worked extremely hard for you to call him extremely weak and boring… you must have some great credentials to make some of these comments about high schoolers.
Double A would handle triple A with ease this year in an all star match. The Catholic schools are a force right now. Hard to imagine what the small school kid who only wrestles in the winter thinks at sections
AA will have better state champs but AAA is going to have better guys miss the podium most likely. AA is really good this year while AAA is really down due to injuries and other stuff
here is how I would guess a potential All Star Match (state champ vs state champ) would go. AA probably wins big if the toss ups go 50-50
107-Toss
114-Toss
121- AA
127- Toss
133-AA
139- Toss
145-AA
152-Toss
160-Toss
172- AAA
189- AA
215- AA
285-AAA
Not so sure "with ease" except for AA having greater bonus potential. I'd have it as 7-4 with 2 toss-ups. And one AA weight flips if Sudun is healthy.
But it's the usual argument: either side could win champ vs champ in a given year. Hold a 40-man bracket with all qualifiers, and AAA gets more medalists.
Bingo, and the nature of the beast. The state placewinners in AAA will always come out of a bigger pond unless and until PA moves to making about the biggest 25% of schools AAA and the rest AA.
I don't think he called any kid weak or boring. He called some weight classes weak and boring. I have two sons currently wrestling in PA. If they are wrestling at a high level and you don't wanna hear shit talked about them, stay off the internet, especially Facebook lol. This was tame and not directed at anyone.
I mean I guess I don’t know how else I’d take it then. Unfortunately it’s not just on the internet. All you have to do is look at what just happened out in Jersey. Also, as a coach for the past ten years I can tell you that it has gotten progressively worse from parents and even other coaches. I could fill a small book with things just from the past two weeks. While you may feel it’s tame, it’s idiots like this that yell dumb crap from the stands or the side of the mat.
Yeah, if they are in the bracket they will be talked about both good and bad. Enjoy the fame.
Does it get worse every year than this from 2016?
High school wrestling championship fiasco explained: CD vs. CV
For those confused about what exactly transpired at the Central Dauphin vs. Cumberland Valley wrestling championship match on Saturday, here's a quick explainer.
It sure does. A Virginia kid took a dive at the request of his coach to stop a kid from being a 4Xer. So ridiculous. The only two people that will ever respect that kid are himself and his Coach. Am sure deep down even his parents are ashamed.
I ran the youth travel basketball league in Bangor School District area kids for almost 3 years from 2005-2007. I had 24 travel teams involving 240 kids.Plus an instructional beginner weekend camp involving 1st and 2nd graders. All parents had my land line house phone number.
Almost daily I would get a complaint from parents. 90% of calls were total BS. Examples;
"The old gym is to cold on Saturday morning" (Dress your child warmer) ,"The coach is not bringing a snack for end of practice"(You and the other parents can take turns if snacks are wanted).
I learned that the best response on the nuisance complaints was, " It's not a mandate that your child plays basketball". That normally stopped the bitching.
I can't imagine what it's like now .
Almost daily I would get a complaint from parents. 90% of calls were total BS. Examples;
"The old gym is to cold on Saturday morning" (Dress your child warmer) ,"The coach is not bringing a snack for end of practice"(You and the other parents can take turns if snacks are wanted).
I learned that the best response on the nuisance complaints was, " It's not a mandate that your child plays basketball". That normally stopped the bitching.
I can't imagine what it's like now .
To follow up on how parents have created a problem in youth sports. No one wants to get involved in officiating anymore.
Before I had hip replacement, I would ref youth basketball. I was in my 50s and wasn't going to be intimidated by parents and coaches. But when I would do a game with a younger person breaking in as a ref , a lot of them would get upset at the actions of coaches and parents .
They would decide reffing isn't for them.
The PIAA is having a terrible time getting officials. Watch the PA State football playoffs. Most of the officials are banking their Social Security money and officiating for beer money .
Before I had hip replacement, I would ref youth basketball. I was in my 50s and wasn't going to be intimidated by parents and coaches. But when I would do a game with a younger person breaking in as a ref , a lot of them would get upset at the actions of coaches and parents .
They would decide reffing isn't for them.
The PIAA is having a terrible time getting officials. Watch the PA State football playoffs. Most of the officials are banking their Social Security money and officiating for beer money .
Wow. So I gave an honest assessment of the regional tournament. Where is your take? Oh right you just wanna take one little part out of it and twist it and make it sound like a personal attack. I never personally attacked your son but you made it about him. In fact YOU are the only one making it personal and calling me and idiot. What a hypocrite you are. I gave an honest run down and stand by what I said. So every weight was equal with talent and depth? Every weight was exciting? I guess everyone should get a trophy? Do you even read this forum? Every day people give opinions. Could you imagine if everyone got butt hurt and responded back to every message? Wow every single opponent of a psu kid, and opposing coaches, and opposing fans and posters on other forums would be responding back and going crazy for actually discussing wrestling.
It was Freddy in a Friday night match. He rolled on his way to being mat returned and landed hard on the back of his skull/neck. It was gnarly.
I saw a video. Kid got his arm wrenched in the semis. Looked like a hammer lock gone wild. They called PD then gave a penalty for unnecessary roughness. He looked hurt but I couldn't say whether he could have continued, although he wrestled in the finals and won.
After, the coach was tried to get the crowd amped up to cheer for him. Had he been carried off in a stretcher it might have been appropriate, but as it was he looked like a horses arse.
I was at this one right behind the scorers table. It was hysterical and pathetic in equal measure.Does it get worse every year than this from 2016?
High school wrestling championship fiasco explained: CD vs. CV
For those confused about what exactly transpired at the Central Dauphin vs. Cumberland Valley wrestling championship match on Saturday, here's a quick explainer.www.pennlive.com
AA States underway
McCort and Faith Christian Academy each with 10 wrestlers into quarterfinals
McCort and Faith Christian Academy each with 10 wrestlers into quarterfinals
Are the girls quarters tonight?
Nevermind, I see the boys warming up. 11:20 tomorrow morning for girls quarters I think
Nevermind, I see the boys warming up. 11:20 tomorrow morning for girls quarters I think
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Can we talk about how absurd it is to have AA quarters at 8 AM? I get that things are tough because they merged girls as well but 8 AM is a ridiculous start to a round when you consider weight cuts and weigh ins and warmups. Then they have to be back at 7.
A kid is going to wrestling at 8AM and 10:30pm tomorrow. Asinine
I’ve never been to States. How many mats are used during these early rounds? I would assume 8. Is there another venue in the state that could accommodate more mats as well as the fans?
I don't remember how many mats were used yesterday, but today there are only 6 mats being used. 3 of the mats have quarterfinal matches & 3 are being used for consi matches.
More than once when a group of us would stay at truck stop in mid 1980s&90s we would pull an all nighter. The 7 other guys were from Pen Argyl and Easton so we would try to catch all the AA & AAA sessions. I remember one night being in a bar with a band playing and the drummer did a "Whipeout" solo. No one is on the dance floor and a good friend of mine who was probably on his 2nd handle of vodka gets up and dances to the beating drum in convulsion like movement.🤨. I'm pretty certain it was 1992, the year Kolat won his 4th. My buddies left between sessions and I slept in the Old Arena before the Finals .
Couldn't even consider that now. Good times.
If # mats are really an issue, then PIAA could always go back to 16 qualifiers.
It's more than a little silly for SW AA to get 7 qualifiers. For example.
But not really exactly like AAA Saturdays of the past, right? This is an hour earlier start and a 2+ hour later finish. It also involves a much larger number of kids.
They also didn’t then need to make weight the following day.
Yes, appears to be one of most competitive brackets in AA.
Deputy over Detar in the Q-finals.
Rothermel now the favorite?
Had Rothermel as the favorite either way the way he’s looked in recent weeks but definitely now. But Botero and Deputy are both remarkably stingy.
A good attorney would've already filed for a restraining order.
Ironically, had Knox been DQd from the tournament it would’ve been far easier to keep him out
Muyleart looked awesome in his quartet. Thrashed Reef Dillard.
