Pa Supreme Court unseals documents AG Kathleen Kane sought to make public
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bwifan
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This is awesome. More transparency please. SHED THE LIGHT
bwifan
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hmmm... horrific news story today that the media is covering non stop and rightfully so and truly affected by and the court today says unseal all the records... the conspiracy theorist would say..... 
Glass houses. How many of you are downloading this stuff on your work computers so that you can bitch at others for having it on their work computers?
I don't! You are a moron if you don't realize that most employers track EVERY keystroke of their employees.
Are you that dense?? The major criticism of the porndogs is they were swapping obscene emails on the public dime on government hardware. Is that a wise use of tax dollars?? If someone does the same thing while working for a private company I wouldn't care. The private company can deal with it as they see fit unless, of course, there was criminal activity involved.
Some of this stuff is incredible.
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/st...st-Attorney-General-Kane/stories/201508260203
Any chance Zwick is on that chain somewhere?
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/st...st-Attorney-General-Kane/stories/201508260203
Any chance Zwick is on that chain somewhere?
Wouldn't be surprised if there is a real snuff film or beastiality pictures in the trove. Debauchery at its finest.
Those guys should all be fired....ASAP. No excuses. If you received such emails, that is kind of OK, but if sent or forwarded them, you are (and should be) toast.
Waiting for Sully to come on and tell us who "it was not a good day for" today.
Well, unless the released info today includes the names of those sending/ receiving this stuff then it's neutral and not a good/ bad day for anyone. It will be a footnote as journalists focus all their attention on the 2 journalists killed in Virginia today.
To take that a step farther, while simply receiving them may at first be somewhat excusable, the question would become what the recipient did after receiving multiple obscene/inappropriate emails. Did they reply to the sender and say, "Stop sending me those perverted emails. I don't appreciate getting that kind of stuff"? Or did the recipient do nothing and giving the sender the impression it was OK? Anyone in a senior position should do the former and document, document, document.
Most people have but they are not going to get in any trouble unless it is child porn. That is why Kane is an idiot. MOst of the emails were harmless and nothing illegal.
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/st...st-Attorney-General-Kane/stories/201508260203
The article states that Fina sent on an altered nude photo of Sarah Palin. There's more from Fina. Make your own conclusions.
EDIT: The link is from Lionlurker's post earlier.
Well then....definitely a bad day for Fina.
That said, I expect the local news across PA will focus on the Virginia journalists (2 of 'their own') rather than the Fina revelation.
Actually, I'm sure most people do not have porn on their work computers. It's 2015, dude.
And it probably is quite illegal to have porn on a state computer, insofar as the state IT rules, at least.
I'm amused that you think that this kind of stuff is harmless. Dude, you are a caveman.
I forgot stocking shelves at walmart you don't have a computer.
Every place I worked, sending porn was illegal by company standards and resulted in immediate termination. Taking this a step farther, these people were on taxpayers money and it could be considered a crime.
You have some serious ethical issues if you think that it's OK for the state's top prosecutors to share rape jokes on the public dime.
I wonder how Seth Williams feels about Fina now?
Marc Costanzo - wasn't he the guy that spoke to the press after the preliminary hearing for Curley and Schultz in Decrmber 2011?
Marc Costanzo - wasn't he the guy that spoke to the press after the preliminary hearing for Curley and Schultz in Decrmber 2011?
Some of what's described is absolutely harmless.
A meme of a kid looking up a girl's skirt isn't child porn like Kane insinuated.
If there's actual sex acts in Fina's inbox he's done, period. He deserves it for being stupid enough to send them.
YOU don't get to decide what is harmless, my man.
They would have been escorted out the door immediately at the company I work for.
That and I wonder if those in her own party calling for her to step down may now have a change of heart.
This just goes to show the hypocrisy of Fina, Costanzo and the rest of Corbett's corrupt cronies...they spent all this time and God knows how many OAG resources going after Corbett's political enemies via Computergate, etc. for THEFT OF SERVICES...and as it turns out...Fina et al. were doing the very same thing via swapping porn on the state's dime. Fancy that...
There's at least one email that Fina sent with a joke about getting a girl's "consent" by duct taping her mouth shut.
If you were a rape victim who was trying to get justice in PA would that give you confidence in the OAG?
Stop making excuses for these guys.
It is one thing to look at porn at home in the privacy of your own home, on your own time.
It is another thing to be looking at porn on work time on a work computer.
It is yet another thing to be a state employee looking at porn on a state-owned computer while you are being paid with taxpayer money.
It is yet another thing to be a an employee of a law enforcement agency doing this.
And it is yet another thing to be a high ranking manager of a law enforcement agency doing this.
It is yet another thing to actually be an assistant attorney general handling sex crime cases doing this.
This is a no brainer thing. Fina should have been fired if this had been discovered while he was with the OAG. And he should promptly resign his job with the Philadelphia District Attorney's office now.
I am really offended at the moment by the weak treatment the story is getting from the Inquirer. The reporters clearly have a close relationship with Fina as a source (maybe back to when the Sandusky case broke in the first place), and that is clouding their judgment in the handling of this story. They should be pursuing this as aggressively as they have pursued all the stories Fina has fed them about his enemies.
It is another thing to be looking at porn on work time on a work computer.
It is yet another thing to be a state employee looking at porn on a state-owned computer while you are being paid with taxpayer money.
It is yet another thing to be a an employee of a law enforcement agency doing this.
And it is yet another thing to be a high ranking manager of a law enforcement agency doing this.
It is yet another thing to actually be an assistant attorney general handling sex crime cases doing this.
This is a no brainer thing. Fina should have been fired if this had been discovered while he was with the OAG. And he should promptly resign his job with the Philadelphia District Attorney's office now.
I am really offended at the moment by the weak treatment the story is getting from the Inquirer. The reporters clearly have a close relationship with Fina as a source (maybe back to when the Sandusky case broke in the first place), and that is clouding their judgment in the handling of this story. They should be pursuing this as aggressively as they have pursued all the stories Fina has fed them about his enemies.
Illegal by company standards? Companies don't make laws. The porn is more likely not illegal and simply against company policy.
When is Kane going to charge her staff who sent porn?
as an IT professional, I can assure you not only do we block outgoing attempts to access porn, we aggressively filter any incoming porn, and scan internal emails across the server. unless someone hacked your laptop, even just RECEIVING porn at your work email is grounds for termination.
crikey, we were laughing about all the dumb ass hats who set up Ashley Madison accounts with their WORK EMAILS. say buh bye.
It also brings to light their lack of credibility and to what lengths they'll go to serve their self interests. If Kane's assertions are true, you'd think that would open some eyes as to how the Sandusky affair was handled in regard to C/S/S. It should, but it won't. The media will not even attempt to make that connection.
Amen. Only in Pennsylvania would the press corp think that it's not a big deal for a top prosecutor to be sharing this kind of stuff. If PA is a cesspool it's because the PA press is a lousy watchdog.
She'll have plenty of time to think about it, because nobody is going to make her resign now.
Reporter says emails are VERY GRAPHIC.
From a PPG article:
"For years, Fina and Costanzo had viewed and distributed pornographic, misogynistic, racist, obscene and offensive emails using their state-owned computers. Attorney General Kane had uncovered those emails, and was set to release them to the public. Faced with their imminent personal and professional disgrace and desperate to keep their wrongdoing secret, Fina and Costanzo devised a plot to block their obscene emails from being released to the public.
“They triggered this grand jury investigation, they made materially misleading statements to the court to obtain a protective order, and through their scheming they avoided public exposure," the filing alleged.
"The grand jury proceeding and the related protective order are now preventing Attorney General Kane from investigating and potentially prosecuting Fina and Costanzo. As a result, these two men — peddlers of pornography and obscenity depositing state paychecks — are allowed to maintain their positions as Assistant District Attorneys in the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office," it said.
It described several of the emails, including:
• "An email forwarded by Fina attaching altered nude photographs purporting to be of former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin."
• "An email received by Costanzo with the subject 'Hot Ghetto Mess!' containing race- and class-based discriminatory text and attaching racist photographs, including a photograph of an African American baby holding a rifle."
• "An email received by Fina and Costanza with the subject 'Men in Training' attaching photographs depicting, among other things, a young boy looking into the underwear of a young girl."
• "An email received by Fina and Costanzo attaching an altered nude photograph purporting to be of President Barack Obama and former First Lady Hillary Clinton."
Images allegedly sent by Mr. Fina also included several of women performing sex acts, with a email subject line of "New Office Motivation Policy Posters."
Another image sent from Mr. Fina’s account, a photo titled "Bravery At Its Finest," shows a white man wrestling a bucket of fried chicken from two African-American men.
One showing two apparently stoned young men is titled, "Drugs. Doing nothing has never been so amazing."
Another shows a child with a dart stuck in his forehead. The title: "Parenting. Next time he will get you a beer faster."
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Ouch!! To me it sounds like Fina/Costanzo are a bunch of racist misogynistic a-holes. The fact that these guys were working as prosecutors should outrage EVERYONE.
"For years, Fina and Costanzo had viewed and distributed pornographic, misogynistic, racist, obscene and offensive emails using their state-owned computers. Attorney General Kane had uncovered those emails, and was set to release them to the public. Faced with their imminent personal and professional disgrace and desperate to keep their wrongdoing secret, Fina and Costanzo devised a plot to block their obscene emails from being released to the public.
“They triggered this grand jury investigation, they made materially misleading statements to the court to obtain a protective order, and through their scheming they avoided public exposure," the filing alleged.
"The grand jury proceeding and the related protective order are now preventing Attorney General Kane from investigating and potentially prosecuting Fina and Costanzo. As a result, these two men — peddlers of pornography and obscenity depositing state paychecks — are allowed to maintain their positions as Assistant District Attorneys in the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office," it said.
It described several of the emails, including:
• "An email forwarded by Fina attaching altered nude photographs purporting to be of former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin."
• "An email received by Costanzo with the subject 'Hot Ghetto Mess!' containing race- and class-based discriminatory text and attaching racist photographs, including a photograph of an African American baby holding a rifle."
• "An email received by Fina and Costanza with the subject 'Men in Training' attaching photographs depicting, among other things, a young boy looking into the underwear of a young girl."
• "An email received by Fina and Costanzo attaching an altered nude photograph purporting to be of President Barack Obama and former First Lady Hillary Clinton."
Images allegedly sent by Mr. Fina also included several of women performing sex acts, with a email subject line of "New Office Motivation Policy Posters."
Another image sent from Mr. Fina’s account, a photo titled "Bravery At Its Finest," shows a white man wrestling a bucket of fried chicken from two African-American men.
One showing two apparently stoned young men is titled, "Drugs. Doing nothing has never been so amazing."
Another shows a child with a dart stuck in his forehead. The title: "Parenting. Next time he will get you a beer faster."
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Ouch!! To me it sounds like Fina/Costanzo are a bunch of racist misogynistic a-holes. The fact that these guys were working as prosecutors should outrage EVERYONE.
Fina is toast. The picture of Obama and Clinton could cause them alot of extra problems.
Prediction - Fina will not be fired. If there is enough public outrage, he may resign. But he won't be fired.
What did morality man Frank Noonan, the boss do? Did he just turn his head and look the other way?
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