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Exactly. If you are healthy, I'm told the odds are "minuscule" of dying from this silly little virus. Why then close down every school, end every sporting event and limit employment to essential services? I didn't know nursing home patients were involved in any of these activities. Simply should have locked the doors to every nursing home and let nature take its course. God help us!
 
Exactly. If you are healthy, I'm told the odds are "minuscule" of dying from this silly little virus. Why then close down every school, end every sporting event and limit employment to essential services? I didn't know nursing home patients were involved in any of these activities. Simply should have locked the doors to every nursing home and let nature take its course. God help us!

I hate U.S.
 
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Unless, of course, someone under the age of 60 who you love, happens to get the virus and die, or their health is drastically affected. Then it immediately changes our whole perspective.
Had a friend a few years ago in his 40's die from pneumonia. I guess we should have shutdown the world to make sure he survived.

There are bad outcomes everyday in life for healthy people. If anyone is afraid of the virus then they should shelter in place to save themselves and let the rest of the world go on living life. You can decide to do that.

People do not understand what this is going to do to the economy, it is going to be devastating. Many businesses will never reopen. There are going to be food shortages. If this continues into the fall, god help us.

I know how we can save 40,000 lives a year in the USA, we can ban driving automobiles.
 
Yeah there are those that think that way. Of course no one in their social circle is old fat diabetic or has other health related issues right? :rolleyes:
For the people who have high blood pressure, are obese or have type 2 diabetes, Covid should be a real wake up call to start exercising and change eating habits. After all, the experts have said we are all going to eventually get the virus...so if you have those conditions start to change because literally your life could depend on it in the next few months.
 
Exactly. If you are healthy, I'm told the odds are "minuscule" of dying from this silly little virus. Why then close down every school, end every sporting event and limit employment to essential services? I didn't know nursing home patients were involved in any of these activities. Simply should have locked the doors to every nursing home and let nature take its course. God help us!
If you put any of your loved ones in a nursing center or assisted living center, you made a decision to significantly increase the risk of killing them from communicable disease. This was even prior to COVID, and even more so now. You should close down all centers, and force their next of kin to take them in. So what if it requires them to pay $5000 a month for specialized services. Bankruptcy and their future financial health is not a question by anybody anymore. Don;t send your loved ones to a death center!
 
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If you put any of your loved ones in a nursing center or assisted living center, you made a decision to significantly increase the risk of killing them from communicable disease. This was even prior to COVID, and even more so now. You should close down all centers, and force their next of kin to take them in. So what if it requires them to pay $5000 a month for specialized services. Bankruptcy and their future financial health is not a question by anybody anymore. Don;t send your loved ones to a death center!

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
 
Eventually cooler heads will prevail and the fall semester will go off as it usually does. There are multiple strains of the virus, that eliminates a vaccine as a possibility. Bottom line, half the people who are dying are in long term care facilities where average life expectancy is 6 months. Almost all of the other people who die who at least one co-morbidity and most have multiple. If you are reasonably healthy, your chance of death from covid is miniscule.

Colleges do not allow students on campus in the Fall and they get killed financially. Room and Board are huge markups, lot of those dorms were built with borrowed money...
Unfortunately, you’re correct. Last I heard there are over 30 strains. We’re gonna have to learn to live with this one. Heard immunity is about all we have. Hopefully we find a treatment to keep case severity down.

Scientists are now finding out that far more people are infected than first thought. Which is good news. Covid-19 is far less dangerous than thought. We need to do our best to protect the vulnerable. For the rest of us, it’s time to get back to life.
 
If you read enough opinions here, it becomes easier to understand the mentality that led to the rise of HItler. I mean it is only the old and those with risk factors that are holding us down.
Sacrifice the old and infirm (Nazi's believed in eugenics and ridding themselves of those who held less value in society.)
It's sad and frightening at the same time to see the level of ignorance and chauvinism or xenophobia (New Yorker's are flooding to Pa.). Some of us were born and raised in Pa. and have lived in NY.
Hey. let's herd everyone who is over 60 and has health issues to Florida. Half of us are there anyway......and let the virus run its course. Everyone else back to normal. LOL
What an asinine post...
 
Almost all of the other people who die who at least one co-morbidity and most have multiple. If you are reasonably healthy, your chance of death from covid is miniscule.
Do you realize how many people in the US have at least one co-morbidity? Just between obesity, high blood pressure, and asthma that is more than half the population. Even reasonably healthy people are dying. So are you saying these people are expendable? I hope you don't consider yourself pro life.
 
And clearly this is turning out to be not nearly as deadly as everyone thought. With the new test in NY with people with antibodies it’s now estimated 2.7 million had the virus previously. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have symptoms. It was probably before anyone tested for it. I’ve said it numerous times I had it the beginning of February, I’ve asked for Antibody tests but no one here is doing it. So we are destroying the country for 0.2% death rate. And think about this if half are in nursing homes they’ve been wearing masks there this whole time. Cuomo was asked about this today and he didn’t have an answer...in NY they allowed positive patients from nursing homes to go back there. Wait you shut the economy down but let infected people back with at risk people. What sense does that make. Unfortunately doom sayers always win the day. Rant over.

You might want to check your numbers on the Johns Hopkins coronavirus website. Your death rate is way, way off if they are correct ( and Ill go with Johns Hopkins).
 
Do you realize how many people in the US have at least one co-morbidity? Just between obesity, high blood pressure, and asthma that is more than half the population. Even reasonably healthy people are dying. So are you saying these people are expendable? I hope you don't consider yourself pro life.

of course it is extreme obesity and asthma has been shown not to be a pre existing.

the big ones are extreme obesity(not just fat), diabetes and high blood pressure. If yiu have one of those you are self quarantine until this runs it’s course. But if you are healthy and under 50, need to get out their and start the economy plus start to develop the herd immunity.

What is your plan? Stay inside until the government saves you?
 
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Unfortunately, you’re correct. Last I heard there are over 30 strains. We’re gonna have to learn to live with this one. Heard immunity is about all we have. Hopefully we find a treatment to keep case severity down.

Scientists are now finding out that far more people are infected than first thought. Which is good news. Covid-19 is far less dangerous than thought. We need to do our best to protect the vulnerable. For the rest of us, it’s time to get back to life.
Experts are now saying it is highly unlikely that the virus can be spread outdoors in the air, wind disperses the virus, thus an individual does not get enough of a virus load to get it. Based upon that, no reason to not have football in the fall.
 
I wasn't around yet but for you old timers didn't the threat of polio loom large at all times before a vaccine was created? But people still went about their business despite the risk
 
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of course it is extreme obesity and asthma has been shown not to be a pre existing.

the big ones are extreme obesity(not just fat), diabetes and high blood pressure. If yiu have one of those you are self quarantine until this runs it’s course. But if you are healthy and under 50, need to get out their and start the economy plus start to develop the herd immunity.

What is your plan? Stay inside until the government saves you?
Don’t forget to add cancer to your list. There are a lot of folks of all ages who have leukemia or breast cancer for example who would be at extreme risk. While your at it, might as well put AFIB on the list as well.
 
COVID victims are disproportionately black as well. But it is a phucking fallacy that this is only an old folks disease. Note the latest data that some people in their 40s and 50s are suffering severe COVID related strokes. It’s a horrible disease. But hey, cooler heads will prevail.
what does sandy think?
 
I wasn't around yet but for you old timers didn't the threat of polio loom large at all times before a vaccine was created? But people still went about their business despite the risk

I recall kids with leg braces & crutches, and I also remember the entire school lining up for the vaccination. No fear, no shutting down the economy. We were too busy practicing crawling under our desks in the event of a nuclear attack :)
 
Experts are now saying it is highly unlikely that the virus can be spread outdoors in the air, wind disperses the virus, thus an individual does not get enough of a virus load to get it. Based upon that, no reason to not have football in the fall.
what experts?
 
Holy F people, way to take topic off track.

Will be interesting to see if students are back on campus for fall and what will enrollment be compared to normal. Economic impacts to UP and area will be felt for sometime.
 
For the people who have high blood pressure, are obese or have type 2 diabetes, Covid should be a real wake up call to start exercising and change eating habits. After all, the experts have said we are all going to eventually get the virus...so if you have those conditions start to change because literally your life could depend on it in the next few months.
I know it won’t happen but a serious discussion about public health in our society is desperately needed after this event has run its course. And I don’t mean infectious disease control but diet and exercise to bring our population into a Better state of overall health and try to reduce these comorbidities.
 
So half the people dying are in long term facilities? So the risk of death is minuscule??? I think that better describes your knowledge of this pandemic.
Just out of curiosity, what did he say about COVID 19 that is provably incorrect? It is true, isn’t it, that the vast majority of deaths have involved nursing home residents, the otherwise elderly and patients with significant co-morbidities such as pre-existing heart or respiratory disease? Have there been exceptions, sure. But, worldwide, relatively few younger, healthier people have failed to recover. That isn’t spin or propaganda. Just about anything you read or watch on tv will bear that out.
 
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Just out of curiosity, what did he say about COVID 19 that is provably incorrect? It is true, isn’t it, that the vast majority of deaths have involved nursing home residents, the otherwise elderly and patients with significant co-morbidities such as pre-existing heart or respiratory disease? Have there been exceptions, sure. But, worldwide, relatively few younger, healthier people have failed to recover. That isn’t spin or propaganda. Just about anything you read or watch on tv will bear that out.
First of all a "majority" is more than half the total. Are we saying that more than half the deaths attributed to this virus are/were nursing home residents?
Next, are we suggesting that folks who are diabetic,have heart disease, hypertension or asthma are expendable? How about cancer patients, who have weakened immune systems? Care to take a stab at what percentage of the work force has one of those health issues?
Of course the elderly and those with pre existing conditions are more likely to succumb than a younger person in perfect health. There are also statistics that suggest that the underprivileged are a disproportionate percentage of the deaths.
So open the schools and prohibit teachers, administrators and support staff that have any of the above from working. Let's keep home kids that have asthma, diabetes or are obese. In fact let's put them back in their classrooms with 30 other kids. That's a great plan. We can see how the failure to follow social distancing has impacted the meat processing industry. But perhaps only 10% of those infected will die? What the hell, right?
Again, the entire nation has been shut down based on the advice of ranking medical experts, federal, state and local. But once again, we have brilliant folks who post here who know better. Silly me, I thought we only attracted elite football experts. Carry on!
 
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I shared this before. Have a team of 54 with ages ranging from mid-20s to mid-60s. all of them are very concerned about the health of themselves and their families. All of them are terrified of the economic impact this is having and will have on them if economy continues to be shuttered as much as it is.

No one wants anyone to die but we have to start opening things back up, set some ground rules for businesses, and have strong consequences for those that don’t follow guidelines. There was no need to make so many small businesses shutter. You can go into a store that has a couple hundred people in it, but a small biz owner (non-food) cannot restrict access to just 4-5 customers at a time?

No doubt these politicians never expected to have to make such decisions, however some of them have made some pretty shitty ones.

This sucks for everyone but we need to get things going again, some risks are gong to have to be taken.
 
Chancellor, top Pitt leaders pledge portion of earnings to university

In a move that could set a standard across colleges facing financial shortfalls due to the coronavirus, University of Pittsburgh Chancellor Patrick Gallagher and eight Pitt senior vice chancellors Friday pledged a portion of their salaries to the university.

Their pledges -- Gallagher promised to commit 20% of his salary for 2020-21, while his senior vice chancellors each pledged 10% of theirs -- will add about $500,000 to Pitt coffers. Gallagher's 2020 base salary is just under $670,000. His 20% pledge alone comes out to about $133,000.

The executives designated their pledges to support students and the university community.

"I am honored to join my senior leadership team in giving back to the University of Pittsburgh and our students," Gallagher said, announcing the pledges. "In the face of this unprecedented crisis, we continue to respond in true Panther form: as a community."

Eva Tansky Blum, chair of Pitt's Board of Trustees said the move reflects a genuine commitment to Pitt.

"The University Trustees applaud the remarkable way the Chancellor, his executive team, faculty and administration have responded to the pandemic," she said. "The fact that the Chancellor and the Senior Vice Chancellors have chosen to donate a portion of their salary to the University is a powerful demonstration of their leadership and devotion to Pitt, and to our students."

Pitt was forced to shutter its campuses and move to online instruction last month, as coronavirus fears spread, triggering stay at home advisories and new guidelines for social distancing.

Gallagher said Pitt incurred $30 million to $40 million in costs as it moved to mothball dorms, shutter classrooms and switch to online instruction.

Just last week, he broached the possibility that Pitt, the region's largest university and one of Pittsburgh's biggest employers, might not be able to open for business as usual this fall. In a speech to the university community, he said Pitt officials are planning for a variety of scenarios including the possibility of a hybrid semester consisting of a combination of cycling between smaller, limited classes on campus and online instruction as the virus waxes and wanes.

Gallagher, a 57-year-old a Pitt-educated physicist was acting deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Commerce and director of the National Institutes of Standards and Technology when Pitt's board of trustees tapped him to become the university's 18th chancellor in 2014.

Deb Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. You can contact Deb at 724-850-1209, derdley@triblive.com or via Twitter @deberdley_trib.


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Chancellor, top Pitt leaders pledge portion of earnings to university

In a move that could set a standard across colleges facing financial shortfalls due to the coronavirus, University of Pittsburgh Chancellor Patrick Gallagher and eight Pitt senior vice chancellors Friday pledged a portion of their salaries to the university.

Their pledges -- Gallagher promised to commit 20% of his salary for 2020-21, while his senior vice chancellors each pledged 10% of theirs -- will add about $500,000 to Pitt coffers. Gallagher's 2020 base salary is just under $670,000. His 20% pledge alone comes out to about $133,000.

The executives designated their pledges to support students and the university community.

"I am honored to join my senior leadership team in giving back to the University of Pittsburgh and our students," Gallagher said, announcing the pledges. "In the face of this unprecedented crisis, we continue to respond in true Panther form: as a community."

Eva Tansky Blum, chair of Pitt's Board of Trustees said the move reflects a genuine commitment to Pitt.

"The University Trustees applaud the remarkable way the Chancellor, his executive team, faculty and administration have responded to the pandemic," she said. "The fact that the Chancellor and the Senior Vice Chancellors have chosen to donate a portion of their salary to the University is a powerful demonstration of their leadership and devotion to Pitt, and to our students."

Pitt was forced to shutter its campuses and move to online instruction last month, as coronavirus fears spread, triggering stay at home advisories and new guidelines for social distancing.

Gallagher said Pitt incurred $30 million to $40 million in costs as it moved to mothball dorms, shutter classrooms and switch to online instruction.

Just last week, he broached the possibility that Pitt, the region's largest university and one of Pittsburgh's biggest employers, might not be able to open for business as usual this fall. In a speech to the university community, he said Pitt officials are planning for a variety of scenarios including the possibility of a hybrid semester consisting of a combination of cycling between smaller, limited classes on campus and online instruction as the virus waxes and wanes.

Gallagher, a 57-year-old a Pitt-educated physicist was acting deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Commerce and director of the National Institutes of Standards and Technology when Pitt's board of trustees tapped him to become the university's 18th chancellor in 2014.

Deb Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. You can contact Deb at 724-850-1209, derdley@triblive.com or via Twitter @deberdley_trib.


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I’m sure this gave barren a good chuckle.
 
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Chancellor, top Pitt leaders pledge portion of earnings to university

In a move that could set a standard across colleges facing financial shortfalls due to the coronavirus, University of Pittsburgh Chancellor Patrick Gallagher and eight Pitt senior vice chancellors Friday pledged a portion of their salaries to the university.

Their pledges -- Gallagher promised to commit 20% of his salary for 2020-21, while his senior vice chancellors each pledged 10% of theirs -- will add about $500,000 to Pitt coffers. Gallagher's 2020 base salary is just under $670,000. His 20% pledge alone comes out to about $133,000.

The executives designated their pledges to support students and the university community.

"I am honored to join my senior leadership team in giving back to the University of Pittsburgh and our students," Gallagher said, announcing the pledges. "In the face of this unprecedented crisis, we continue to respond in true Panther form: as a community."

Eva Tansky Blum, chair of Pitt's Board of Trustees said the move reflects a genuine commitment to Pitt.

"The University Trustees applaud the remarkable way the Chancellor, his executive team, faculty and administration have responded to the pandemic," she said. "The fact that the Chancellor and the Senior Vice Chancellors have chosen to donate a portion of their salary to the University is a powerful demonstration of their leadership and devotion to Pitt, and to our students."

Pitt was forced to shutter its campuses and move to online instruction last month, as coronavirus fears spread, triggering stay at home advisories and new guidelines for social distancing.

Gallagher said Pitt incurred $30 million to $40 million in costs as it moved to mothball dorms, shutter classrooms and switch to online instruction.

Just last week, he broached the possibility that Pitt, the region's largest university and one of Pittsburgh's biggest employers, might not be able to open for business as usual this fall. In a speech to the university community, he said Pitt officials are planning for a variety of scenarios including the possibility of a hybrid semester consisting of a combination of cycling between smaller, limited classes on campus and online instruction as the virus waxes and wanes.

Gallagher, a 57-year-old a Pitt-educated physicist was acting deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Commerce and director of the National Institutes of Standards and Technology when Pitt's board of trustees tapped him to become the university's 18th chancellor in 2014.

Deb Erdley is a Tribune-Review staff writer. You can contact Deb at 724-850-1209, derdley@triblive.com or via Twitter @deberdley_trib.


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Thanks for this Anthony, and well done Pitt. What's your early take on the Fall semester? Football?
 
That strategy is idiotic. High risk populations should have been put on shelter in place directives along with those that must care for them while everyone else is put under regionally appropriate restrictions.

In a nut shell, we didn't have to destroy the economy to achieve the results we did given the very low risk THE VIRUS (insert foolish overly dramatic voice) is to almost everyone under 60.
Wait for the economy to open prematurely, the virus to spike far worse in round 2, and the economy to truly be depressed because we didn’t ‘take our medicine’ the first time and have to shut down far longer. And the availability of testing supplies to reopen is just not there at all because the federal government has been completely inept with supply chain management pitting states and even healthcare facilities against each other bidding on scarce supply. Do you guys know that many eastern pa hospitals are in crisis and running out of tests, gloves, and gowns? Do you know how many nursing homes have to reuse gowns and masks for weeks? Many of those hones resorted to trash bags and rain coats for gowns. The supplies just don’t exist here in pa or nationally and we are rushing toward opening. It will be catastrophic. Yeah, shelter in place the healthcare workers, at least half of which are single parents. And guess what, a significant number of positives are those under 60.
 
Cutting salaries by half for employees who are not able to perform their duties during the pandemic and cutting all budgets by 3%. Postponing some capital expenditures too. This is starting to get really ugly.

here come the e mails for donations .... This is a ++ that they are actually doing something other than asking for money.
 
Wait for the economy to open prematurely, the virus to spike far worse in round 2, and the economy to truly be depressed because we didn’t ‘take our medicine’ the first time and have to shut down far longer. And the availability of testing supplies to reopen is just not there at all because the federal government has been completely inept with supply chain management pitting states and even healthcare facilities against each other bidding on scarce supply. Do you guys know that many eastern pa hospitals are in crisis and running out of tests, gloves, and gowns? Do you know how many nursing homes have to reuse gowns and masks for weeks? Many of those hones resorted to trash bags and rain coats for gowns. The supplies just don’t exist here in pa or nationally and we are rushing toward opening. It will be catastrophic. Yeah, shelter in place the healthcare workers, at least half of which are single parents. And guess what, a significant number of positives are those under 60.

The decision to open shouldn't be made on a statewide basis. SE PA should remain closed.

Decisions should be made on a countywide basis. Counties in NW and NC PA should be open. When other counties have a similar number of cases to these counties, they too should be allowed to open.
 
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Higher education is the only industry that hasn't been expected to cut its expenses and reinvent itself over the last 10 years.

A shame it took a pandemic to force them to do so but hopefully this wakes them up.
I am curious as to what industries you perceive as having proactively cut expenses and reinvented themselves in the past 10 years. Healthcare? Defense? Banking?
 
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