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Penn State Plan to Deal with $260m Shortfall

I didn't say proactively. Certainly reactive based on the economy, especially after the 2008 crash. OK so that's not in the last 10 years but still.
 
Thanks for this Anthony, and well done Pitt. What's your early take on the Fall semester? Football?

i do not believe the BIG10 will play football in the fall. In addition, I believe the chances are 80/20 against classes on campus this fall.

The second summer semester is likely a 95/5
against as well, in my opinion.
 
The problem with these schools is that there is seemingly nothing that incentivizes them to become more efficient. Every other industry facing this challenge is stripping personnel down to the bone and imposing pay cuts on those who remain. Yet, these pigs keep their snouts in the trough.

When an industry is subsidized it loses any incentive to be efficient. No more complicated than that.
 
i do not believe the BIG10 will play football in the fall. In addition, I believe the chances are 80/20 against classes on campus this fall.

The second summer semester is likely a 95/5
against as well, in my opinion.

If that is the case, State College will never be the same as it was in March and will take a tremendous amount of time to recover. The amount of people Penn State will have to lay-off come July will be tremendous and destroy what remaining economy exists in the area.

I am betting Ohio State and some other B1G schools will have on campus classes in the fall, though I do agree about football.
 
i do not believe the BIG10 will play football in the fall. In addition, I believe the chances are 80/20 against classes on campus this fall.

The second summer semester is likely a 95/5
against as well, in my opinion.
The first part of your statement is total bullshit, and the second part doesn’t a take rocket scientist to figure out.
 
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i do not believe the BIG10 will play football in the fall. In addition, I believe the chances are 80/20 against classes on campus this fall.

The second summer semester is likely a 95/5
against as well, in my opinion.

Thanks for your insight Anthony, and I unfortunately believe you're right. When can we expect to see tenured professors furloughed or otherwise laid off?
 
If that is the case, State College will never be the same as it was in March and will take a tremendous amount of time to recover. The amount of people Penn State will have to lay-off come July will be tremendous and destroy what remaining economy exists in the area.

I am betting Ohio State and some other B1G schools will have on campus classes in the fall, though I do agree about football.
This us the point I was making when I started this topic. The economic dominoes are starting to fall.
 
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i do not believe the BIG10 will play football in the fall. In addition, I believe the chances are 80/20 against classes on campus this fall.

The second summer semester is likely a 95/5
against as well, in my opinion.
I thought the second summer session was already a done deal to be distance/virtual learning.
 
I thought the second summer session was already a done deal to be distance/virtual learning.

No, at this moment only the first summer session is distance learning. The decision regarding the second session will impact fall athletics.
 
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I know it won’t happen but a serious discussion about public health in our society is desperately needed after this event has run its course. And I don’t mean infectious disease control but diet and exercise to bring our population into a Better state of overall health and try to reduce these comorbidities.

And no green new deal, no new-urbanism. We see the results of packing people into buses and rail with what NYC and NJ.
 
no, at this amount only the first summer session is distance learning. The decision regarding the second session will impact fall athletics.

Sandy Barbour stated that realistically the football program would need about 60 days to get prepared for the fall season.

I have been fortunate in that I work for an essential business, so I haven't missed a day yet. However, we are seeing our sales dramatically drop, so furloughs are happening starting in a few weeks. Many of our employees work from home, but there are many still coming to work for production. We practice social distancing and wear masks. We also made some adaptations like keeping doors open so that people don't have to touch door handles.
 
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NBA, NHL, and MLB are making decisions for pro sports teams. Why do you suppose NCAA football would be any different?

"large gatherings such as concerts and sporting events may not be approved in the city for at least 1 year”

Doesn't sound like a done deal but that appears to be the consensus right now.

So, the city where the University of Southern California and the University of California at Los Angeles are located already said not to expect public sports in 2021. Do you think Emmert and his minions will be able to change this and open the Coliseum and Rose Bowl for games?
 
You're trying to argue a point that I'm not making o_O

I just don't think the NCAA is going to be the sole entity that determines if CFB is going to be played in 2020. Local, state, national governments, CDC guidelines, health service organizations, government agencies, are all going to have to align for games to be played in 2020.
 
That's fine. But, teams won't be playing until the NCAA gives the green light o_O

By the time the NCAA gives approval to play football, it will be perfunctory. All of the entities Richard listed, as well as others on the state and local level, conferences, and schools themselves, will have signaled okay. When it comes to important matter re football, the NCAA is the tail, not the dog.
 
The decision to play football is much bigger than how things appear in central Pennsylvania, the midwestern U.S. or the east coast.

The decision to play football this fall will be made by the NCAA, using virus data from across the country.

The NCAA controls basketball and the Conferences control football. The BIG10 will consult with the conference Presidents/Chancellors and AD’s to make this decision
 
No, at this moment only the first summer session is distance learning. The decision regarding the second session will impact fall athletics.
Anthony....Youngest son was accepted at Main Campus and we sat through a virtual town hall a week ago instructing us how to proceed with Summer Session II scheduling as decision had been made it was being delivered via distance learning. This is my fourth (and last) child seeking a college education - prior three all Penn Staters - and while I understand we are living in a new and unprecedented situation, I gotta tell you the lack of clarity and direction we have encountered so far in this process is mind boggling for an institution that makes the claims it does regarding education. Unfortunately, it has had us exploring his other options and opportunities.
 
Anthony....Youngest son was accepted at Main Campus and we sat through a virtual town hall a week ago instructing us how to proceed with Summer Session II scheduling as decision had been made it was being delivered via distance learning. This is my fourth (and last) child seeking a college education - prior three all Penn Staters - and while I understand we are living in a new and unprecedented situation, I gotta tell you the lack of clarity and direction we have encountered so far in this process is mind boggling for an institution that makes the claims it does regarding education. Unfortunately, it has had us exploring his other options and opportunities.
 

Well then, distance learning for Summer session II eliminates Fall football given the 60 day window Sandy Barber outlined earlier.
 
Penn State and just about any college that goes distance learning only in the fall is going to seem some real enrollment decreases as people are not going to pay that kind of money. These universities might hope that they get some more government bailout money, but the loss of revenue is going to force them to make some real cuts to their payroll and expenses. Not just a pay freeze type cut, but across the board permanent layoffs, deep salary cuts, curtailing of a lot of programs, capital freezes, etc...I think you will see a lot of kids end up spending a semester living from home taking some courses at the local community college for 1/4 the price and take the ones the credits that transfer.
 
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