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Football Penn State WR coach Taylor Stubblefield no longer with the program...

What’s the story with the change at WR coach?

That would be Taylor Stubblefield, the man who stabilized the Penn State receivers coach position after three previous years of musical chairs. By and large, Stubblefield’s receivers did one thing that his predecessors in the job didn’t always seem to accomplish – they caught the damn ball. He produced arguably the two single best Penn State receivers of the past six seasons (2017-22) – Jahan Dotson in 2021 and Parker Washington in 2022.

But he didn’t recruit or mine the transfer portal at a level James Franklin believed was necessary to challenge Ohio State. And when you look at the job new OSU offensive coordinator Brian Hartline did there as receivers coach, well, there’s no arguing that. Hartline produced one stud after another during that window, often deployed simultaneously – Marvin Harrison, Emeka Egbuka, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, Parris Campbell, K.J. Hill. That’s not even counting some of the stockpiled talent that couldn’t always get on field and/or were injured, such as Julian Fleming.

So, the fact is that, while Stubblefield upgraded the room and was a very good teacher of the craft, he wasn’t signing enough raw talent to compete with Penn State’s most important rival.

Here’s what I’ve learned about how the firing went down:

The tipping point occurred because Franklin wanted to sign a better 2023 class from both high schools and the portal than the staff delivered for which, of course, he substantially blamed Stubblefield. Still, I’m told that when he notified the assistant last Saturday night that they should meet, Stubblefield was not suspecting a dismissal. When the Sunday meeting occurred and Franklin informed him he was making a change, I understand that Stubblefield was quite surprised.

The meeting grew somewhat contentious beginning with Franklin’s assertion that the WR room was not producing enough and Stubblefield’s rebuttal that it had produced Washington and Dotson and the most functional and consistent unit of the offense, certainly in 2020 and 2021. That Washington had made one acrobatic catch after another in 2022 including his best game (11-179) at the most important moment – the 44-31 loss to Ohio State. That it even performed well without the injured Washington late in the 2022 season and in the Rose Bowl with Stubblefield portal signee Mitchell Tinsley starring in the 35-21 win over Utah.

The focus shifted to the 2023 portal signings. It’s known that onetime PSU commit Dont’e Thornton of Oregon (who officially signed with Tennessee 11 days ago), Kaden Prather of West Virginia (who officially signed with Maryland 16 days ago), Devin Carter of North Carolina State (who signed with West Virginia 10 days ago, 9 days after verbally committing to PSU in the wake of the Rose Bowl win), and Devontez Walker of Kent State (who signed with North Carolina a month ago) were targets Franklin wanted to have signed. That they were not, by all accounts, contributed to Stubblefield’s undoing. There was also some disagreement between the two about who should be pursued.

Here’s where the story begins to reflect the new era we’ve entered. I’m not going to name names but it’s already become common for sought-after recruits or transfers to name a price for their signature – 6 figures or even 7 depending on how many bidders are active. Either you come up with it or you’re not a player. The sell job isn’t cutting it anymore.

For decades, Penn State has been accustomed to simply stacking up the prowess of both their athletic and academic brands against other schools and signing kids based sheerly on that comparison. With the emergence of NIL and the portal, those days are over. Money talks and BS… you know the phrase.

Penn State has the donors and the money. And their brand still matters, just not as much. The trick will now be to identify high-character individuals with requisite talent and quickly pay them what they’re worth. I’m not certain Penn State has ironed out that process yet, but I’m sure it will because there is no choice.

In the meantime, I think Stubblefield was a guy caught in the crossfire of the Wild West as everyone tries to negotiate a transition. He was clearly good at coaching and teaching what he did very amply as a player at Purdue – catching the football, in traffic, in the clear, contested balls and not, gaining yards after the catch. That instruction skill will never go out of style and he will always find work.

But the job description of a major-college assistant became much more than that, almost during his PSU tenure. All college coaches are trying to adapt to the new lack of control in which they find themselves immersed; that’s Stubblefield and everybody else. I also don’t think that’s a bad thing. College players and their families have deserved more power for a long time. Now, they have it.

But the pressure on staff members to sign talent has never been higher than it is now. Stubblefield’s story is just one example.
I am not a big fan of David Jones, but I would assume almost all of this is true, yet he failed to mention things such as chemistry, persona, promotability, energy, and passion. Personally, I think there is something in the aforementioned that caused the termination, not missing out on WR recruits that got big NIL money.

Is there someone better out there? Absolutely, times are changing and PSU needs to step up the NIL and coaching game. It’s a business, and JF made a business decision. Appreciate you posting that article.
 
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Stubblefield was a good wr coach period. From reading this, the new hire had better be a big name or none of this makes sense
Was he though? only two high-quality receivers during his time and plenty of issues with guys in his room. Could some of that blame be on Clifford instead of the receivers, sure, but other than the two receivers mentioned, who has he really developed?
 
Was he though? only two high-quality receivers during his time and plenty of issues with guys in his room. Could some of that blame be on Clifford instead of the receivers, sure, but other than the two receivers mentioned, who has he really developed?
Dotson fell into PSU’s lap. Chip Kelly came to UCLA, saw a WR recruit who still had a hitch from a broken leg and ran a 4.7 40 And pulled the offer. Dotson jumped into a warm bed with PSU. I think Washington was under recruited and a real steal. He was lucky to have those two.
 
Was he though? only two high-quality receivers during his time and plenty of issues with guys in his room. Could some of that blame be on Clifford instead of the receivers, sure, but other than the two receivers mentioned, who has he really developed?
Stubblefield is the latest victim of the staff's inability to assemble a roster that can compete with Ohio State at their own game. The problem is not Stubblefield, it is Franklin. We generally lack talent at the position but Stubblefield got the most out of what talent he had to play with. He is more a developer of talent than recruiter which is the opposite of Gattis who couldn't develop talent or identify it. David Jones is bitter and spiteful, but he tends to make a lot of good points that the faithful are all to happy to ignore, at their own peril. People would do well to listen to the voice of reason.
 
Stubblefield is the latest victim of the staff's inability to assemble a roster that can compete with Ohio State at their own game. The problem is not Stubblefield, it is Franklin. We generally lack talent at the position but Stubblefield got the most out of what talent he had to play with. He is more a developer of talent than recruiter which is the opposite of Gattis who couldn't develop talent or identify it. David Jones is bitter and spiteful, but he tends to make a lot of good points that the faithful are all to happy to ignore, at their own peril. People would do well to listen to the voice of reason.
Fair enough...may we assume that replacing Stubs is part of an effort to "assemble a roster that can compete with Ohio State at their own game"?
 
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Stubblefield is the latest victim of the staff's inability to assemble a roster that can compete with Ohio State at their own game. The problem is not Stubblefield, it is Franklin. We generally lack talent at the position but Stubblefield got the most out of what talent he had to play with. He is more a developer of talent than recruiter which is the opposite of Gattis who couldn't develop talent or identify it. David Jones is bitter and spiteful, but he tends to make a lot of good points that the faithful are all to happy to ignore, at their own peril. People would do well to listen to the voice of reason.
since you think Franklin is the problem and assuming he is fired who should PSU replace him with and let's try to be realistic and don't give me anyone else would be better - if you have an issue provide a solution otherwise you are just a whiner.
 
When the same bullshit from the same "PSU Fans" is spewed after 11-2 (as it was at 7-6) the issue isn't with the coach. ;)
 
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since you think Franklin is the problem and assuming he is fired who should PSU replace him with and let's try to be realistic and don't give me anyone else would be better - if you have an issue provide a solution otherwise you are just a whiner.
Franklin won't be fired for five more years. Sandy saw to that. But, the fact of the matter is Franklin is the problem, or really his philosophy. He will never elevate the program beyond a certain point so long as he refuses to accept reality. Reality being, we can't beat Ohio State at their own game because we will never amass sufficient talent to do so. Now, that doesn't mean he couldn't have a come to Jesus moment and change. Though, given his inability to accept criticism and acknowledge his own failures, I doubt it happens, but, if it did, he wouldn't fire Stubbs, he would fire his coordinators and bring in guys that can bean Ohio State with the players we have using Xs and Os. We don't have that in MY or Diaz. We have guys that parrot Franklin's approach and will continue to lose to Ohio State, the Michigan schools when they are good.
 
Franklin won't be fired for five more years. Sandy saw to that. But, the fact of the matter is Franklin is the problem, or really his philosophy. He will never elevate the program beyond a certain point so long as he refuses to accept reality. Reality being, we can't beat Ohio State at their own game because we will never amass sufficient talent to do so. Now, that doesn't mean he couldn't have a come to Jesus moment and change. Though, given his inability to accept criticism and acknowledge his own failures, I doubt it happens, but, if it did, he wouldn't fire Stubbs, he would fire his coordinators and bring in guys that can bean Ohio State with the players we have using Xs and Os. We don't have that in MY or Diaz. We have guys that parrot Franklin's approach and will continue to lose to Ohio State, the Michigan schools when they are good.
The only coach who could beat OSU and Michigan is you Waldo.
 
Several? Really?
Go look at the common threads that exist between almost all of OSU's losses in Big Ten play since Urban Meyer took over. Offensively and defensively, the pattern is there. Franklin would rather attempt to beat them at their own game with lesser talent. What is the common definition of insanity?
 
Go look at the common threads that exist between almost all of OSU's losses in Big Ten play since Urban Meyer took over. Offensively and defensively, the pattern is there. Franklin would rather attempt to beat them at their own game with lesser talent. What is the common definition of insanity?
Outside of Michigan and Franklin, there were only 3 losses…that’s not several, so Franklin matched every other coach that beat OSU except Harbaugh and he’s only one game behind him. If it’s so easy to figure out how to beat OSU, why can’t anyone else in the Big figure it out (except you of course)?
 
Outside of Michigan and Franklin, there were only 3 losses…that’s not several, so Franklin matched every other coach that beat OSU except Harbaugh and he’s only one game behind him. If it’s so easy to figure out how to beat OSU, why can’t anyone else in the Big figure it out (except you of course)?
Dig deeper....it's the metrics :cool:
 
Wow, after 20 years, no more posts. Wonder if he passed away? Or did he jump to the other board? …..which wasn’t until Halloween.
Someone may have gotten a permanent time out....not sure. Prior to the Purdue game, one of those guys (not sure who) did some internet sleuthing and decided it would be cool to taut me with my late wife's maiden name. I reported it and not only did it cease but it seems one of the guys left the board.
 
Someone may have gotten a permanent time out....not sure. Prior to the Purdue game, one of those guys (not sure who) did some internet sleuthing and decided it would be cool to taut me with my late wife's maiden name. I reported it and not only did it cease but it seems one of the guys left the board.
If that’s what happened it’s pretty terrible. Sorry you had to deal with that.
 
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