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Wrestling Penn State Wrestling Notebook: Addressing the Offseason Rumor Mill

I can see both Carter and Barr weighing in at 184 most of the season. Carter will only wrestle a minimum number of matches especially early season. Cael can then play games with which guy wrestles each match. For B1G and NCAA obviously it will be Carter at 184.
 
I can see both Carter and Barr weighing in at 184 most of the season. Carter will only wrestle a minimum number of matches especially early season. Cael can then play games with which guy wrestles each match. For B1G and NCAA obviously it will be Carter at 184.
Not how they r going to do it.
 
Nope and I didn't bring up wins and losses in a sophomore season. Just replied to it. Not sure why you're so upset about it.

"Through their first 2 years of college Haines has more losses, if you want to get down to it."

Technically, you are correct, you didn't address wins and losses in a sophomore season, you addressed losses through the sophomore season.

Not upset, amused.

Nota Bene: Haines, wrestling up ten percent of his prior weight class (six months ago) lost to a Burroughs four push-outs to one. Think about this; a guy whose got over decade of experience wrestling the and at the highest levels couldn't score a takedown on Haines and then Haines ragged dolled O'Toole.

I think we're seeing the emergence of a 174 who is going to be a demolition machine.
 
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I can see both Carter and Barr weighing in at 184 most of the season. Carter will only wrestle a minimum number of matches especially early season. Cael can then play games with which guy wrestles each match. For B1G and NCAA obviously it will be Carter at 184.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. If Barr is wrestling 197 this postseason, he needs to be 100% focused on 197. Not bouncing between 2 weights. It’s more likely we use Ryder’s 5 dates and Erik Gibson to supplement Carter’s limited schedule.
 
I can see both Carter and Barr weighing in at 184 most of the season. Carter will only wrestle a minimum number of matches especially early season. Cael can then play games with which guy wrestles each match. For B1G and NCAA obviously it will be Carter at 184.
Any matches Barr wrestles at 184 do not count toward B10 or NCAA seeding.

So it makes no sense to do this.
 
That would be great. Having gone to summer camp at Lake Cayuga for about 6 years, there is no way if I grew up there that I’d willingly live in the US more than easy driving distance away - unless we’re talking Carmel, CA, Puget Sound, WA or the like.

Fingerlakes/Alleghenies vs Oklahoma would take a WHOLE lot of money, and even then I’d be torn. DT was used to moving around; Dake is an Upstate guy through and through.
Small corrections. Cayuga Lake. Not the other way around. Finger Lakes region …..all by itself is greater than anywhere Oklahoma. :)

You are spot on. Kyle’s family and wife’s family are tight! A move halfway across the country would be a big ask.

But…::sometimes money can talk and with some numbers pushed around these days I could see a move happen
 
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Any matches Barr wrestles at 184 do not count toward B10 or NCAA seeding.

So it makes no sense to do this.
This is the final answer on this. Obviously, Cael & Co could give a shit about Starocci's seeding since he is a bad draw for everyone else regardless of his seed, not the other way around, but they will want to make sure that Barr's seed is always as good as it can be. If Barr is going to go 197 in the postseason, he will 100% wrestle the entire year at 197.
 
That doesn’t make much sense to me. If Barr is wrestling 197 this postseason, he needs to be 100% focused on 197. Not bouncing between 2 weights. It’s more likely we use Ryder’s 5 dates and Erik Gibson to supplement Carter’s limited schedule.
If Facundo gives up the ghost on the cut to 157 (or just flat out gets beaten by Kasak for the spot), he should be available at 174/184 for fill in duty as well. I get that he is looking at the lineup and thinking that challenging Kasak for a spot is a more realistic path to starting than challenging MM, Levi, or Starocci (all favored or at least contenders to win nationals), but that cut to 157 is likely to be pretty harsh for him, and I'm not convinced he'll be able to hold that weight for a whole season. We'll see, I guess.
 
I can see both Carter and Barr weighing in at 184 most of the season. Carter will only wrestle a minimum number of matches especially early season. Cael can then play games with which guy wrestles each match. For B1G and NCAA obviously it will be Carter at 184.
Between the fact Barr is way too big for 184 right now (plus weigh in descent rules) and the fact he is planning to go 197, this makes less than 0 sense.
 
Small corrections. Cayuga Lake. Not the other way around. Finger Lake region …..all by itself is greater than anywhere Oklahoma. :)

You are spot on. Kyle’s family and wife’s family are tight! A move halfway across the country would be a big ask.

But…::sometimes money can talk and with some numbers pushed around these days I could see a move happen
Besides the wintertime, Cayuga Lake offers one of the most beautiful sceneries in the country! I used to spend most of my summer about 30 miles from Ithaca and it's one of my favorite places on earth!
 
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