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Pitt attendance last night vs Va Tech

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I know they're going to try to say 40,000 were there but no way. The place was embarrassingly empty in lots of areas . Still, Pitt announced a season ticket sellout before the season, yet continue to run ads to sell tickets for $15.00. How is that possible?

Attendance was under 35,000, maybe closer to 30,000. Season ticket sell out of 55,600.....so where are all the Pitt fans?
 
Pitt Stadium had approximately the same capacity as Heinz Field, correct? Did they struggle with attendance in the past or is this simply due to the move off-campus? I assume they didn't struggle in the late 70s/early 80s, but what about the 90's up until the move.
 
They probably saw the 9,000 seats for sale on stubhub for last nights game and then attempted to resell them to people who don't know how to use the internet.
 
I know they're going to try to say 40,000 were there but no way. The place was embarrassingly empty in lots of areas . Still, Pitt announced a season ticket sellout before the season, yet continue to run ads to sell tickets for $15.00. How is that possible?

Attendance was under 35,000, maybe closer to 30,000. Season ticket sell out of 55,600.....so where are all the Pitt fans?

They say they sell out season tickets. That is probably because Pitt only offers up 10,000 season tickets so they can say they sold out. The other 45,000 tickets that could be sold for Pitt games are not 'season tickets'.
 
Pitt Stadium had approximately the same capacity as Heinz Field, correct? Did they struggle with attendance in the past or is this simply due to the move off-campus? I assume they didn't struggle in the late 70s/early 80s, but what about the 90's up until the move.

Did a quick google and all the comparison's I have seen seem to be based on tickets sold not actual gate attendance. Lost of 44K average at Pitt Stadium vs. 42K at Heinz field .... uh yeah ok how about we deal in realistic numbers and look at actual attendance
 
There was a Carol Burnett concert, as pointed out by a Pitt fan. How can they compete with draws like that? C'mon.


Pittsburgh-bound Carol Burnett gets TV deal
Timesonline.com-Oct 23, 2016
Carol Burnett is booked for Heinz Hall this Thursday. The comedy legend is taking questions from audience members on her tour. prev. next.
 
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How many will attend Pitt's last 2 home games vs Duke and Syracuse After Pitt gets blown out by Miami and Clemson? Going into the Duke game I'll bet only an ACTUAL attendance of 15,000 - 17,000 show up. Also, by then, at 5-5 after the blow outs, Nardouchie will exchange his windbreaker for a straight jacket and 2 uniformed orderlies.
 
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I know they're going to try to say 40,000 were there but no way. The place was embarrassingly empty in lots of areas . Still, Pitt announced a season ticket sellout before the season, yet continue to run ads to sell tickets for $15.00. How is that possible?

Attendance was under 35,000, maybe closer to 30,000. Season ticket sell out of 55,600.....so where are all the Pitt fans?
Capacity is 65,000. That stadium was no more than 25% capacity.
 
I know they're going to try to say 40,000 were there but no way. The place was embarrassingly empty in lots of areas . Still, Pitt announced a season ticket sellout before the season, yet continue to run ads to sell tickets for $15.00. How is that possible?

Attendance was under 35,000, maybe closer to 30,000. Season ticket sell out of 55,600.....so where are all the Pitt fans?
Pitt will never draw what we draw. They have far fewer undergrads and far fewer alums. I don't know the actual numbers, but I would venture to say that a high percentage of fans at Beaver Stadium are one or the other. Sure, every school has their "subway alums", but if I'm living in the Pittsburgh area and have no direct tie to the University, why would I go to their games? I believe I read they have about 19K undergrads at the main Pitt campus, and we have 41K. Every year our alumni base grows increasingly larger than theirs. We should substantially outdraw them.
 
I was there and left during halftime. I sat with long time ticket holders who both agreed that attendence was 24K max.
Like I reported in another thread, there was a truly funny moment when during the game there was a McDonald's promotion for all in Section 528. Truly funny that there were 8 people sitting in that entire section when the promotion was announced on the screens.
 
I know they're going to try to say 40,000 were there but no way. The place was embarrassingly empty in lots of areas . Still, Pitt announced a season ticket sellout before the season, yet continue to run ads to sell tickets for $15.00. How is that possible?

Attendance was under 35,000, maybe closer to 30,000. Season ticket sell out of 55,600.....so where are all the Pitt fans?

I brought my son two weeks ago to watch Army play Lafayette at West Point.

Stadium was a sell out and hosts 38,000... Incredible atmosphere but still very small...

Heinz field seats how many? And with only 30k seats filled... Must have been dreadful. Especially for a D1 program " on the rise" as their fan base likes to say.
 
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I brought my son two weeks ago to watch Army play Lafayette at West Point.

Stadium was a sell out and hosts 38,000... Incredible atmosphere but still very small...

Heinz field seats how many? And with only 30k seats filled... Must have been dreadful. Especially for a D1 program " on the rise" as their fan base likes to say.


West Point is a great place to visit at least once in the Fall. Not many people think of going there for a game but they are really missing out. Nice job on taking your son to a game there. He'll never forget it.
 
Pitt Stadium had approximately the same capacity as Heinz Field, correct? Did they struggle with attendance in the past or is this simply due to the move off-campus? I assume they didn't struggle in the late 70s/early 80s, but what about the 90's up until the move.
Even when they were good (i.e. when the Golden Panthers were paying players) they never drew except for us, WVU and an occasional big name like ND. The problem isn't Heinz field, it's apathy from their alumni and the Pittsburgh area.
 
Pitt Stadium had approximately the same capacity as Heinz Field, correct? Did they struggle with attendance in the past or is this simply due to the move off-campus? I assume they didn't struggle in the late 70s/early 80s, but what about the 90's up until the move.
With the exception of PSU, Notre Dame, & West Virginia games they never really filled Pitt Stadium in the 70's & 80's.
 
I know they're going to try to say 40,000 were there but no way. The place was embarrassingly empty in lots of areas . Still, Pitt announced a season ticket sellout before the season, yet continue to run ads to sell tickets for $15.00. How is that possible?

Attendance was under 35,000, maybe closer to 30,000. Season ticket sell out of 55,600.....so where are all the Pitt fans?
Listened a little to Cook & Philliponi(sp) this morning due to the fact I hit a deer last night with my company car and had to use a vehicle with no XM in it. They cannot understand why with setting a record for season tickets sold at 55K why only 40K showed up. (Really 25-30K at the most) They totally dismissed the idea that so many Penn State fans purchased season tickets just for one game.
 
Even when they were good (i.e. when the Golden Panthers were paying players) they never drew except for us, WVU and an occasional big name like ND. The problem isn't Heinz field, it's apathy from their alumni and the Pittsburgh area.

This is accurate. Even back in the mid to late 70's / early 80' with the Tony Dorsett and Dan Marino eras (Johnny Majors / Jackie Sherril) their attendance was awful. Except for when they played Penn State, and ND, and WVU. And during those games, at least half the fans were for the "visiting" team.

Pitts' lack of attendance has nothing to do with the move to Heinz Field.
 
Pitt Stadium had approximately the same capacity as Heinz Field, correct? Did they struggle with attendance in the past or is this simply due to the move off-campus? I assume they didn't struggle in the late 70s/early 80s, but what about the 90's up until the move.
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They had trouble drawing fans during the Dorsett years
 
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Even when they were good (i.e. when the Golden Panthers were paying players) they never drew except for us, WVU and an occasional big name like ND. The problem isn't Heinz field, it's apathy from their alumni and the Pittsburgh area.
It may also have to do with the fact that we have 340,000 more living alumni than they do. We also have more than twice as many undergrads (main campus comparison).
 
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Wonder if Pitt AD Barnes will be hyping up season ticket sales next year?
 
It may also have to do with the fact that we have 340,000 more living alumni than they do. We also have more than twice as many undergrads (main campus comparison).

Correct. There are more Penn State alumni in Allegheny County than there are Pitt alumni.
 
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That's an old myth. I think there are more Pitt alumni in Allegheny County than PSU alumni by a fair margin. I don't have a link, but I thought I read somewhere recently that there are about 75K Pitt alumni, and 50K PSU alumni, in Allegheny County. But as you include the neighboring counties, PSU moves ahead.

Doesn't matter how many Pitt alumni are in the county, though. They don't go to football games.
 
That's an old myth. I think there are more Pitt alumni in Allegheny County than PSU alumni by a fair margin. I don't have a link, but I thought I read somewhere recently that there are about 75K Pitt alumni, and 50K PSU alumni, in Allegheny County. But as you include the neighboring counties, PSU moves ahead.

Doesn't matter how many Pitt alumni are in the county, though. They don't go to football games.
And the Pittsburgh metro area is about 2,000,000 population.

I'd guess a similar radius around State College - is about 1,500,000 less :)

Simply - - - - no one cares about Pitt football
 
I brought my son two weeks ago to watch Army play Lafayette at West Point.

Stadium was a sell out and hosts 38,000... Incredible atmosphere but still very small...

Heinz field seats how many? And with only 30k seats filled... Must have been dreadful. Especially for a D1 program " on the rise" as their fan base likes to say.

My Dad used to take my Brother and I up to West Point for games when I was younger and apart from the Penn State games he took us to, it was one of the best experiences I had growing up. Great atmosphere with all the cadets and beautiful campus. Good job taking your son he will really appreciate it when he gets older trust me. Army Navy games were always great too. Good memories.
 
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My Dad used to take my Brother and I up to West Point for games when I was younger and apart from the Penn State games he took us to, it was one of the best experiences I had growing up. Great atmosphere with all the cadets and beautiful campus. Good job taking your son he will really appreciate it when he gets older trust me. Army Navy games were always great too. Good memories.


I have always wanted to go to a game at West Point. I was just reading about taking a ferry from Wall St to the stadium. Have you, or anyone else, ever done this? It seems like it would be an incredible experience.
 
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I brought my son two weeks ago to watch Army play Lafayette at West Point.

Stadium was a sell out and hosts 38,000... Incredible atmosphere but still very small...

Heinz field seats how many? And with only 30k seats filled... Must have been dreadful. Especially for a D1 program " on the rise" as their fan base likes to say.

I'm seeing official capacity at 65,050 - no way, no how there were 30K there given that capacity....doubt it was over 20K based on that capacity number.
 
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And the Pittsburgh metro area is about 2,000,000 population.

I'd guess a similar radius around State College - is about 1,500,000 less :)

Simply - - - - no one cares about Pitt football
You're way off...state college has a population of around 42,000 and the entire county only has about 150,000
 
I've been going to Pitt games since the mid-70s. They never drew well. For whatever reason, Pitt alums just don't support the football program, either by going or financially, like a lot of schools do. It used to really bother me, but it's gotten to the point where I'm not going to let it ruin my game day experience. Pitt is the #4 team in Pittsburgh. And they are treated as such by the local media. A lot of it is on Pitt, for the last 35 years football has been pretty irrelevant. Throw in a prior administration that didn't know what the hell they were doing with athletics, and here you are. As a season ticket holder, I go no matter what. Pitt hasn't done much since '81 to draw fans in. I hate Heinz Field. It's way too big for Pitt. Like 25,000 too big. A 40-50k stadium is plenty big enough. The yellow seats are an eyesore. The atmosphere is meh at best. I like the new administration's plan for athletics. Chancellor Gallagher seems to know that athletics can be a great advertisement for the university.

I was there Thursday night. It was weird. At kickoff, there couldn't have been 20,000 in their seats. However, by the end of the first-quarter, I would say 30,000 is an accurate number. And then, after halftime, it seemed that people left.
The big problem also, especially in the lower bowl, is that those seats are all sold. The problem is that a lot of times people don't come. They think they're doing their duty by purchasing season tickets, but then those seats go unused. And those yellow seats look so bad on TV.
I've heard differing opinions on how much attendance matters to recruits. I'm sure it matters more to some than others. There are so many other factors that go into their decision.
It will be interesting to see what happens when the Steelers lease is up with Heinz Field. A lot of people seem to think they are going to move out of the city into a neighboring county with a new stadium. At that point, Pitt will be faced with a big decision to make.
 
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I've been going to Pitt games since the mid-70s. They never drew well. For whatever reason, Pitt alums just don't support the football program, either by going or financially, like a lot of schools do. It used to really bother me, but it's gotten to the point where I'm not going to let it ruin my game day experience. Pitt is the #4 team in Pittsburgh. And they are treated as such by the local media. A lot of it is on Pitt, for the last 35 years football has been pretty irrelevant. Throw in a prior administration that didn't know what the hell they were doing with athletics, and here you are. As a season ticket holder, I go no matter what. Pitt hasn't done much since '81 to draw fans in. I hate Heinz Field. It's way too big for Pitt. Like 25,000 too big. A 40-50k stadium is plenty big enough. The yellow seats are an eyesore. The atmosphere is meh at best. I like the new administration's plan for athletics. Chancellor Gallagher seems to know that athletics can be a great advertisement for the university.

I was there Thursday night. It was weird. At kickoff, there couldn't have been 20,000 in their seats. However, by the end of the first-quarter, I would say 30,000 is an accurate number. And then, after halftime, it seemed that people left.
The big problem also, especially in the lower bowl, is that those seats are all sold. The problem is that a lot of times people don't come. They think they're doing their duty by purchasing season tickets, but then those seats go unused. And those yellow seats look so bad on TV.
I've heard differing opinions on how much attendance matters to recruits. I'm sure it matters more to some than others. There are so many other factors that go into their decision.
It will be interesting to see what happens when the Steelers lease is up with Heinz Field. A lot of people seem to think they are going to move out of the city into a neighboring county with a new stadium. At that point, Pitt will be faced with a big decision to make.
When does the Steelers' lease run out?
 
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