Plane with the Banner.
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What's with ispeakjive saying "us" like he's a Penn Stater? I love when the trolls act like they are one of us, as though they think they can fool us.
It's an advanced technique that they teach in their graduate level "Hate State" class. As if simply saying "us" will make us forget that everything else he says is lair-speak.
I think Simons is being sarcastic about McCue - but it was a bit prescient. Wouldn't that just be something, after all that Sturm und Drang over the statue removal and the subsequent backlash from trolls and haters - was all because of the local town crackpot, a prominent troll, a hater and a harasser. A guy who allegedly entertained underage kids at drinking parties held at a separate apartment for such purposes.
I would think though, by this time - wouldn't McCue have taken credit for such a stunt?
Paul Suhey, on the other hand.
Not if he still wants to live in PA. He'd be run out out of town & beaten to a pulp. This isn't like writing an op-ed or vandalizing newspapers with a red marker. His home & car would be vandalized weekly. That's why no air banner service in PA would've taken the job.
Hmm. Good point.
Well - one thing we do know - it was not taken down for the reason(s) Fraudney gave us. That was just another gaslighting lie - among so many.
Well I also wouldn't put it past Paul Suhey to lie. I mean it wouldn't be the first time.
When can we yank the weasel Rod's name off the creamery building?
No things are not better and predators like Sandusky and his "buddies" are still around. They are hiding in plain sight. They caused the big, loud and
bright explosion on center stage while they exited stage left.
I actually agree with you on this but I have no idea why they included the wall with the players on it it.
Don't be fooled. The plane banner was part of the Freeh/NCAA/BoT choreography.
I can't give the BoT that much credit.
If arson threats can be made against a local restaurant over the bench project - surely there are crackpots out there capable of this stunt.
I'm just stunned at what plane service allows this type of stunt post 9/11 and for it to go on over a community like this for 3 days.
This is not advertising the seafood bar & half-priced drinks at some place down the shore .
I'm with you.
Look at the situation from the perspective of someone who knows the report is a sham. The likelihood of local resistance to removing the statue even in the face of Freeh's "findings" is high -- especially after the stakeholders will have had the opportunity to read the actual report. With the additional motive of the plane banner stunt, the cabal ensures that they have "safety" reasons for removing it (which they will still cite after their ruse is exposed).
Also remember that there was also the likelihood of a Paterno defamation lawsuit lying in wait.
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Good point. The fact that no one has taken credit for it give one pause. So perhaps it did come from within?
For example - if it was Dan Bernstein, or one of his minions trying to be the "hero" to Dan - surely he'd crow about it. The guy pretty much issued a bomb threat to the town of Ephrata over this latest statue project. Which, University Admin was made aware of (thankyouverymuch) and escalated it to authorities.
All I know is that Paul Silvis relayed in a convo with friends some time after this stunt, that Fraudney told the BoT that "Emmert wanted it down" - hence we ruminated on this NCAA malice angle. Which of course was yet another lie told by Fraudney - as we now know Paul Suhey was the driving force behind trying to appease the NCAA Volcano God.
Surely someone will crack & 'fess up.
There is a reason that the piece of shit in charge of this hasn't moved forward.
Think of who seemed to get a kick out of the entire initial fallout.
Think of who seemed to get a kick out of the entire initial fallout.
yes I was being sarcastic, but wouldn't surprise me
all the sordid election losers from Upward State seem to be doing well with their "appointments" to the BoT and Alumni Council
Bernie might get an honorary emeritus seat from this gang of a$$ hats
Eh, their victories are temporary. The walls seem to be coming down brick by brick, and as soon as someone feels enough heat to start pointing fingers, it will become an epidemic. It only takes one, and that's why Lubert is around again. Somebody or something was making them nervous.
IIRC, the company which flew the banner is based out of Ohio however they refused to divulge who hired them to fly it.
Help us out here. Seinfeld could not figure out Dolores and clitoris. Surma rhymes with?
Where does the Surma hate come from? The nephew's conflicted life? Is there more?
2nd clue: His last name starts with an "S", like Shit.
Isn't that the nephew part, Vic Jr.? Nothing else? They blame Vic Jr.'s behavior and unfortunate end on Joe Paturno? (Spelling doesn't count -- only a name and this is the Internet and maybe I'm in a hurry--plus it sounds the same). There's got to be more to the Surma/Paturno thing. No?
Third clue...he took pleasure in the press conference.
As mentioned above, Google "Surma Vendetta". Better yet, here's the link:
http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-surma-vendetta.html
I can't recall the exact date but at one time prior to 2005 Vic Sr., made a glowing tribute to Joe and the manner in which he ran the PSU football program. What changed?? By 2005 Vic Jr., had paid his dues and was in line to see a marked increase in playing time. Unfortunately for him three talented guys named Williams, Butler and Norwood stepped up and young Surma rarely saw meaningful snaps. I think the family for some reason felt Joe owed it to them to put Vic Jr. on the field even if other players were better. Throw in Vic Jr.'s tragic substance abuse problem and voila!! The Surma's blamed Joe for the perceived failures of Vic Jr. because they would never admit their expectations were too high in the first place. Not every young football player is destined for the NFL.
not trying to stir any feelings about this issue, but I also think the Surmas blamed Vic Jr's (apparent) sexual orientation and "lifestyle" on Joe. Yes, it seems to me to be pretty bizarre they went there, but after watching John in action, the family seems to be littered with narcissistic sociopaths.
Wow-Joe was more powerful than I thought
Yup. That is one of the issues. But Joes firing was as much to have a lot of people look the other way from goings on between BoT and TSM as anything else.
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Don't underestimate the incompetency required to tank USS as bad as Surma did. While the market definitely softened during his tenure, bad moves all over the globe caused a large portion of USS' problems. They had a $100 per ton production cost advantage due to their iron ore mining operations but weren't able to leverage it properly. This PPG article summarizes the situation nicely. http://www.post-gazette.com/busines...U-S-Steel-stage-comeback/stories/201308250193
too bad he was distracted by his underhanded leadership of Penn State during the worst crisis in its history
surprised there hasn't been a shareholder lawsuit against USS (as far as I know there is none) and Surma for his willful neglect as CEO
We were supposed to be ashamed of our football culture that supposedly allowed sandusky to be a pedophile. Fault Joe, fault Austin Scott, fault Tamba Hali, fault Anthony Morrelli, fault...They are all to blame.
It's amazing how stupid that sounds, but that was their "rationale".
surma told his shareholders that, with the benefit of hindsight, he should have done more. A shareholder corrected him, telling him he should have done less.
Didn't you know that Joe held family-planning meetings regularly with his players?
"Vic, I watch you, and I have to say, I don't see you with a woman. You need to come out of the closet and be gay. Find a boyfriend, and if you desire, adopt."
A few months later:
"Vic, how is your gayness coming along? Are you meeting any guys?"
This happened.
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