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Cael Sanderson On Penn State's 29-6 Win At Iowa
Penn State coach Cael Sanderson shares his thoughts after the Nittany Lions defeated Iowa 29-6 in Carver-Hawkeye Arena.
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Kerk too, no?
I know that Davis lost to Drake, but he was aggressive throughout. He just not could not put anything together. Drake came out of that match looking like he was in a war. Davis beat up on him Pretty good..
At least Terry didn't run out of Carver before the handshake line like he did at BJC.
What was weird was that it was maybe 10 seconds after a restart, he didn't put in legs and he just locked a half Nelson. There was no reason to have called it in that situation.
You are correct. For some reason I thought he was PA. Oh well, he is still funny as hell.
I think he was apologizing for the booing at introductions.
Sounds like the fans on hr have moved in to stage 5 of grieving... acceptance.
I’m a wrestling newbie and mostly lurk on the board trying to learn and see what others are thinking. I’ve heard people make comments in the past about the Iowa coach and I figured that was just your normal rival type stuff.
I saw the video of his post match presser last night and my first thought is there’s just something wrong with him. He reminded me of Narduzzi in some ways in his paranoia over PSU with the pedestal comment but it was more than that. I can’t pin it down but he’s just a really odd duck. Does that hurt them on the recruiting trail?
Yes, Bartlett got a stall warning. At the time, he was backing up and avoiding engagement with Woods. Had no issue with that call. If stalling was consistently called like that, it would big a big improvement to college wrestling.
You would get more insight over on GIA.
"Overall – We took care of business. Good for early Feb. Nebbie will be fun to watch and another measuring stick at a few weights! Hard to listen to Gibbons or Johnson. If there is anything good to say about PSU its in a low voice. History type of accolades are mostly always Iowa… such homers even though they are not trying to be. Just seems it is painful for them (to say something good to the Iowa opponent). Iowa had a lot of blood this meet"
I honestly don't understand comments like this and other similar ones. I thought that both announcers were effusive in their praise of PSU individuals (especially Levi) and of Cael and the team in general.
I honestly don't understand comments like this and other similar ones. I thought that both announcers were effusive in their praise of PSU individuals (especially Levi) and of Cael and the team in general.
We must have been watching different matches. Davis wasn't aggressive nor pushed the pace until the final 30 seconds or so of the bout. As noted earlier, Davis essentially let Drake get away with hanging out on one knee for much of the match.
I’ve scanned there at times. It’s more bitter snarky comments generally. That’s where I saw the iowa presser vid.
Many there have raised the question of getting a new coach and recruiting/ wrestling style issues. Then you get the typical sniping between those who think things have to change and those who reflexively attack anyone who dares to question Iowa wrestling. No great insights there.
I’ve posted before that his “us vs the world” hard nose attitude attracts some wrestlers that Cael’s “live clean, have fun, score points” persona turns off. But I think there are fewer of them each year. Times have changed.
I agree with that. Although, maybe it's better to get KOT in the semis if he has a big cut? Although it would be a shame to not have those 2 in the finals.
Did he get the stall warning right as he got a TD?
This one? (the subsequent commentary between Willie and Corby is entertaining, with Willie calling Corby "full scale Iowa Stan" and asking him if Slumlord Bob's check cleared. 🤣)
That was Terry. Maybe he knows he'll be in the job market soon.
I am sure Gable answer was well they have to wrestle even though his teams stalled a lot as well!
I don’t understand what Casey meant, but reading his lips he finished with the words “shine box.”
Too many of Davis' shots were of the straight on variety. He is going to have to diversify his attacks a bit to have success against Ayala.
Unrelated, Davis uses the sit out to get off bottom more than I have seen a wrestler do in years and he is very good at it. Sit down, hand fight to break the hold, scoot away. I guess I notice it because it was one of the things that they taught us in 7th grade gym class almost 50 years ago. You can tell his dad is a wrestling coach.
I think if he ties kids up he can score a lot from neutral. As for the sit out it's awesome. He is so good at getting out from there. If kids try to drag him back he just spins out.
Bo Jordan thought Cael's practices weren't tough enough.
Several of the Iowa wrestlers were using the sit out as well. I don't remember seeing it as often as I did last night.
Possibly with some, though a lot of coaches across sports are more than a little off (Brian Kelly for starters) and recruit plenty well enough.
Whatever recruiting issues they have are more likely due to recruiting methods, NCAA placement, and the HWC roster.
I rewatched the Ayala/Davis match. Ayala dropped to one knee 30 times in the match. These weren't in response to an attack as the announcers said, every time they squared up, Ayala dropped to his one knee defense.
He did not take a single shot the last two periods. Yet, he only got a single stall call in the last 25 seconds from a referee that handed out stall calls like candy to wrestlers majoring their opponents.
He did not take a single shot the last two periods. Yet, he only got a single stall call in the last 25 seconds from a referee that handed out stall calls like candy to wrestlers majoring their opponents.
He did - silly Ref called stalling just as Beau was shooting (and converted the shoot for a TD). What was laughable about the call was that Beau was the only party who took an offensive shot in the 3rd Period (or the match for that matter).
I like the 3pt TD. I think the issue is that stall calls are so random. You'll have a ref aggressively calling stalling in one match and the next call it completely different. You'll improve action if you find a way to be consistent and aggressive with stall calls. To hell with the 1st stall call in the last 30 seconds of the 3rd when the guy hadn't done anything for an entire period.
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LOL your saying ayala did??give me a break!2 periods of on knee stalling
Ayala didn't take a single shot in the 1st Period either - his TD came on a "counter throw-by" as Davis was pressing forward hard. Complete nonsense that Davis wasn't the aggressor the entire match - take a look every time they squared up and engaged (usually an ear-to-ear collar-tie) - including Ayala's coynter takedown - Davis is taking ground and Ayala is giving ground. BTW, it isn't Davis' job to stop Ayala from going to one knee 30 times and refusing to wrestle from Neutral (i.e., engage the other wrestler). It is the Ref's job to stop Ayala from doing it and "make him pay" if he insists upon continuing to do it and refusing to wrestle from Neutral.
I completely agree but Davis didn’t do enough either. He just stood in front of him a lot when Ayala dropped to his knee. Still should have been hit for stalling and it definitely could have changed the match but Davis needed to be a bit more aggressive. He didn’t start pushing the pace til way too late
AKA the PIAA Special ... except that stall comes even later in the 3rd and the guy hadn't done anything for most of the entire match.
It's not complete nonsense. Neither was the aggressor until Davis started pushing pace in the last 30 sec of the 3rd period.
That said, both Davis and the ref let Ayala get away with a Mason Beckman impersonation.
