it didn't take long for PSU to file their response. I'll post it below. You'll need to click on each page to enlarge it.
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PSU/Old Guard Trustee's Response to Alumni Trustees Filing
- Thread starter Tom McAndrew
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These guys don't walk to their jobs, they slither.
Here we go
TY Tom.
An appropriate response to the "University"'s response:
Of course, here in PA, we know that even an inane petition drafted in Crayon on Construction Paper could very well find a receptive listener on the Bench (how many years did the "There should be no issue with using Her Honor Balwdwin's testimony" petition run through the courts?)
Which judge does this go to? A real one, or a phony one?
Please! That's an insult to all snakes! This BOT is lower than whale shit and that lies at the bottom of the ocean.
After reading this response and others from PSU it's CLEAR AS DAY they are trying to hide something....why in the eff would they care if the TRUSTEES of the school could see the names of interviewees from a work product that belonged to PSU?? None of the freaking interviewees were promised confidentiality...it's beyond me why PSU keeps trying to argue that. It's simply NOT TRUE. Even if confidentiality was promised, the petitioner trustees would still have the right to see who said what since the school owns the work product.
They are trying to say that the the alum trustees aren't trust worthy to have information in which the court just ruled they are LEGALLY entitled to have, all based on some bull shit confidentiality agreement that never happened.. What a slap in the face. Guess what OG BOT, your opinion that the alum trustees aren't trustworthy enough to have access to who the interviewees were is moot since the court just ordered that they were.....shut up and give them the damned information already.
No no no...pesky alum trustees...only the folks in the OG BOT are allowed to see the names of the interviewees......what a bunch of B.S.....this is the crap PSU is wasting money fighting instead of going after freeh for concocting a B.S. report....the PA Superior Court just took a big crap on freeh's "reasonable conclusions" and that should be enough to call his ass back in to PSU and explain himself, who he interviewed, why he interviewed them, why he based his report on some interviewees (only the ones that had an axe to grind with Joe/PSU fb) and not others.
They are trying to say that the the alum trustees aren't trust worthy to have information in which the court just ruled they are LEGALLY entitled to have, all based on some bull shit confidentiality agreement that never happened.. What a slap in the face. Guess what OG BOT, your opinion that the alum trustees aren't trustworthy enough to have access to who the interviewees were is moot since the court just ordered that they were.....shut up and give them the damned information already.
No no no...pesky alum trustees...only the folks in the OG BOT are allowed to see the names of the interviewees......what a bunch of B.S.....this is the crap PSU is wasting money fighting instead of going after freeh for concocting a B.S. report....the PA Superior Court just took a big crap on freeh's "reasonable conclusions" and that should be enough to call his ass back in to PSU and explain himself, who he interviewed, why he interviewed them, why he based his report on some interviewees (only the ones that had an axe to grind with Joe/PSU fb) and not others.
This attorney is acting without the consent of the full board. How can he represent the University?
Yep.....
"We don't wanna' have to pay....because......um, er, uh.....because we don't want to."
Any more questions on why we NEED Larry Schultz (aka, perhaps better known as, demlion) on the BOT?
I may be wrong but I don't think they are still trying to get out of handing over the interviews. I think they are trying to get out of paying for all the fees that the elected alumni spent trying to gain access to this material which I find funny considering all the money they threw away without even asking a single question with regards to anything. Freeh, the "victims", the NCAA, ect
If you are an alum trustee (or, actually any trustee), reviewing the source documents for which the University expended 8 million dollars plus, which report then served as the foundation for $200 Million more in outlays, IS YOUR FIDUCIARY DUTY.
If that $8 mil was wasted and the $200 million was spent on a passel of falsehoods, that is the pressing business of each and every trustee. That the whole board never reviewed the report, yet acted so decisively using it as a basis, is deeply troubling. That they have spent even more University resources on this dubious attempt to keep the Alum Trustees from doing their fiduciary duty is also the pressing business of every fiduciary.
Even Bob92 is outraged, and we all know how slow to anger he is.
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Cruising Route 66
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Plaintiff's lawyers didn't need the Freeh report to establish a case against PSU. Do you actually believe that plaintiff's lawyers wouldn't have sued the university if the Freeh report was sympathetic to PSU and its administrators? For Christ's sake there were criminal indictments by the State Attorney General's Office of PSU administrators, investigations by the DOE, and the trial and conviction of Jerry Sandusky before the report was even issued. The Freeh report did little more than confirm what had already been established by other independent parties. If the dissidents wanted to sue someone, they should have sued Curley, Shultz, Spanier, and Sandusky in a civil action, not PSU for something that the Board determined wasn't pressing business.
Further, the dissidents were offered access to the names and responses of the more than 300 people interviewed by FSS if they would sign a confidentiality agreement. They refused and the court would later affirm PSU's position that a confidentiality agreement be signed before viewing the work product.
Spanier wasn't charged until after the Freeh Report, and the AG office pretty much cut & pasted the Freeh Report in the presentment against Spanier.
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I wouldn't invoke the name of Christ. I'd wager you and your misanthrope buddies have pissed him off enough,
Sorry, CR. It is laughable to suggest Freeh did not both drive the the settlements and vastly increase their value. Of course only one of us has been doing civil trial work for 30 years, and it ain't you. They handed over the keys. Then Freeh was used to attempt to ruin psu football, and your friends handed that over to a completely incapable NCAA on a silver platter as well. What is in that report is crucial to showing who sold us down the river and why. Our reps are entitled (and obligated) to know about it and they will know about it. Trying to hide it from them was a foolish waste of money by your friends who ought to reimburse the University they misled out of their own pockets.
Got any answers for my questions on your victim buddy Mark Dambly? When will you be testifying before the GJ?
Probably one that dresses and looks like this while going through their e-mail inbox:
Cruising, why do you continue making this claim? I've responded to you a few times about this, and indicated that your claims about this are inaccurate. For reasons that are a mystery to me, you continue to make a false claim.
Don't believe me? I'm not sure why not, but let's hear from a party to the negotiations and also a party to the lawsuit. Below is what you posted in November, and then a reply to you posted by Trustee Lubrano.
Regardless all that....why are you afraid to release the source documents even under the court's strict confidentiality?
Apparently it's lost on CR66 that when freeh was commissioned JS had only been indicted and not even convicted of anything yet (same with C/S). The OAG at the time even stated their dismay at how PSU treated Joe, one of their PROSECUTION WITNESSES, whom they said had been truthful and cooperative with them...also when commissioned, freeh was asked to find how the PSU failures occurred not IF any PSU failures occurred.....hmmm...that's quite presumptuous isn't it??
Now with the serious charges against the admins being quashed, freeh's conclusions (which he reached without subpoena power or talking with any of the key players mind you) don't even line up with what the PA judiciary is saying or what Fina himself said in the interview here he admitted he found no evidence of a cover up by Joe.....oopsies!!
The situation PSU finds itself in now is EXACTLY the reason why you wait for due process to run it's course before throwing your own employees and legendary coach under the bus and paying out tens of millions of dollars for settlements based on an inaccurate and incomplete report.
The OGBOT/Freeh/NCAA/Fina/Corbett/Baldwin/et al. are going to be in a world of hurt once all the lawsuits are done.
Now with the serious charges against the admins being quashed, freeh's conclusions (which he reached without subpoena power or talking with any of the key players mind you) don't even line up with what the PA judiciary is saying or what Fina himself said in the interview here he admitted he found no evidence of a cover up by Joe.....oopsies!!
The situation PSU finds itself in now is EXACTLY the reason why you wait for due process to run it's course before throwing your own employees and legendary coach under the bus and paying out tens of millions of dollars for settlements based on an inaccurate and incomplete report.
The OGBOT/Freeh/NCAA/Fina/Corbett/Baldwin/et al. are going to be in a world of hurt once all the lawsuits are done.
Now that CR has chimed in.....would be a good time for a reviewing of the "PSU Leadership/Hitler's Bunker" piece.
Who can post that?
Who can post that?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. PSU is arguing that they didn't want to give the alumni trustees full access to the Freeh files, but the judge ruled against PSU, but PSU believes the judge was wrong, so PSU doesn't want to pay alum trustees legal fees?
Posted in another thread but worth repeating......
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels
Many times people are over the top with comparisons to the Nazis but the Goebbels quote sums up the philosophy of the OG BoT. Substitute "university" for "state" and there you have it - minus the military angle of course. The OG has been using every possible means to shield the alumni and public from the political and economic consequences of the lie. The "Lubrano Rule" was one obvious tactic used to repress dissent. Truth is certainly the mortal enemy of the OG and slowly it seems the truth is being revealed. That's why all those seeking the truth are reviled by the OG.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels
Many times people are over the top with comparisons to the Nazis but the Goebbels quote sums up the philosophy of the OG BoT. Substitute "university" for "state" and there you have it - minus the military angle of course. The OG has been using every possible means to shield the alumni and public from the political and economic consequences of the lie. The "Lubrano Rule" was one obvious tactic used to repress dissent. Truth is certainly the mortal enemy of the OG and slowly it seems the truth is being revealed. That's why all those seeking the truth are reviled by the OG.
Didn't Barron just write a letter saying the opposite. We need to let due process through the courts run its course before honoring Joe, and even mentioning C/S/S?
I see. So your latest argument is that the BOT threw away $8.5mn on something that was utterly pointless.
