Question on game day ticket availability at MD stadium

[Split_T]

I’ll be arriving with a parking pass but without tickets. Do they allow the sale of tickets outside the stadium or in the parking areas? I know some municipalities and stadiums frown on the sale of tickets by individuals at their venues. So many tickets available on Stubhub I would hope to make a better deal at the stadium. If that fails I’ll use the Stubhub app near game time.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

I’ll be arriving with a parking pass but without tickets. Do they allow the sale of tickets outside the stadium or in the parking areas? I know some municipalities and stadiums frown on the sale of tickets by individuals at their venues. So many tickets available on Stubhub I would hope to make a better deal at the stadium. If that fails I’ll use the Stubhub app near game time.

It's become too easy for people to sell bogus tickets on the street these days given the electronic transferring process that most places have in place. For example, I have season tickets and I can sell them or transfer them electronically. As soon as I do, the bar code on my hard copy ticket becomes void. There is nothing to prevent me from doing that and showing up at the stadium and selling my (now void) hard ticket to a unsuspecting Pitt, OSU, or Michigan fan (nttiawwt-ha!) who will be turned away when they present the ticket at the gate.

For peace of mind, I would buy from stubhub even if I have to pay a "slight" premium beforehand.

 

[MaconNitt]

It's become too easy for people to sell bogus tickets on the street these days given the electronic transferring process that most places have in place. For example, I have season tickets and I can sell them or transfer them electronically. As soon as I do, the bar code on my hard copy ticket becomes void. There is nothing to prevent me from doing that and showing up at the stadium and selling my (now void) hard ticket to a unsuspecting Pitt, OSU, or Michigan fan (nttiawwt-ha!) who will be turned away when they present the ticket at the gate.

For peace of mind, I would buy from stubhub even if I have to pay a "slight" premium beforehand.

You mean other than your moral compass....besides you as the season ticket holder it would never be able to be traced back to you right

 

[step.eng69]

It's become too easy for people to sell bogus tickets on the street these days given the electronic transferring process that most places have in place. For example, I have season tickets and I can sell them or transfer them electronically. As soon as I do, the bar code on my hard copy ticket becomes void. There is nothing to prevent me from doing that and showing up at the stadium and selling my (now void) hard ticket to a unsuspecting Pitt, OSU, or Michigan fan (nttiawwt-ha!) who will be turned away when they present the ticket at the gate.

For peace of mind, I would buy from stubhub even if I have to pay a "slight" premium beforehand.

Really good advice.

 

[step.eng69]

You mean other than your moral compass....besides you as the season ticket holder it would never be able to be traced back to you right

No one is going to take the time to trace a few hundred tickets. That takes time and money...PSU is already paid for the tickets, shame on the someone that bought tickets already sold. Its been going on for decades...anybody go to jail yet?

 

[MaconNitt]

No one is going to take the time to trace a few hundred tickets. That takes time and money...PSU is already paid for the tickets, shame on the someone that bought tickets already sold. Its been going on for decades...anybody go to jail yet?

If the original bar code can be instantly voided they can certainly trace the hard copy back to the season ticket holder account without much time or cost. I never said you would go to jail. There may be some clause in the season ticket holder agreement fine print against selling hard tickets that you know have been voided. Repeatingly abusing the system may result in loss of future season ticket holder privileges. Beside it being the wrong thing to do.

 

[NittanyLion15]

If the original bar code can be instantly voided they can certainly trace the hard copy back to the season ticket holder account without much time or cost. I never said you would go to jail. There may be some clause in the season ticket holder agreement fine print against selling hard tickets that you know have been voided. Repeatingly abusing the system may result in loss of future season ticket holder privileges. Beside it being the wrong thing to do.

Good call MaconNitt

I doubt Penn State would take legal action, but I wouldn't be surprised if the account associated with the duplicated tickets was examined, and it would not be hard for them to put two and two together. If anyone tried to do what the OP suggested, the scan of both stubs would certainly flag the season ticket holders account.

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[Dave-97]

They cant get parking right, I'd hate to see them as investigators!!

 

[Split_T]

It's become too easy for people to sell bogus tickets on the street these days given the electronic transferring process that most places have in place. For example, I have season tickets and I can sell them or transfer them electronically. As soon as I do, the bar code on my hard copy ticket becomes void. There is nothing to prevent me from doing that and showing up at the stadium and selling my (now void) hard ticket to a unsuspecting Pitt, OSU, or Michigan fan (nttiawwt-ha!) who will be turned away when they present the ticket at the gate.

For peace of mind, I would buy from stubhub even if I have to pay a "slight" premium beforehand.

Thanks for your advice. I'm also a PSU season ticket holder and am aware of the potential pitfalls of forged tickets. However my question was never answered, and you did steer this thread away from my original question. Anyone have an answer for me?

 

[HburgLion13]

Thanks for your advice. I'm also a PSU season ticket holder and am aware of the potential pitfalls of forged tickets. However my question was never answered, and you did steer this thread away from my original question. Anyone have an answer for me?

I bought tickets in the parking lot when we played there two years ago. Seemed to be in good supply and easy to find. Not sure if any policies have changed.

 

[Split_T]

I bought tickets in the parking lot when we played there two years ago. Seemed to be in good supply and easy to find. Not sure if any policies have changed.

Thanks