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Quick thoughts and concerns

Hall will be fine, he just wrestled a stupid match. He got caught up in the moment and was trying to hit something sneaky. Should of kept some space and worked from outside. Joseph needs a better gas tank and needs some technique from top, he wants to muscle kids like he did in high school. MM will not be AA, just can't score enough.Tries to score from counters, doesn't work in college. Suriano will be good tournament wrestler, big motor and doesn't get out of position. Gulibon would sure be better off at 133. Come tournament time, Nolf and Retherford will be champs. Nickel will score a ton of points and hopefully catch Dean in something crazy on a scramble. Team title will be 3 team race PSU ,Ok St.and be careful of Ohio St.

I-Mar has made a living off of scoring off counters and impenetrable defense. MyMart is exclusively a "counter" wrestler - backs up continuously more than any wrestler since that guy from Okie State... However, this bull$hit would never float in Free and ONLY works in Folk, but is supposed to be penalized (i.e., if a wrestler is not carrying 50% of the attacks - especially lower leg attacks - while the other wrestler is constantly attacking, the other wrestler is supposed to be rung-up for stalling). Mouse's problem is not that he looks to counter - it's that he is not super active offensively, especially if his opponent is content to just dance around in tie-ups, but even when he does shot, it is almost always to the lower-leg and ankle area where he quickly gets stuck and neutralized due to his lack of length at 97 (opponent typically immediately engages a scramble by going over the top for an ankle-grab).

In any event, you can't just declare the problem to be that MM doesn't have a varied enough attack from neutral.....that's what separates the "elite" wrestlers from everybody else, especially in Free (i.e., they can take you to the mat in any number of ways - i.e., incredible offensive wrestlers from neutral, but are still incredible defensive wrestlers and don't give up a lot despite being extremely dangerous offensively). IMHO, Mouse is never going to be a dominating wrestler because he is a "grinder" and needs to keep it close and hope it comes down to the 3rd period, which is what makes engaging in "scrambles" in the 2nd period like he did extremely dangerous even though he was leading 3-1 at the time and in great position to win the match. He exposed his own back by engaging in the scramble the way he did and it was a bad decision given the amount of length he typically gives up.....he should have abandoned the ankle and sought the safety of bellying out rather than risk everything as he did.
 
The 141wrestler was AA at 133 . The 197 wrestler was 9-1 in 1 point bouts against many average college wrestlers. That will not be the case against better talent. Once again I reiterate that the term holes references the team situation, not the individual wrestler. I met Mac a few years ago along with his father at a tournament and found them to be good people. It's a huge difference to compete at 197 compared to 184 at his height. Just the facts.
 
The 141wrestler was AA at 133 . The 197 wrestler was 9-1 in 1 point bouts against many average college wrestlers. That will not be the case against better talent. Once again I reiterate that the term holes references the team situation, not the individual wrestler. I met Mac a few years ago along with his father at a tournament and found them to be good people. It's a huge difference to compete at 197 compared to 184 at his height. Just the facts.
Your perception is that the reference is non offensive. I am here to tell you it is. A test is ask yourself this. When you met McCutcheon and his father, while talking with them would you have ask either what they thought of Matt being a hole in the lineup? If that is a question you would be comfortable asking either I would be amazed.

With that said. Matt is finishing 3 through 6. Using your criteria he doesn't even meet the definition and you still refer to him as a "hole".

What he accomplishes at Nationals is to be determined and top 8 is certainly doable.
 
The scheduling "model" is fixed. Unless they (the B1G) go to a 10th conference match, our home/away schedule in the future is known. In 3 years, our schedule (x-tOSU) will be identical to this years. Next year at home is Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana, and Purdue. Our rivalry team (who we wrestle every year) is tOSU, and they'll be at our place. The year after that is Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan State and Michigan.
If Nick Nevills gets on a GREAT weight lifting program for his entire body he will be hard to stop next year !!!! Snyder may beat him but it won't be easy....
 
Your perception is that the reference is non offensive. I am here to tell you it is. A test is ask yourself this. When you met McCutcheon and his father, while talking with them would you have ask either what they thought of Matt being a hole in the lineup? If that is a question you would be comfortable asking either I would be amazed.

With that said. Matt is finishing 3 through 6. Using your criteria he doesn't even meet the definition and you still refer to him as a "hole".

What he accomplishes at Nationals is to be determined and top 8 is certainly doable.

Agree with you, but I would label Matt's chances as decent at AA'ing between 4-8, but not very good at making the finals of either the Champ or Consi brackets.
 
Obviously I would not describe to any parent, and use the term hole to describe their child's effect on the team. I coached at many levels and many sports and had to describe the the reason a child was not getting specific playing time. Typically it was talent related although sometimes it was discipline. I had no problem doing it. When I ran a travel b-ball league with 240 participants, I would get numerous complaints about numerous situations. My response was typically,"It is not a mandate that your child play basketball." Opinion is part of sports and real life.
 
Obviously I would not describe to any parent, and use the term hole to describe their child's effect on the team. I coached at many levels and many sports and had to describe the the reason a child was not getting specific playing time. Typically it was talent related although sometimes it was discipline. I had no problem doing it. When I ran a travel b-ball league with 240 participants, I would get numerous complaints about numerous situations. My response was typically,"It is not a mandate that your child play basketball." Opinion is part of sports and real life.
If you wouldn't say it to a parent, why would you say it to us.
 
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If Nick Nevills gets on a GREAT weight lifting program for his entire body he will be hard to stop next year !!!! Snyder may beat him but it won't be easy....
As opposed to the mediocre or piss-poor weight lifting program he's been on?

I shouldn't bust too hard ... this was some welcome comic relief compared to a lot of this weekend's posts.
 
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To prove the term hole is not meant to be against an individual. I'll post this: Yesterday at Northeast Regionals, Nazareth crowned 6 champions but lost to Beca in the team race do to the fact they had more holes in their lineup. Nazareth advanced 6 ,Beca advanced 10 to states. A note, if anyone can find video of the Labriola final bout watch it, it was brutal. First period he slammed the kid twice.
 
If Nick Nevills gets on a GREAT weight lifting program for his entire body he will be hard to stop next year !!!! Snyder may beat him but it won't be easy....

Please stop with the nonsense. Nick's not beating the World Champ. Get used to it.
 
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Using your Beca logic, 141 and 197 are not holes because they did advance to "states" or....The NCAA Championships. No hole in a lineup ever did that. Not ever.

Both 197 and 141 beat AA contenders this very year. That 197 does it by one or two points is irrelevant. Or maybe you have never heard of Kellen Russell.
 
To prove the term hole is not meant to be against an individual. I'll post this: Yesterday at Northeast Regionals, Nazareth crowned 6 champions but lost to Beca in the team race do to the fact they had more holes in their lineup. Nazareth advanced 6 ,Beca advanced 10 to states. A note, if anyone can find video of the Labriola final bout watch it, it was brutal. First period he slammed the kid twice.
The fact you recognize it would be inappropriate to say it to his father or him is indicative you understand it is offensive. The rest is rationalization.
 
Let's get this straight. I'm a parent of 2 wonderful girls. One graduated from college in 3 years and works with paralyzed trauma victims and the other is a senior in college with the an opportunity to be hired by a national organization in criminal justice. I did fine as a parent. As far as my outlook on youth sports , from coaching a girls youth team that went 42-3 over 3 years and playing all the kids the same amount of time unless they were not hustling. My daughter was the best player and probably played less than the 10 best player because we would beat teams so bad. I managed an Babe Ruth all-star team that made it to states and played every one. About 12 years ago I sat on the board of local little league organization, I resigned after getting into a heated disagreement with the board and coaches because they were reducing the roster size. The coaches didn't want to deal with mandatory play rules. The year that I stepped down 38 children were cut where as if they kept the roster the same size 16 more kids would have played. It was wrong. The League disbanded yeast year because of lack of numbers.
Don't think I'm a jerk because I used the term hole. This is only sports! If you people would deal in my occupation you would understand why I think this way.
Would the term "void" work better.
 
Let's get this straight. I'm a parent of 2 wonderful girls. One graduated from college in 3 years and works with paralyzed trauma victims and the other is a senior in college with the an opportunity to be hired by a national organization in criminal justice. I did fine as a parent. As far as my outlook on youth sports , from coaching a girls youth team that went 42-3 over 3 years and playing all the kids the same amount of time unless they were not hustling. My daughter was the best player and probably played less than the 10 best player because we would beat teams so bad. I managed an Babe Ruth all-star team that made it to states and played every one. About 12 years ago I sat on the board of local little league organization, I resigned after getting into a heated disagreement with the board and coaches because they were reducing the roster size. The coaches didn't want to deal with mandatory play rules. The year that I stepped down 38 children were cut where as if they kept the roster the same size 16 more kids would have played. It was wrong. The League disbanded yeast year because of lack of numbers.
Don't think I'm a jerk because I used the term hole. This is only sports! If you people would deal in my occupation you would understand why I think this way.
Would the term "void" work better.


Feel better about yourself now? lol
 
No where on this forum did I past judgement on athlete persona or a poster with the exception of Spyker. I get trashed for using the term "hole" to describe the team situation. You're the same guy that trashes the Beca high school wrestlers. Those kids are 15-18 year's old. What does that say about you.?
 
Oh god. This nonsense again? I doubt you'll be back to this board in two weeks when PSU wins the title. Actually, I guarantee you won't be back to this board when that happens.

Ohio State is stronger physically, so, that's a credit to their program. I cannot imagine those four kids, cutting all that weight, are in any way happy, though. Win at all costs.
 
In another thread you claim PSU will not win it and now you say "I believe we will find a way". You are a classic throw so many different statements out it's not possible to be wrong - lol.
As opposed to you, who throws nothing out and then piles on and jumps on. That is even more classic.
 
As opposed to you, who throws nothing out and then piles on and jumps on. That is even more classic.
You really are a child. How old are you for Pete's sake. You are so foolishly wrong so many times and when someone points it out you cry about it. You make this forum a pain to follow. Welcome to ignore. proceed with your next childish comment. Sad thing is you think it's everyone else who has an issue - lol
 
You really are a child. How old are you for Pete's sake. You are so foolishly wrong so many times and when someone points it out you cry about it. You make this forum a pain to follow. Welcome to ignore. proceed with your next childish comment. Sad thing is you think it's everyone else who has an issue - lol

You attacked, and you piled on. Only child I see here is you.
 
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