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Raise the Hammer and Sickle!

michnittlion

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The Reds move to 4-0 against the PiRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRates in 2015, as the epic battle for 3rd place in the NL Central continues.
 
The Reds move to 4-0 against the PiRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRates in 2015, as the epic battle for 3rd place in the NL Central continues.
I wish I could say I am surprised. I keep telling myself it's early, but this is looking more and more like a lost season.
 
I wish I could say I am surprised. I keep telling myself it's early, but this is looking more and more like a lost season.
They're toast. Not due to the record at this point. They are just not very good.
 
StL winning tonight (so what else is new). 8 back in the loss column.

Against NL Central teams not from Milwaukee, Pirates are 3-11. Against all teams with a winning record, they're 4-13.

Stick a fork in the Bucs. They're done.
 
Ummm.........there are 136 games left. Stick a fork in them?

Yep!

I just hope that shut McCutchen down now and get his knee fixed so they don't waste this season and next.

They are done as far as winning the division and the second wildcard spot isn't worth it.

Get McCutchen healthy now (surgery is needed), bring up the young arms this summer to take their beating, figure out what you have if anything in Lambo, Tony Sanchez the catcher and possibly Harrison and play to be strong in 2016. They need a few more pieces (3B, C and 1B) and which means they'll need to spend $$$ to get over the top but you need a 100% McCutchen in the middle of it.
 
Ummm.........there are 136 games left. Stick a fork in them?
Anything can happen, but this team just looks out of whack. If we don't get "in whack" over the next 5 games, it's going to be tough to recover.
 
There is a lot of mediocrity in the NL right now among teams not in first place. The division doesn't look good but they're not out of anything when it comes to the wild card.
 
Yep!

I just hope that shut McCutchen down now and get his knee fixed so they don't waste this season and next.

They are done as far as winning the division and the second wildcard spot isn't worth it.

Get McCutchen healthy now (surgery is needed), bring up the young arms this summer to take their beating, figure out what you have if anything in Lambo, Tony Sanchez the catcher and possibly Harrison and play to be strong in 2016. They need a few more pieces (3B, C and 1B) and which means they'll need to spend $$$ to get over the top but you need a 100% McCutchen in the middle of it.
The SF Giants may disagree on this one.
 
The SF Giants may disagree on this one.

Yeah ---- I will be honest, I HATE the wildcards, ESPECIALLY the second wildcard.

Our divisional winners are likely the Nationals, Cardinals, and Dodgers.

Other than that, eh, it will just be which 2 teams are good enough to push across to 85 wins. Seriously, 85-77 isn't that good, but that's all you really have to do anymore to make the postseason.

Honestly, even clearly non-elite teams like Pittsburgh and Cincinnati ---- I can see scenarios where they COULD get to 85 wins. I guess the 2nd wildcard does keep things interesting for us for quite awhile.
 
Yeah ---- I will be honest, I HATE the wildcards, ESPECIALLY the second wildcard.

Our divisional winners are likely the Nationals, Cardinals, and Dodgers.

Other than that, eh, it will just be which 2 teams are good enough to push across to 85 wins. Seriously, 85-77 isn't that good, but that's all you really have to do anymore to make the postseason.

Honestly, even clearly non-elite teams like Pittsburgh and Cincinnati ---- I can see scenarios where they COULD get to 85 wins. I guess the 2nd wildcard does keep things interesting for us for quite awhile.
Being somewhat of a baseball purist, I have to agree on the wildcard thing.
 
The SF Giants may disagree on this one.

Nits74 - Great point! Well taken.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if McCutchen is not 100% healthy why risk the problem becoming more serious when he could pull up now and get started on recovery. If the real upside is just a second wildcard spot is it really worth it especially if it means he may not be healthy in 2016.

I realize there is a long season yet to go and perhaps the Pirates do have higher upside but I'm just not seeing it at this point in the season and I would hate to dilute McCutchen's talent since he will only be with the Bucs in his prime a short while.
 
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