Ray Blehar....MM caught in lie?
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There may be NCAA policy and PSU policy but there is also the right thing.
Only someone as stupid as you would think the former trumps the latter.
It is absurd that anyone is arguing that it does. Cleary and other laws define the minimum required response, which Joe clearly met.
Policies & laws cannot prevent a citizen from doing more.
Should have gone.
And the mandated reporter who queried MM disagrees. What are your credentials again?
That mandatory reporter admits to mike referring to sexual sounds and being extremely distraught. In short, that mandatory reporter either doesn’t understand his duties and/or needs to be retrained.
Instead, maybe that mandated reporter is just a bad guy who didn’t give a shit about child sexual abuse. In fact MM’s dad and mom, Curley, Schultz and Spanier probably all were bad people that didn’t give a shit about child sexual abuse either. Such a tragic coincidence that so many bad people like that were all involved on the front end of this scandal. Almost seems impossible to believe...
What a dumbass you are.
He's a mandated reporter who's repeated testimony has been that whatever MM witnessed didn't rise to the level of a police report.
What are your credentials?
By the same token, if you tell five different people a story on three different occasions, and not one of them says, "Call the police!", what is the likelihood that you remotely communicated the possibility of a crime to them?
The answer is simple, easy and incredibly more probable than your flawed premise.
The flaw in your incredibly weak position is the premise that a crime was witnessed and a crime was communicated to others. McQ Sr and Dranov testified to the fact that what they were told did not warrant a call to police. Paterno had no idea what you'd call it, but a crime was not one of the possibilities he ever expressed. All Curley and Schultz concluded after speaking with McQ is possibly horseplay. Add to that that V2 said it was horselplay. Yes, the actual victim himself said MikeMcQ did not witness a sex act or sexual abuse.
Apparently MM & Raykovitz didn't give a shit about child sexual abuse either. Same for CMHS.
Come to think of it there were a lot of bad people that didn't give a shit about child sexual abuse. CYS kept approving Sandusky adoptions. Seastock, Lauro, etc. Even Alycia Chambers did the minimum. Shreffler did nothing with Chamber's report. So many bad people. You're right, it seems almost impossible to believe.
Yep they all have to be bad people cause we know MM would not lie.
Yep. It took a Mensa like jive to see through that unfathomable coincidence and get to the truth...
Ask @Connorpozlee if what the Dr testified to have heard from MM should have been reported as a mandatory reporter. I believe that is one thing he agrees with me on.
The ignored one you are most likely talking about is "getmyjizz" who has been on my personal scrap heap for months. He, and his ilk, remind me of the old Talking GI Joe Doll that barked out simple-minded phrases dependending on how far you pulled out the string that was attached to his dog tag. Here is some nostalgia for you...
I don’t remember exactly what he testified to. If somebody could refresh my memory, that would be great. Off the top of my head I’m not sure that I would say that he should have S opposed to saying that he could have.
I will say this as I have all along: If you have a reasonable belief that a child is in danger of being or has been abused (physically, emotionally, sexually) or neglected then it is within your rights to make a call to your state’s social services agency. It is my belief that it is always better to err on the side of making the call then not making it. If the information you provide does not meet criteria for investigation, then no harm done.
He said that MM told him he heard sexual sounds when he walked in. Then he saw Jerry and the boy alone in the shower. Then the Dr asked three times what he saw them doing but MM was too distraught to answer each time.
Do you think it is reasonable as a mandatory reporter to make a report with that info?
You are such a deep thinker Jive. You still haven't responded to @JmmyW question of whether you believe that the Penn State policy in 2001 on reporting protocol applies to an unknown victim. If it does, then there would be a problem if Paterno reported possible sexual assault to Police because that would run counter to the policy cited. According to that protocol, Paterno reporting what MM related to him to University authorities (Schultz and Curley) was the appropriate route to go.
He apparently felt that there was no need for anyone under him to make a report. How did that work out for him? Better yet, how did that work out for the university that he was to "Protect and Serve"?
I would not necessarily take that information you just gave me and make a referral. I would need to clarify quite a bit.
What sexual sounds did you hear? What did you see Jerry and the boy doing in the shower? We’re they taking a shower? We’re they touching each other? Etc.....
Honestly- and I think I’ve said this to you before- I couldn’t really make a call to social services based off of the information that McQueary could have given me. Even if he said, “I saw Jerry Sandusky having anal sex in the showers at the Lasch building with an approximately 20 year old boy.” Without any demographic information (name, address,etc...) the call wouldn’t serve any purpose at all. The call to be made would be to police because while you don’t have the name of the child, you do know the perpetrator.
Gonna be EPIC!!!!!!
This will totally turn around all of the negativity immediately!!!!
The holy trinity of Zig/Blehar/Snedden cannot fail.
BTW, I have this bridge in one of the New York boroughs for sale or lease. I'm sure you would be interested in making an investment.
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Sure thing. Watch the Sandusky/Costas interview if you want to see why she told him not to go to the media.
You're reading way too much into something that any prosecutor would tell a witness.
I agree with you totally just would add knowing how CYS held Sandusky in high esteem not sure the phone call would of stopped anything
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