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Ray Blehar....MM caught in lie?

A serial pedo would mean "one who likes children repeatedly." Which is almost nonsensical, but also not a crime, therefore you cannot have victims of a pedo, unless the pedo is also a pederast.

I'm sure your English 15 TA is weeping.
That serial pedo has you all in knots.
 
It would have been totally inappropriate for Joe to have involved himself any more than he did. He saw and heard nothing. He had no authority over or responsibility for Jerry. It was in the hands of Curley and Schultz. They interviewed the witness and involved the president of the university, who approved the course of action ultimately taken. Joe followed up with Mike (his direct report), who expressed no displeasure with how the administrators handled the matter. He had no reason to believe they had fumbled the ball, which they did not.
He could have called the police or instructed MM to call the police. It’s not hard.
 
They say that Joe should have grabbed little Mikey McQueary by the ear and dragged him to the police station, then insist that he sit in while he gave his report.

On the other hand MM is a hero and JM/Dranov didn't do anything wrong.
First, that would not be NCAA protocol. Second, he did just that in making sure the person over PSU police was notified. Third, there is no greater probability that anything would have happened had Joe tracked down the local meter maid, the beat cop, called 9-11, called the HV chief of Police, the state police, or Tom Corbett.
 
That’s such a rabbit hole.
He did exactly what he should have. Exactly. As we’ve discussed before, in my role as a social worker I would have shaken his hand and said thanks for doing exactly what he should have done.
I’m sorry, but this is not a typical case. He knew much more about the serial pedo including the fact that he had unique access to children through his charity. Joe did the minimum and when the minimum failed, he didn’t care enough to even inquire as to what was going on. Shake his hand if you want, but Joe showed a gross lack of caring.
 
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When you start calling out pnny and franco in the same manner or those obsessed that share your opinion...I might consider your opinion as being objective, but it sure doesn't seem to be. Basically people here want to mute him because he doesn't share a loud minorities opinion on this site...it's pretty damn clear.

BTW, he does post on football related subjects, but not as much on this site as this site is more of an off topic site to be honest. It has turned into a Jerry/OT board with the Judge doing the heavy lifting on recruting. Like I said when you call out others who post just as much but on the opposite side of the spectrum, let me know. Start with pnny,,,,kidding there as nobody gives a flying f--k what that nut says anyway.
If this site isn't meeting your recommended daily requirement of posts about recruits and on-topic subjects, perhaps you should leave and hang out on a board that does. Few people here will miss your input on any subject.
 
He could have called the police or instructed MM to call the police. It’s not hard.
Again, as could Mike, his father, his father’s friend, Curley, Schultz, Raykovitz..... but none did. None of them, most importantly including the witness, acted in a way that makes it seem like somebody witnessed Sandusky engaging in sexual with a child.
 
He could have called the police or instructed MM to call the police. It’s not hard.

he did and he did. he got Schultz involved, he was the head of campus security and the guy who was informed in any other major on campus flair up.

If you are suggesting he or MM call 9-1-1, how can you feel any more confident anything different would have happened?

Finally, if not 9-1-1 then who? Tom Corbett?

Besides....Joe followed PSU and, after three years of investigations, the NCAA brand spanking new guidelines on what a coach should do.
 
12 pages on somebody named Ray Blehar! I hope he plays right tackle, he must be important!
 
I don't ignore testimony at all. I evaluate testimony as well as evaluating how a jury processes said testimony. You apparently take all testimony at face value and assume that all juries reach proper verdicts.
You apparently reject the testimony of all the victims who took the stand in court. Again, that’s your problem.
 
I’m sorry, but this is not a typical case. He knew much more about the serial pedo including the fact that he had unique access to children through his charity. Joe did the minimum and when the minimum failed, he didn’t care enough to even inquire as to what was going on. Shake his hand if you want, but Joe showed a gross lack of caring.

There is no minimum. There is either did or did not. Joe did.
You are being purposefully ignorant to state that Joe showed a gross lack of caring. I don’t think that you believe that one bit.
 
he did and he did. he got Schultz involved, he was the head of campus security and the guy who was informed in any other major on campus flair up.

If you are suggesting he or MM call 9-1-1, how can you feel any more confident anything different would have happened?

Finally, if not 9-1-1 then who? Tom Corbett?
He should have went to campus police. Tom Harmon was the correct person to talk to, not a financial head.
 
He used it correctly. Most people do view pedophiles as POS. And one does not have to act
on their urges physically to be convicted of a crime. Possession of child pornography can get
a pedophile sent to the slammer. You obviously aren't nearly as bright as you believe.
Listen, Wally, none of us needs to be lectured about morality by a loser who bought a mail order bride from Asia.

Since you mentioned child pornography, how much did they find on Sandusky?
 
There is no minimum. There is either did or did not. Joe did.
You are being purposefully ignorant to state that Joe showed a gross lack of caring. I don’t think that you believe that one bit.
There is a minimum when the “did” results in nor report to police/the DPW. I absolutely believe that Joe simply didn’t care about it and did just enough to cover his own ass. Or so he thought.
 
He should have went to campus police. Tom Harmon was the correct person to talk to, not a financial head.

Who was Tom Harmon's boss? Why do you believe reporting it to Tom Harmon would have yielded any different results than Schultz. Are you just grasping at straws? You sound like the guy complaining that the DC called a blitz and not a cover two. You have no idea what would have happened.
 
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There is a minimum when the “did” results in nor report to police/the DPW. I absolutely believe that Joe simply didn’t care about it and did just enough to cover his own ass. Or so he thought.

incorrect. No minimum. He took the report to the people who are responsible for handling these matters. He did his part, as he should have and as the NCAA now says all others in an identical position should do as well.
And I believe you are lying about Joe just covering his ass. You’re becoming disingenuous.
 
Who was Tom Harmon's boss? Why do you believe reporting it to Tom Harmon would have yielded any different results than Schultz. Are you just grasping at straws? You sound like the guy complaining that the DC called a blitz and not a cover two. You have no idea what would have happened.
Because Tom Harmon is the police and Gary Schultz isn’t. It’s that simple.
 
I started reading updates to this thread about an hour ago. I started on page 9. Since there were so many holes in the comments, I had to take everyone's favorite troll off of ignore. You have to do that every page, and guess what I discovered?

In the hour and couple of minutes it took me to read about 140 posts, Mr. Jive's post count went up by 16 posts. All in this thread. So this asshat is contributing nearly 12% of the posts in this thread, at a rate of 15 posts an hour. Obsessed much, assclown? I hope you contribute more to society outside this board than you do here, but somehow I doubt it.

P. S. In the time it took me to compose this post, 3 more from you know who went up.
 
incorrect. No minimum. He took the report to the people who are responsible for handling these matters. He did his part, as he should have and as the NCAA now says all others in an identical position should do as well.
And I believe you are lying about Joe just covering his ass. You’re becoming disingenuous.
How is it a lie? It’s what I believe he did. That is my opinion. Joe could have EASILY done more.
 
I started reading updates to this thread about an hour ago. I started on page 9. Since there were so many holes in the comments, I had to take everyone's favorite troll off of ignore. You have to do that every page, and guess what I discovered?

In the hour and couple of minutes it took me to read about 140 posts, Mr. Jive's post count went up by 16 posts. All in this thread. So this asshat is contributing nearly 12% of the posts in this thread, at a rate of 15 posts an hour. Obsessed much, assclown? I hope you contribute more to society outside this board than you do here, but somehow I doubt it.

P. S. In the time it took me to compose this post, 3 more from you know who went up.
I can type 16 posts in just a couple of minutes.
 
Pardon me, it was poorly worded. I believe that you are lying that think Joe was just covering his ass.
Oh no, that is what I truly believe. I believe he wanted to do what was required and then not deal with the situation again. Just look at his response to Scott when the GJP leaked. He seemingly did not care.
 
Oh no, that is what I truly believe. I believe he wanted to do what was required and then not deal with the situation again. Just look at his response to Scott when the GJP leaked. He seemingly did not care.

You can continue to say it. I still don’t think you really believe it. You’re being disingenuous.
 
He could have called the police or instructed MM to call the police. It’s not hard.

Do you find the following summary of university procedure potentially confusing with regard to the situation Paterno was presented with, especially with an unknown victim?

Although the University strongly encourages all members of its community to report violations of this [sexual assault] policy to law enforcement, it is the victim’s choice whether or not to make such a report, and victims have the right to decline involvement with the police.


Wouldn't it be nice to learn whether Paterno ever discussed contacting police with McQueary? At least then we'd know if the topic ever came up and what he said about it. Too bad the prosecutor objected to the question when McQueary was asked in court.

Q: In all of the conversations, meetings you've had with Coach Paterno since that first time you talked to him about this incident, he never said the police should have been called?

MR. BEEMER: Objection to the relevance of what Coach Paterno said should have been done.

THE COURT: Sustained.
 
You can continue to say it. I still don’t think you really believe it. You’re being disingenuous.
Well look, I guess I cannot convince you otherwise, but I have long thought this. My view of this scandal has not changed since mid 2012.
 
Do you find the following summary of university procedure potentially confusing with regard to the situation Paterno was presented with, especially with an unknown victim?

Although the University strongly encourages all members of its community to report violations of this [sexual assault] policy to law enforcement, it is the victim’s choice whether or not to make such a report, and victims have the right to decline involvement with the police.


Wouldn't it be nice to learn whether Paterno ever discussed contacting police with McQueary? At least then we'd know if the topic ever came up and what he said about it. Too bad the prosecutor objected to the question when McQueary was asked in court.

Q: In all of the conversations, meetings you've had with Coach Paterno since that first time you talked to him about this incident, he never said the police should have been called?

MR. BEEMER: Objection to the relevance of what Coach Paterno said should have been done.

THE COURT: Sustained.



GJP bullshit with no cross examination
 
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Do you find the following summary of university procedure potentially confusing with regard to the situation Paterno was presented with, especially with an unknown victim?

Although the University strongly encourages all members of its community to report violations of this [sexual assault] policy to law enforcement, it is the victim’s choice whether or not to make such a report, and victims have the right to decline involvement with the police.


Wouldn't it be nice to learn whether Paterno ever discussed contacting police with McQueary? At least then we'd know if the topic ever came up and what he said about it. Too bad the prosecutor objected to the question when McQueary was asked in court.

Q: In all of the conversations, meetings you've had with Coach Paterno since that first time you talked to him about this incident, he never said the police should have been called?

MR. BEEMER: Objection to the relevance of what Coach Paterno said should have been done.

THE COURT: Sustained.
I don’t see anything there preventing Joe or Mike to go to police.
 
I can type 16 posts in just a couple of minutes.
So can a chimpanzee. The difference is his would be legible sentences that make sense. He would also show that he was able to read and comprehend the post he was responding to, unlike you, assclown.
 
He could have called the police or instructed MM to call the police. It’s not hard.

He should have went to campus police. Tom Harmon was the correct person to talk to, not a financial head.

Jive. You seem to be an expert on proper reporting procedures.

As a witness for the prosecution, Jack Raykovitz testified under oath that he was the proper legal authority for CMHS to report any possible transgressions Jerry Sandusky may have inflicted or committed against any minors. The prosecution accepted that statement. How do you justify that?
 
Jive. You seem to be an expert on proper reporting procedures.

As a witness for the prosecution, Jack Raykovitz testified under oath that he was the proper legal authority for CMHS to report any possible transgressions Jerry Sandusky may have inflicted or committed against any minors. The prosecution accepted that statement. How do you justify that?
Why should I have to? I have long said that Jack should have been nailed. I’m not going to defend something when I think it’s wrong.
 
Jive. You seem to be an expert on proper reporting procedures.

As a witness for the prosecution, Jack Raykovitz testified under oath that he was the proper legal authority for CMHS to report any possible transgressions Jerry Sandusky may have inflicted or committed against any minors. The prosecution accepted that statement. How do you justify that?

wait .... is that true? i hadnt heard that before
 
Well look, I guess I cannot convince you otherwise, but I have long thought this. My view of this scandal has not changed since mid 2012.

If you have put a lot of thought into this since 2012 and your view has not changed at all, you have missed a great opportunity to think just a little beyond the surface. Sorry to read this from you.
 
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