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The fix is in for OSU and Mich to play in the final, set for optimum TV ratings, worst case for PSU, this solidifies the two-team conference and everyone else, Somehow, these two need to lose in the playoff,
 
The fix is in for OSU and Mich to play in the final, set for optimum TV ratings, worst case for PSU, this solidifies the two-team conference and everyone else, Somehow, these two need to lose in the playoff,
Whether or not Michigan and OSU win or lose in the playoffs has little to no bearing on the future success of PSU. We need to win and start making playoff appearances, end of story. Looking for other teams to fail in order to improve our standing is a losers mentality.
 
Whether or not Michigan and OSU win or lose in the playoffs has little to no bearing on the future success of PSU. We need to win and start making playoff appearances, end of story. Looking for other teams to fail in order to improve our standing is a losers mentality.
I think he’s talking about from a recruiting standpoint. No way does OSU and Michigan winning big help our recruiting. We already face an uphill battle recruiting against these two teams, further success on their part makes it more difficult.
 
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I think he’s talking about from a recruiting standpoint. No way does OSU and Michigan winning big help our recruiting. We already face an uphill battle recruiting against these two teams, further success on their part makes it more difficult.
They are already in the college football playoffs. Win or lose, they already have the advantage of being able to argue that they made the CFP. IMO, if you think our recruiting pitch to a recruit becomes any better if we can say "but they lost," you are kidding yourself. If a recruit is going to choose between Michigan, OSU and PSU based on this years results, we already lost that battle. I believe PSU has to convey a positive message to recruits by arguing that PSU has just as good of a chance to make it to the playoffs next year.
 
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And honestly both in is good for our recruiting. I get the whole BIG success doesn’t matter for us argument but this is different. It shows the BIG gets respect (and proves it) in that it shows we don’t have to be perfect to make playoff
 
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The fix is in for OSU and Mich to play in the final, set for optimum TV ratings, worst case for PSU, this solidifies the two-team conference and everyone else, Somehow, these two need to lose in the playoff,

My main interest in this playoff is to root against the Sacred Two.

Georgia is favored by a touchdown, while Michigan is about the same over TCU. So Vegas sees a Bulldog-Wolverine final. We'll see.

But if, God forbid, both Ohio State and Michigan win their opening-round games, I may not even watch the final...or if I do, it will be with the sound turned down.

I mean, the media slobbering that surrounded the game in Columbus was beyond human endurance. Can you imagine how bad it will be if they make it to the championship game of college football?
 
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My main interest in this playoff is to root against the Sacred Two.

Georgia is favored by a touchdown, while Michigan is about the same over TCU. So Vegas sees a Bulldog-Wolverine final. We'll see.

But if, God forbid, both Ohio State and Michigan win their opening-round games, I may not even watch the final...or if I do, it will be with the sound turned down.

I mean, the media slobbering that surrounded the game in Columbus was beyond human endurance. Can you imagine how bad it will be if they make it to the championship game of college football?
You do realize that's the media's job, right? To sell rivalries?
 
I expect Georgia and Michigan to settle things on the field.

Honestly, I would be happy to see a UM/OSU rematch in the finals. A little tired of the SEC being thought of as this preeminent conference.
 
Don’t be surprised if they both get knocked out. TCU is tough and can score. QB is tops. Georgia is Georgia and O$U is soft along the LOS.
TCU has no business being in and they will get their asses handed to them.
 
They are already in the college football playoffs. Win or lose, they already have the advantage of being able to argue that they made the CFP. IMO, if you think our recruiting pitch to a recruit becomes any better if we can say "but they lost," you are kidding yourself. If a recruit is going to choose between Michigan, OSU and PSU based on this years results, we already lost that battle. I believe PSU has to convey a positive message to recruits by arguing that PSU has just as good of a chance to make it to the playoffs next year.
It’s even worse if they are national champions…you see that, right?
 
It’s even worse if they are national champions…you see that, right?
I disagree. Post season success for the conference benefits everyone. The possibility exists for the conference’s three best teams to go 38-3, with all three losses amongst themselves. If OSU and UM play in the CFCG, a Rose Bowl win should bump us up pretty far.
 
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I disagree. Post season success for the conference benefits everyone. The possibility exists for the conference’s three best teams to go 38-3, with all three losses amongst themselves. If OSU and UM play in the CFCG, a Rose Bowl win should bump us up pretty far.
Yeah, Ohio State nor Michigan winning hurts us. It can only help the perception of a program that beat everyone in the regular season but those two teams. Kids can believe they're the player we're missing to get there.
 
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I disagree. Post season success for the conference benefits everyone. The possibility exists for the conference’s three best teams to go 38-3, with all three losses amongst themselves. If OSU and UM play in the CFCG, a Rose Bowl win should bump us up pretty far.

People argue this about the SEC but none of the playoff success UGA and Bama have had has actually benefited any other programs with regards to playoff success of their own. All its done push them further ahead. Outside of one season where LSU went undefeated (didn't need any help getting in with that record), no other SEC teams have made it. Programs that were stronger prior to the CFP (like Auburn and Florida) are in much weaker positions now, not stronger.
 
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People argue this about the SEC but none of the playoff success UGA and Bama have had has actually benefited any other programs with regards to playoff success of their own. All its done push them further ahead. Outside of one season where LSU went undefeated (didn't need any help getting in with that record), no other SEC teams have made it. Programs that were stronger prior to the CFP (like Auburn and Florida) are in much weaker positions now, not stronger.
Why do you act like Georgia didn't benefit from Bama's success? That's the part I don't get.
Also bad coaching hires hurt them not the success of others.
 
Why do you act like Georgia didn't benefit from Bama's success? That's the part I don't get.
Also bad coaching hires hurt them not the success of others.

Why do you act like they have?

When teams don’t do well it’s on them but when they do well it’s thanks to the SEC? A good hire helped Georgia. There isn’t a season where Georgia has made the playoff where they wouldn’t have done the same out of another conference. They’ve never required some benefit of the doubt where #sec was the lynchpin that earned them a spot. Georgia also basically never has to go through bama during the regular season and absolutely doesn’t have to go two bamas on the reg.

You want osu and Michigan to win. I want to play osu and Michigan once every 7 to 10 years in the regular season. That’s what’s helped Georgia and the SEC.
 
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Why do you act like they have?

When teams don’t do well it’s on them but when they do well it’s thanks to the SEC? A good hire helped Georgia. There isn’t a season where Georgia has made the playoff where they wouldn’t have done the same out of another conference. They’ve never required some benefit of the doubt where #sec was the lynchpin that earned them a spot. Georgia also basically never has to go through bama during the regular season and absolutely doesn’t have to go two bamas on the reg.

You want osu and Michigan to win. I want to play osu and Michigan once every 7 to 10 years in the regular season. That’s what’s helped Georgia and the SEC.
I just want a 24 team playoff with all 10 champs so things are legit. Right now it's all a joke and has been forever. We've at least kind of have a real national champ but even then there's questions.

Ohio State and Michigan winning isn't bad for us. Georgia winning also isn't bad for us. TCU winning is a problem.
 
I just want a 24 team playoff with all 10 champs so things are legit. Right now it's all a joke and has been forever. We've at least kind of have a real national champ but even then there's questions.

Ohio State and Michigan winning isn't bad for us. Georgia winning also isn't bad for us. TCU winning is a problem.
As far as I'm concerned, the only team winning that's bad for us is Utah.
 
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I disagree. Post season success for the conference benefits everyone. The possibility exists for the conference’s three best teams to go 38-3, with all three losses amongst themselves. If OSU and UM play in the CFCG, a Rose Bowl win should bump us up pretty far.
But not as far as a NC.
 
It’s not the worst scenario. It’s just the dumbest. If Penn state is 12-0 and beats Purdue again, they’re in. If PSU, Mich, and Ohio State all have 1 loss, probably the team with the worst loss is out. OSU and Mich winning or losing from here on out doesn’t really hurt psu. Just win. And just wait till USC is in the mix.
 
It’s not the worst scenario. It’s just the dumbest. If Penn state is 12-0 and beats Purdue again, they’re in. If PSU, Mich, and Ohio State all have 1 loss, probably the team with the worst loss is out. OSU and Mich winning or losing from here on out doesn’t really hurt psu. Just win. And just wait till USC is in the mix.
It matters because we want 4 Big Ten teams in the playoffs for those years we're 4th just like the SEC does once the playoff expands to 12. For example, if USC was in the Big Ten this year (assuming their record is the same) we'd be 4th in the conference. If the conference isn't likely thought of we might get left out. Conference reputation will never mean more.
 
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