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So the only way the players could get the virus is by playing football? Is that your stance?
No. However, thrusting 200 players together in a sweaty mess each Saturday, on top of daily classes and other risks, is a recipe for disaster. Look at the challenges MLB has had with 30-man rosters and professional oversight/testing. CFB would be a far bigger shit show for many reasons.
 
Thank you.

I understand there are 2.8 million kids in PA who are between the ages of 0-18 years. Since you're interested, ask the good OP how many have kids in that age group have died from C19. Then ask how many minority athletes are about to have their dreams crushed by academics who have trouble tying their shoelaces.

Yea I can see how you confused kids dying from C19 and Minority athletes to the over prescribed Oxy.
 
Florida is the third most populous state ahead of New York (and behind California and Texas); Georgia's population is greater than New Jersey! Some Doctor you are....... just make sh*t up and write it as gospel!!!

If you work real hard at it, you can be a little more insulting. Don't deal with the issue, attack the man instead. Old strategy - name calling. You will be OK when your testicles descend. Try dealing with the reality of the issue and let's hear your spin rather than attacking someone you do not even know. Limited, very limited. For a grad student, you think you would be more creative with your insults. You need to try harder. There are so many more profound ad hominem attacks you could use. Disappointing. Try harder.
 
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People like DrJC are why malpractice insurance rates are so high. The lack of critical thinking by that guy is amazing.
Try harder. Your insults are too tame. Be more creative in insulting me or anyone who offers a thought that your mind cannot deal with.
 
why do people keep bringing up baseball? Look at the number of tests they have done compared to the number of positives they have had. To be honest they have done a great job without entire teams being in a bubble.
 
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Yea I can see how you confused kids dying from C19 and Minority athletes to the over prescribed Oxy.

The confusion lies with those who followed the science of the day only to be tragically wrong. If a practitioner missed the pharmaceutical pandemic they themselves created, I can't take anything that have to say about this pandemic seriously.


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The confusion lies with those who followed the science of the day only to be tragically wrong. If a practitioner missed the pharmaceutical pandemic they themselves created, I can't take anything that have to say about this pandemic seriously.


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so the medical community isn't allowed to change their minds based on new information that becomes available? Football coaches make in game adjustments.

Science is static? No new discoveries allowed?

Do you still believe the world is flat?
 
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Without question, I am saddened by the fact that there will be no Fall football. It is something I always look forward to, particularly PSU. But as much as the players , coaches and fans want football, there is a reality that cannot be overlooked. 160,000 Americans have succumbed to this horror within a period of six months. That is frightening and the prospect of 300,000 is being predicted as a real possibility! The possibility of death overrides my enthusiasm. I would not want fan enthusiasm or the financial needs of our institution to result in the infection/illness or even death of any of our student athletes. And, if we were to proceed with the season, think of the liability issues that could arise if student athletes get seriously ill or tragically succumb to the virus.

I also find it interesting that the SEC and ACC are not yet willing to follow the lead. Yet, they represent the very geographical areas where the virus has been rampant because of ignoring reality for seemingly political reasons. Go figure.

Further, I also find it interesting that there seems to be no talk about the student athletes attending class and continuing with their education. I have heard statements such as: they can continue to use the facilities and train - but no mention of being students. Maybe I missed it.

I will miss the games and the whiteout. But this shall pass. But we msut do the right thing until the virus is dealt with successfully.

Just my ramblings.

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I live in GA. That is the geographic area you refer to .... Are you telling me Covid is rampant in GA???

Facts:
1. There was a "hot cell" down in Albany, GA at the very early stages. Back in March-April. Before the hospitals were equipped. If you know Albany, GA is is not exactly metro-Atlanta. The hospitals in Albany were not prepared for what they had to deal with and tragically lives were lost. It took GA a few weeks to respond. The situation was corrected.

2. GA opened early. We have been rampantly testing as businesses are opening. Many businesses are requiring their employees to present a "negative" test before they can return to work. People wanting to return to work has greatly increased the number of tests... increased number of tests.... increase EVERY number... increase negatives AND increase positives... you test more people you get more results. The vast majority of those testing positive were A-Symptomatic. They felt perfectly healthy, were wanting to return to work and told they were positive.

3. Most of those people waited the 14-days, got re-tested. Tested a second time as negative and returned to work.

If you drive past a testing facility in GA the lines are usually very long. That's not because we have out-breaks. Rather it's because people are needing to get a negative test result so they can return to work or participate in a school activity. For example, my 2 daughters run Cross Country. Before they could participate in formal practices, they had to have negative test results. We had to go get both of our daughters tested, even though they felt 100% healthy.

But allow CNN to tell you that we are a hotbed.
 
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so the medical community isn't allowed to change their minds based on new information that becomes available? Football coaches make in game adjustments.

Science is static? No new discoveries allowed?

Do you still believe the world is flat?

Not only should they change their minds when new information is presented, it's their obligation, and that's exactly why CJF and others were correct to ask for more time regarding their decision to cancel the season (Spring isn't happening). The ramifications are going to extend far beyond football, or this town. The arrogance of these deciders is only seen in academics and politicians.
 
I live in GA. That is the geographic area you refer to .... Are you telling me Covid is rampant in GA???

Facts:
1. There was a "hot cell" down in Albany, GA at the very early stages. Back in March-April. Before the hospitals were equipped. If you know Albany, GA is is not exactly metro-Atlanta. The hospitals in Albany were not prepared for what they had to deal with and tragically lives were lost. It took GA a few weeks to respond. The situation was corrected.

2. GA opened early. We have been rampantly testing as businesses are opening. Many businesses are requiring their employees to present a "negative" test before they can return to work. People wanting to return to work has greatly increased the number of tests... increased number of tests.... increase EVERY number... increase negatives AND increase positives... you test more people you get more results. The vast majority of those testing positive were A-Symptomatic. They felt perfectly healthy, were wanting to return to work and told they were positive.

3. Most of those people waited the 14-days, got re-tested. Tested a second time as negative and returned to work.

If you drive past a testing facility in GA the lines are usually very long. That's not because we have out-breaks. Rather it's because people are needing to get a negative test result so they can return to work or participate in a school activity. For example, my 2 daughters run Cross Country. Before they could participate in formal practices, they had to have negative test results. We had to go get both of our daughters tested, even though they felt 100% healthy.

But allow CNN to tell you that we are a hotbed.

what is the turnaround time on the test results.
 
what is the turnaround time on the test results.

When my wife took our 2 girls they all got tested (My wife figured since she already waited 1-hour in line, she might as well get it done). None of them listed the test as an "emergency". They were told "up to 5 days". They actually got results in 2 days. They got tested on a Tuesday and had results by Thursday.
 
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why do people keep bringing up baseball? Look at the number of tests they have done compared to the number of positives they have had. To be honest they have done a great job without entire teams being in a bubble.
Baseball is a good point of comparison. They are better organized and resourced than college football can ever be. They’ve done a fantastic job and yet there are still significant issues. A few teams are one outbreak away from ruining the season. The Marlins or Cardinals can’t possibly complete their schedule if they have more postponements.
 
It seems that death is the only metric folks seem to use to dictate the decision here on the board. I wonder if that is how they live the rest of their lives when making decisions. People seem to forget about the other serious health conditions this creates because of impact to other organs the rest of their lives.

If it doesn't kill you right away it must be ok. If it kills you slower and in a more agonizing way thats ok. Or if it doesn't kill you but impacts your quality of life in a significantly negative way thats ok.

Or as long as kids playing football doesn't spread it to me that's ok too. I don't care about the players loved ones, friends, family etc. Just play football so I'm happy.

Listen I get it, The B1g10 may have made a hasty decision, more time was probably needed. I'm bummed out now. But I just can't get to a place where I'm that selfish and don't care about others, and their loved ones.
This is a super intelligent viewpoint. Even more surprising is Harry never showed this side of himself in 204 Ewing hall 35 years ago. Go figure.
 
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Yea I can see how you confused kids dying from C19 and Minority athletes to the over prescribed Oxy.
Your assumption here is that not playing creates a better outcome than playing and many of us do not believe this. Its not that we don't have empathy, care and concern.
 
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Well , that was a refreshing discussion. Science just died for fan narcissism.
Oh hum. Science says that only 2.6 Of every one million Americans under age 25 die of Covid19. Science says there is no real danger. PS. Tell me you really believe the numbers when hospitals get millions if deaths are covid19.
 
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