The way Warner looked against Michigan makes me think he's feeling better and he's "back" If he is, nobody in the B1G can beat him but Max IMO.
Roar's 2023 Big Ten Wrestling Championships Seeding Review
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A mere 20 years ago, Scott Moore went 54-9 for the season. Wild!
Michigan's 197 is 5-11, career 12-19, and would be sitting if the Woodley transfer hadn't fallen thru.
Maybe Warner is back to what he was, but this isn't proof.
Logically or not, I'd much rather watch Starocci get another shot at Nelson than have a marginally better chance at bonus in his quarterfinal match.
My comment was a general one. These criteria could be split, but that does not appear to be an option.
Despite Warner looking like wrestling this year is a drudgery and snapping Terry in two would be his only moment of joy, he still has the talent to be the biggest obstacle between Max and title number 2. However, I am not sure beating up on a Michigan backup is indicative his competitive passion has returned. If Tom looks at him and says go ahead and give Terry a toss or two, maybe fun and joy can be restored for the kid.
Appreciate @RoarLions1 @El-Jefe @Fink for doing the math on this stuff.
@El-Jefe you’re right the seeding doesn’t matter much for a guy like Brooks as he’s by far the best guy in the weight. Was curious if there was any “common sense/past accomplishment” type factor. Appreciate you breaking it down
@El-Jefe you’re right the seeding doesn’t matter much for a guy like Brooks as he’s by far the best guy in the weight. Was curious if there was any “common sense/past accomplishment” type factor. Appreciate you breaking it down
El Jefe, I completely agree. Winning % is equally silly. What is the difference between 19-1 and 18-1? Plus, the binary approach to common opponents makes little sense.
Of course, the NCAA is intentionally unclear about these "standards."
Of course, the NCAA is intentionally unclear about these "standards."
I believe that the criteria are used to determine pre-seeds. Final seeds are after coaches' approval.
But seed changes are constrained to within some small range (can't remember offhand if it's +/- 2 or 3). For each wrestler. It's not a blank check to re-draw the brackets.
Meaning the coaches could theoretically vote to bump Brooks up from 3 to 1. The pre-seed 1 and 2 would then drop 1 spot each. They can't drop him from 3 to 8, by itself or as the result of adjusting other guys.
Obviously this makes it very rare. As it should be. The sport doesn't need national tournament brackets drawn by back room politicking.
For all of that: the best indicator of NCAA seeds remains the Coaches Poll. Most seeds are close to the rankings. Not exact, but very close.
For those that aren't, it's usually because they didn't have an RPI, or they were upset conference champs, or some oddity like that.
Or their coaches' rank stunk on ice, and the other criteria served as a correction. Example: if Truax returns for the postseason, he'll very likely be seeded well above his rank (currently 33).
For those that aren't, it's usually because they didn't have an RPI, or they were upset conference champs, or some oddity like that.
Or their coaches' rank stunk on ice, and the other criteria served as a correction. Example: if Truax returns for the postseason, he'll very likely be seeded well above his rank (currently 33).
I don't think in anything official. Places like Intermat or flow can rank however they want.
It's not an official match; the only thing it *might* count towards is the coaches' ranking where, like it or not, the coaches *might* take that into consideration when ranking him in the final coaches poll.
So, theoretically, it DOES matter in seeding, but only so far as it influences how the coaches rank Brooks.
His multiple absences from the lineup will actually have a bigger, much more negative impact than that, IMO.
It was an exhibition.
It might get reflected in the coaches poll because they don't always follow their own rules.
Usually the Monday prior to the tournament. Should be Feb 27.
Thanks. Love this time of year. Jacked to get the post season rolling.
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