Rock and Roll HOF Inductees
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Fact is, Joan Jett is in and Yes isn't. I happen to agree with them on that one. Suits me just fine.
If you prefer 20-minute songs of prog-rock muzak over basic rock & roll, more power to you.
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I don't disagree; was merely pointing out that ABBA is far from what anyone would consider Rock n' Roll, whereas Joan Jett is almost certainly Rock n' Roll.
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No dog in this fight (except to say Joy Division should be in ASAP), but I do like Joan Jett. I actually paid to watch 'The Runaways' (Kristen Stewart as Joan Jett - droooll.....) and learned something - I didn't know Lita Ford was in that band.
Kristen Stewart as Joan Jett; Dakota Fanning as Cherie Currie
I'm with you on Joy Division, they were definitely innovative and influential.No dog in this fight (except to say Joy Division should be in ASAP), but I do like Joan Jett. I actually paid to watch 'The Runaways' (Kristen Stewart as Joan Jett - droooll.....) and learned something - I didn't know Lita Ford was in that band.
Kristen Stewart as Joan Jett; Dakota Fanning as Cherie Currie
Having been to the Rock Hall I wouldn't characterize it as a tourist trap, setting aside the in/out discussions. There is an unbelievable amount of great iconic pieces in that museum, to include instruments, stage costumes, props, early contracts, rejection letters from labels for bands that went on to become monster hitmakers....it's not all just about who's in or out. I don't think I spent any time looking at plaques of HOF members but you can lose yourself checking out all the stuff in there. JMO.
They hate prog rock for the same reasons that a lot of music critics hate it. A lot of it is pretentious repetitive trash. That doesn't mean that some people don't like it, there is something for everyone.
This is prog rock
This is rock & roll
They hate prog rock for the same reasons that a lot of music critics hate it. A lot of it is pretentious repetitive trash. That doesn't mean that some people don't like it, there is something for everyone.
This is prog rock
This is rock & roll
I seriously don't even know how to respond to this. Is bamasota actually taking a shot at Rick Wakeman? I feel like I've entered the Twilight Zone.
They hate prog rock for the same reasons that a lot of music critics hate it. A lot of it is pretentious repetitive trash. That doesn't mean that some people don't like it, there is something for everyone.
This is prog rock
This is rock & roll
Although I think prog rock is susceptible to the criticism of being pretentious at times, I don't see the repetitive part, at least not compared to ordinary rock and roll. Isn't ordinary rock and roll more repetitive than prog rock?
It may not matter to some but prog rock musicians usually are at least good if not extremely good musicians. The Sex Pistols of the world have their place but solely in terms of musicianship they're not any better than the band playing down at your local bar tonight.
Prog rock can be hit or miss in that if you're not into it it can be really dreary and off-putting, but if it clicks it can be out of this world. All these years later I am still completely blown away when I listen to Yes's "Close To The Edge" album.
I think the average person could learn to play every part on every instrument on every Sex Pistols album every made more quickly then they could learn the piano part Rick Wakeman plays in this video.
1St 4 cheap trick albums are classic and the live cover of Dylan's basement tapes " Please Mrs. henry" is one of my favs. A band that quotes The Beatles, the Who and covers Dylan deserves in the crass HOF...Hell Donna Summer's and Madonna are in. CT and Yes deserve it, but that's a different discussion.
If you want to declare some musician wearing a cape behind a wall of keyboards playing some 20 minute fugue the greatest, then have at it. There will be those that disagree. Some of them determine who gets in the HoF, and they obviously don't think they belong.
Just trying to explain why they aren't in. I happen to agree.
I love rock n roll put another dime in the jukebox baby. That merits HOF? Are you kidding me?
Its got a beat and you can dance to it. Can't say that for "and you and I".
Hello mom, Hello dad - Cherry Bomb!
Hello world, I'm your wild girl - Cherry Bomb!
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LOL. Joy Division is the most influential band of the past 30 years - period. My guess is you're simply not a fan and that's fine.
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Tool is prog-rock and do not use keyboards. Same with Rush. The stuff those bands do with drums is groundbreaking.
I was talking music with a buddy at work who was going on about Joan Jett and the Runaways being great. Knowing only that awful "I Love Rock and Roll" song I hesitated to criticize her or the band. I went and looked up this cherry bomb song he mentioned. I was shocked at how utterly amateurish and shitty the song writing was. The band can play ok, but the song is pure crap. I realized I couldn't talk seriously about music with this guy but don't hold it against him in the least. Now a PSU bot defender, false narrative promoter, that's another story...Oh and Rick Wakeman doesn't need the politically fueled joke that is the RR HoF in the least. The guy is an absolute genius musician. Saw Rush R40 this past summer, mind blowing.
Sunshine Day by the Brady Kids had that same great beat. Lets put them in there with Joan Jett. Certainly meets your qualifying standards.
An aside, I finally watched "The Wrecking Crew" documentary last night. All I can say is that every single one of those guys (and gals) belong in this HOF before any disco or rap artist. The number of songs they played on was astonishing, and almost all unaccredited. The documentary is great and I would certainly recommend it to anyone.
Absolutely loved that song when it first broke - never tired of it! Great track
I actually did have a Peavey amp for awhile that had 0-11 on the volume knob. Too bad it was such a lousy amp, but at least they had a sense of humor.
Too bad Larry Knechtel wasn't featured much in the doc as they relied on interviews of 4 or 5 others in the main. Not only did he play on 100s of hits with the other members, but he: (1) wrote and played the gorgeous piano part to Bridge Over Troubled Water; (2) came up with the wah-wah guitar part to Bread's Guitar Man; and (3) played bass on the Doors first studio album. A true genius.
I need to see the documentary on backup singers too - 20 Feet from Stardom or something. Merry Clayton's story about being woken up by the Stones to come in and sing backup on Gimme Shelter is classic. In her 3rd Trimester, middle of the night, and in a few takes makes music history.
Was it a Tufnel Signature Series model 11?
Peavey made some real stinkers. Bass and PA were passible, but their guitar amps were the pits.
The drummer's name: Danny Seraphine. I understand that only the original 7 members of Chicago are being inducted. So, that means Peter Cetera should reunite with them. It will be interesting to hear Cetera's elastic tenor with those horns. Danny Seraphine, hopefully, will be there as well. There were some pretty hard feelings when he was fired from the band. It's a shame that Terry Kath is no longer with us. He was pretty much known as the band's heart and soul. Love this band.
Joy Division? Seriously? 
Next thing you know, you will be saying Country Music is actually.....music. When it's really just a group of braying donkeys with little musical skill.
Next thing you know, you will be saying Country Music is actually.....music. When it's really just a group of braying donkeys with little musical skill.
I really think the monicker of "Rock 'N Roll" HOF is really antiquated at this point. It's clear that they allow more than one genre of music. They can keep the name but they should at least clarify what the RRHOF actually is. At this point I don't think it's meant to be taken literally. It's more like the spirit of Rock 'N Roll. Rap is the new RR, so as long as they are going with acts that are in the spirt of the hall I get why acts like NWA get in.
I see little difference between then and NWA.
It's a legit form of music/entertainment. But it's not Rock.
To be fair, it's not to my taste either--but again, it's a legit genre IMHO.
But it's like letting Jim Brown into the Baseball Hall, just because both sports are played with a ball.....
No, it was just a pos solid state modeler, I only kept it long enough to get to really hate it, then traded it on a Marshall DSL, which I'm very happy with.
She is in as a songwriter, not an artist. Her album Tapestry was the best selling album in history for quite a while. She should be in as an artist as well.
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Joy Division? Seriously?
Next thing you know, you will be saying Country Music is actually.....music. When it's really just a group of braying donkeys with little musical skill.
Your disdain for Joy Division is well known. Thankfully, Bono, Thom Yorke, Trent Reznor, Perry Ferrell, Robert Smith, Billy Corgan and nearly every other significant *rock* artist since are fans.
Country music is music when done right - see Teddy Thompson.
