Rule Changes Coming?

[NoVaLion2]

Slightly (or not at all) increase the size of the inner circle. If you spend 30s outside of that circle -- automatic stalling. Maybe could be enforced from the rind-side. Guys backing away immediately drives me insane -- WRESTLE!

 

[Cowbell Man]

Less serious changes:

1. Special Guest Referee Willie Saylor ... to be joined by a group of high-scoring recent NCAA champs.

2. YouTube auto-syncs videos with Byers audio so @nerfstate doesn't have to. Flo prohibited from 3rd party takedowns.

3. Angry Dad section directly behind the Iowa bench. Amine, Ferrari, Gunning, Downey, Suriano, etc., all get a front row seat, not that they'll sit. Free alcohol and Fix Shakes, megaphones provided, and they can move to whatever seats are closest to Terry.

4. Iowa changes its singlets to show Terry Face across the chest. Prominently.

5. Rutgers gets to hang a banner for guys who qualify for B10s.

6. Nobody from Missouri can get a top 16 seed unless they were an AA in the previous year.

7. Stanford AD and president forced to attend NCAAs until Griffith runs out of eligibility. One handcuffed to Borrelli, other forced to do anything Griffith asks pledge week style except without the rules and decorum. Including being paddled. On national TV.

8. EIWA gives up its 2021 over-allocations in 2022.

Lol. This is rich....

 

[82bordeaux]

And, just like the Supreme Court, the refs will issue a ruling roughly every month, Cornell lawyers will appeal the ruling, but only when in session and after lengthy hearings.

FIFY

 

[82bordeaux]

Be careful what you wish for. With the push out rule, this is the wrestling you will see in the Iowa vs PSU matches.

 

[SWPA]

Cherrypicking arguably the greatest takedown artist in recent history doesn't make your point. Maybe the guys that are now getting one takedown go for two, or the guy that gets two goes for three, and so on. If there were dozens of Nolf's out there, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Rewarding wrestlers more for doing less seems dangerously close to becoming a participation trophy. If we aren't seeing enough scoring because the wrestlers are too afraid of counter attacks or losing then increasing the value of a takedown won't change that. What made Nolf great was that he had the confidence in himself to give up the random takedown and believe that it wasn't going to impact the outcome of the match. That comes from great coaching and having the right mindset. That isn't taught everywhere unfortunately. With two "evenly matched wrestlers" I see outcomes going from 3-1 and changing to 4-1.

 

[billrag]

Healthy discussion and as Roar pointed out, it hasn't become a dumpster fire, but some of the suggestions are somewhat humorous to me. We're going to need a committee to sit matside with multiple stop watches and calculators. We'll need infrared sensors on the mat to determine who's inside or outside of the circle and for how long, etc.. Once again, my suggestion is that the rules are mostly fine and that the refs just need to call stalling when they see it. From my perspective, they could eliminate some of the stuff that was intended to make the stall rules less subjective (like dropping on the legs for a 5-count, the edge rules, etc. etc.) and just do what they had previously been expected to do, which is to call stalling when they clearly saw it. I do think the one suggestion that has merit in my opinion is to try to make a catch and release scenario worth more than one net point for the offensive wrestler because it's hard to get a tech-fall that way if 15 takedowns are needed.

 

[NoVaLion2]

1. Riding time can only be earned after a takedown or reversal.
2. Riding time only earned in 30 second increments.
3. After 30 seconds of being on top, back to neutral
4. Tie matches are decided by the biggest score, then the most takedowns, or first takedown
5. If matches need to go to overtime, it is sudden victory from neutral with no time limit
6. Intentionally grabbing the the edge of the mat or putting foot/leg off the mat is a stall call
7. If the top man from a standing position takes the bottom man off the mat, it is a stall call (I actually won a third place match in high school on this call, kept hitting a standup in the last period and got 2 stall calls, to send to OT).
8. Reviews limited to 1 minute, the purpose is to correct obvious bad calls, not to correct bang/bang judgement calls.
9. Lose the review, either a point, a stall call or the opponent gets choice
10. Coaches have to say in their chair, warning and a match point, then a team point and match point
11. Put an inner ring 3 feet in from the outer ring of the mat and call it a warning area. If a wrestler intentionally enters the warning area from neutral, start a five count. At the end of five, if both feet are not out of the warning area, it is a stall warning. Need to eliminate wrestlers hanging out on the edge of the mat. Wrestlers should not get rewarded for bulldozing an opponent off the mat.
12. From a neutral start, if you take a step back off the whistle, it is a stall call.

I like 8-12

Assume Nolf catch and release w/ no NF or Reversals, it goes to the 3rd period, and each wrestler takes bottom until TF, then I believe the following scores result for the TD to Escape ratios:

2-/1 ratio:
Final Score 29-14, requiring 14 TDs.
3/1 ratio:
Final Score 25-8 requiring 8 TDs.

How can 8 TDs over the same duration be more exciting than 14 TDs?

If one wrestler has been taken down 8 times -- and not returned the favor -- I submit that THIS is not an exciting match. It's a clinic.

Sorry for mixing responses... I had one started that I never finished.

 

[Wrestler2u]

One point for every minute you ride

There used to be two points for two or more minutes. Too much riding time is boring.

 

[David Keller]

Maybe we wait a year. C-19 made getting in shape difficult. To change rules based on this year and the results of the NCAA bouts - no. Consider yes, wait until the next season is wrapped up.

 

[yekrut321]

In regards to stalling, I'm in agreement with those that feel like the rules are already there they just need to be consistently called. I know that many of you dislike Angel R. but he's not afraid to call stalls quickly and often. When ever I see him reffing a match, I automatically know that the wrestlers need to be active. I wish more refs called stalls as quick as he does!

I also feel that some of the push outs get called incorrectly!! IMO more wrestlers need to be called for pushing out their opponent rather than the other way around.

Finally, here's an out of the box point earned...."Gas them from the bottom" point. If you get ridden (lets say for 2, 2 1/2, or 3 minutes) and don't surrender any NF points you get the "Gas them from the bottom" point!