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San Francisco is banning chewing tobacco from all Stadiums(OT)

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I know it's a disgusting habit but as someone who does chew this is probably going to piss a lot of Giants off who have to play half their games there. Some have spoken up in support of it(Bochy did and he chews too).

The penalty won't be fines it will be anyone(fans, players, umps, etc.) that is caught will be immediately removed from the stadium. Crazy. As silly as it sounds could hurt the Giants more than a little bit. Chewing is more than just a little part of the game and is a given routine for some ballyplayers.
 
As it should be, sorry but sometimes the right thing needs to be done. Sort of like "speed limits" on highways :)
 
Nonsense, it's the nanny state at work. They can't hide behind anything like second hand smoke that affects anybody but the user. Handy way to eject ball players from opposing teams, if they have the nads to do that...
 
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I know it's a disgusting habit but as someone who does chew this is probably going to piss a lot of Giants off who have to play half their games there. Some have spoken up in support of it(Bochy did and he chews too).

The penalty won't be fines it will be anyone(fans, players, umps, etc.) that is caught will be immediately removed from the stadium. Crazy. As silly as it sounds could hurt the Giants more than a little bit. Chewing is more than just a little part of the game and is a given routine for some ballyplayers.


Typical SF overreaction. Are they going to remove anyone with chew from city Hall, little league or high school games (parents), or anywhere else and take them out of the city limits? I don't chew and think it's disgusting but arent there more serious problems in SF for city officials to focus on rather than Major League Baseball players who use chew?
 
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It's absurd. If they are doing it for "health reasons", how about banning beer, soft drinks, hot dogs, nachos, and endless other "unhealthy items" that kill far more people.

Sold at Giants games.....
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Maybe, we will one day :) Again, that is WHY there are speed limits on roads and highways :)
 
I get where fairgambit is going on this one but which item is the one that they don't sell at stadiums? If they banned beer they might as well just ban having teams because they would bankrupt their franchises.

I think it's goofy in general. Most players don't put Lenny Dykstra chews in. They can try to hide it. The fans are the ones that will need to watch out. Would love to see Hunter Pence come up in the 9th with a huge chew in during a pivotal moment and they boot him from the game. This will just cause problems, IMO. The message from them is they don't want kids seeing their idols chewing. Never mind the fact that kids have parents that smoke, chew, drink, etc.

Just dumb. When I was a kid I didn't care if players had chews in or want to be like them because they chew.
 
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I know there is batters that are going to feel pretty much naked at the plate originally if they really enforce on the players. It's all about the routines for A LOT of them. I guess they can try chewing gum which is probably even worse for your teeth.

The madness will begin when all the players start suffering from withdrawal on a long day @ the park in the later innings. They will just start beating each other with bats and killing each other. The pitchers will throw @ heads unprovoked. Ok, just kidding there. Some people do need a chew every few hours though. Some people keep them in all day except when they aren't eating.
 
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If you speed on a highway you can kill someone else. Chew kills no one but you.

My point was "people" must be managed for their own good and the protection of others. Sort of why "school" is mandated. I do not want to get into a debate, so we will just have to disagree on this one.
Kind of a side "funny story" my HS football coach was a "chewer" and he always spit all of the practice field :) Fun during fumble practice.
 
My point was "people" must be managed for their own good and the protection of others. Sort of why "school" is mandated. I do not want to get into a debate, so we will just have to disagree on this one.
Kind of a side "funny story" my HS football coach was a "chewer" and he always spit all of the practice field :) Fun during fumble practice.
We can disagree without being disagreeable, and we have.
 
If you know where to put snuff (at least) in your mouth, you don't spit and you don't swallow. Leaf/plug tobassco = nasty.
 
what other stadiums are in SF? the 9ers play in the burbs, the sharks are in san jose, and the warriors are in oakland. who does this apply to besides the Giants?
 
what other stadiums are in SF? the 9ers play in the burbs, the sharks are in san jose, and the warriors are in oakland. who does this apply to besides the Giants?

It covers ALL city sports sports venues including community fields, not just ATT Park, but it was pushed by a group called Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. The idea is that kids see pro players using the stuff and because of that they want to try it, too.

MLB wants it banned and it's only failed to do so because of the players' union. So I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the SF ban was passed with MLB's tacit approval, if not encouragement. There is certainly no way the mayor would have passed it if the Giants had said, "No."
 
My point was "people" must be managed for their own good and the protection of others. Sort of why "school" is mandated. I do not want to get into a debate, so we will just have to disagree on this one.
Kind of a side "funny story" my HS football coach was a "chewer" and he always spit all of the practice field :) Fun during fumble practice.

School is mandatory for children, as it should be. Chew is for adults, who should be able to make their own decisions. Both the speed limit and school analogies miss the mark.
 
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It covers ALL city sports sports venues including community fields, not just ATT Park, but it was pushed by a group called Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. The idea is that kids see pro players using the stuff and because of that they want to try it, too.

MLB wants it banned and it's only failed to do so because of the players' union. So I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the SF ban was passed with MLB's tacit approval, if not encouragement. There is certainly no way the mayor would have passed it if the Giants had said, "No."

This "idea" cracks me up. A buddy of mine lived in SF for 5 years and moved back east after he started having kids about 10 years ago. His impression was that SF was the least kid-friendly place he'd ever been. Not welcome in restaurants, etc. It just seemed to him that if you were raising kids you were looked down upon and didn't belong there.
 
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I know it's a disgusting habit but as someone who does chew this is probably going to piss a lot of Giants off who have to play half their games there. Some have spoken up in support of it(Bochy did and he chews too).

The penalty won't be fines it will be anyone(fans, players, umps, etc.) that is caught will be immediately removed from the stadium. Crazy. As silly as it sounds could hurt the Giants more than a little bit. Chewing is more than just a little part of the game and is a given routine for some ballyplayers.
There us a good reason to have players banned from using it: It is a very bad example for kids. Ask Tony Gwynn.
There is a different reason to have fans banned from using it: I really don't want to be forced to sit next to some redneck dickwad spitting tobaccy juice all over.
 
If you ever go to a professional sporting event and the worst example your kids would see is seeing a ballplayer doing something they probably wouldn't even notice from the stands unless you are on the field then you were lucky. I have never seen even a drunk person in the stands put a chew in at any event that just spits everywhere.

The idea might sound nice but it's dumb. SF is going to stay on an island on this one.
 
If you ever go to a professional sporting event and the worst example your kids would see is seeing a ballplayer doing something they probably wouldn't even notice from the stands unless you are on the field then you were lucky. I have never seen even a drunk person in the stands put a chew in at any event that just spits everywhere.

The idea might sound nice but it's dumb. SF is going to stay on an island on this one.

A lot of Giants games are televised. ;)
 
If you ever go to a professional sporting event and the worst example your kids would see is seeing a ballplayer doing something they probably wouldn't even notice from the stands unless you are on the field then you were lucky. I have never seen even a drunk person in the stands put a chew in at any event that just spits everywhere.

The idea might sound nice but it's dumb. SF is going to stay on an island on this one.
That is one of the dumbest things ever posted.
If the few can't see it from the stands (doubtful), more will see it on TV.
Also, kids don't have to see them doing it. They don't have to see them taking steroids, swallowing drugs or beating their girlfriends to set a bad example.
Maybe they should be allowed to smoke cigs on the field, too. That might be safer than chewing tobacco.
The "island" in this case is 100% right, the rest of you clowns are dead wrong.
 
I know. I don't think they show the players putting chew in. Maybe a ban on spitting sunflower seeds or chewing big wads of gum should be next in SF since both can easily be mistaken for chewing.
 
Nonsense, it's the nanny state at work. They can't hide behind anything like second hand smoke that affects anybody but the user. Handy way to eject ball players from opposing teams, if they have the nads to do that...
It's nonsense that human beings are spitting that filth on the ground that we all walk on. There are laws against spitting in this country as there should be.
Now if everybody had a hanky on them and spit that junk into it there would not be a problem but that is not the case.
 
That is one of the dumbest things ever posted.
If the few can't see it from the stands (doubtful), more will see it on TV.
Also, kids don't have to see them doing it. They don't have to see them taking steroids, swallowing drugs or beating their girlfriends to set a bad example.
Maybe they should be allowed to smoke cigs on the field, too. That might be safer than chewing tobacco.
The "island" in this case is 100% right, the rest of you clowns are dead wrong.

Nothing you are saying even makes sense. So you think kids hear about women beating athletes and want to follow in their footsteps? Parents can teach their kids not to do things that are wrong. Your examples are all terrible things. They are also all illegal and potentially directly harmful to others.
 
I am sure the same kids that are being protected from viewing someone using tobacco on tv in San Fran don't have any access to Angels, Dodgers or Oakland games either. Or tv in general hopefully since there is definitely a large amount of bad influences on there.
 
Nothing you are saying even makes sense. So you think kids hear about women beating athletes and want to follow in their footsteps? Parents can teach their kids not to do things that are wrong. Your examples are all terrible things. They are also all illegal and potentially directly harmful to others.
You are apparently unaware of the concentrated campaign to get kids not to use chewing tobacco. You are apparently unaware that this campaign is a big contoversy in MLB. You are apparently unaware that medical authorities such as the Mayo Clinic say it is more dangerous, especially to kids, than cigarettes.
But then, you are obviously unaware in general.

"An expert from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stated that, “Professional athletes in certain sports, including baseball . . . have traditionally had high levels of smokeless tobacco use. Athletes serve as role models for youth, and smokeless tobacco manufacturers have used advertising, images, and testimonials featuring athletes and sports to make smokeless tobacco products appear attractive to youth. Children and teens closely observe athletes’ actions, including their use of tobacco products, and are influenced by what they see. Adolescents tend to mimic the behaviors of those they look up to and identify with, including baseball players and other athletes.”

Kudos to SF for doing the right thing.

http://tobaccofreebaseball.org/content/

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24597614/mlb-tried-to-ban-smokeless-tobacco-but-players-union-balked
 
Not unaware of anything cited. If the league in unity did this it would have meant something. It won't happen and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't last in SF. I would have thought the Padres before any team would have been the Pioneer in leading the charge. It's a positive movement. Common sense would say that chewing tobacco would be worse for kids at a young age than smoking. Long term no and its not close. A lot more kids get hooked on smoking than chewing. Mostly your comparisons are just twisted if not completely unrelated. Smoking on a baseball field vs. Chew? Alrighty then.
 
It's nonsense that human beings are spitting that filth on the ground that we all walk on. There are laws against spitting in this country as there should be.
Now if everybody had a hanky on them and spit that junk into it there would not be a problem but that is not the case.
The world is their spittoon, last prosecution for that was probably about the same time as the last prosecution for creating a disturbance by snapping a buggy whip... Besides, all of the chewers I know recycle an empty bottle or can for that purpose...
 
The world is their spittoon, last prosecution for that was probably about the same time as the last prosecution for creating a disturbance by snapping a buggy whip... Besides, all of the chewers I know recycle an empty bottle or can for that purpose...
Your kidding me right? You think everybody is recycling like I am sure all of your buddies are doing?
 
It's definitely taking disgusting to a new level if you are just running around a group of people spitting wherever you feel like it. It's sick if it's just a person spitting even without a chew in. I assume that most people that would chew at a game of any kind would be spitting into a spit cup or can. Or in public anywhere.
 
Not unaware of anything cited. If the league in unity did this it would have meant something. It won't happen and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't last in SF. I would have thought the Padres before any team would have been the Pioneer in leading the charge. It's a positive movement. Common sense would say that chewing tobacco would be worse for kids at a young age than smoking. Long term no and its not close. A lot more kids get hooked on smoking than chewing. Mostly your comparisons are just twisted if not completely unrelated. Smoking on a baseball field vs. Chew? Alrighty then.
Talk about illogical nonsequiturs and twisting my statements.
Almost everything you say is wrong.
First of all, the minor leagues ALREADY BAN CHEWING TOBACCO. So where are all the "libertarians" whining about that?
You say just because no other MLB team is doing it SF should not do it? Well, maybe contrary to the arguments from the "libertarians" here that SF cares less about their kids than other places, maybe they care more.
As a matter of fact, SD and other CA cities are expected to soon also ban it. So much for the SF "nanny state".
You say more kids smoke than chew. Well, that is not true among younger kids WHO PLAY BASEBALL, who are the target of this regulation.
As far as comparison, it is not completely clear which is more dangerous, since more a lot people smoke than chew and chewing often leads to smoking.
Both smoking and chewing are addictive.
Yes, from the perspective of setting an example for kids, my point was it makes as much sense to let players chew as it makes to let them smoke.
All your silly stupid transparent sophistry to the contrary, you should ask Tony Gwynn's kids if it is a good idea or not.
 
All the "Nanny State" cities you cite are in California; a soon-to-be bankrupt (nanny) state that is losing its industrial base at alarming levels. Your analogies are very weak. I smoke cigars because they prevent bronchitis. You should try it next winter! This guy did...

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Ahh - While cleaning out the man cave, I came across this pic of my mom vacationing in Jamaica while pregnant with "lil' Ziggy". Very nostalgic!
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San Francisco and an example of their looney liberalism. What's next from these fanatical morons?
 
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