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Sandusky going with the big guns to debunk repressed memory

RussianEagle said:
No one, not even John Ziegler, is denying the Sandusky wasn't a absolutely weird dude. But Joe Paterno got fired, PSU ended up paying out $100 million, and PSU became national embarrassment because people were lead to believe Sandusky was sodomizing and performing oral sex on boys in the Penn State showers, and I simply all reports that allege that are easily debunked.
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My manager wanted me to clarify that our official position is that there has been no credible accusation that Jerry Sodomized anyone in Penn State showers. Nor performed oral sex, for that matter, in Penn State showers.

Clear?

The above does not mean that Jerry is innocent. Just of those two specific things, in Penn State showers.
 
coveydidnt said:
My manager wanted me to clarify that our official position is that there has been no credible accusation that Jerry Sodomized anyone in Penn State showers. Nor performed oral sex, for that matter, in Penn State showers.

Clear?

The above does not mean that Jerry is innocent. Just of those two specific things, in Penn State showers.
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How's your Mesothelioma posting business going? Nose to the grindstone. Remember, you get out what you put in...
 
If you lie at least once under oath......does that make you a liar? Or does it mean that you have not yet been afforded repressed memory therapy? I can't recall the answer.
 
coveydidnt said:
My manager wanted me to clarify that our official position is that there has been no credible accusation that Jerry Sodomized anyone in Penn State showers. Nor performed oral sex, for that matter, in Penn State showers.

Clear?

The above does not mean that Jerry is innocent. Just of those two specific things, in Penn State showers.
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What you do mean by "my manager" and "our position"? Did I miss something?
 
pandaczar12 said:
Why don't you give it a shot on your own first. It's the only way you'll get better. Teach a man to fish and all. Then you can report back and ask for specific help in areas you are struggling.

I'll even give you a push in the right direction: www.google.com
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I would hunk you would relish the chance to show off your skills PHD Bear. Show me what ya got!
 
Osprey Lion said:
Most sane people believe performing sex acts on young boys is "weird". Sane people also
believe those that defend pedophiles are weird. Thus there are many weird people who frequent
this board.
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Please don't conflate defending an accused's right to a fair trial with support for CSA. I believe you can think that someone didn't get a fair trial and at the same time find CSA repugnant.
 
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francofan said:
Please don't conflate defending an accused's right to a fair trial with support for CSA. I believe you can think that someone didn't get a fair trial and at the same time find CSA repugnant.
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Nobody believes that you think both those things. That's the problem. And you haven't ever even said you do.
 
Osprey Lion said:
You should get a life. All I see from you is incessant defense of a pedophile. There are many nuts on this
board and you are on or near the top.
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I have a life thank you. I am sorry you don't believe that everyone in this country deserves a fair trial. I do. I believe that Sandusky's first trial was inherently unfair and that he deserves a new trial. If you don't like my opinion, it doesn't bother me in the least.
 
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no1lion99 said:
I would hunk you would relish the chance to show off your skills PHD Bear. Show me what ya got!
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"hunk"... Freudian slip?

Damn, now I've given you another thing to look up, and you are struggling so bad with the first assignment. I'm not falling for your weak attempt to get me to help. You need to learn to do this on your own.
 
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Osprey Lion said:
Most sane people believe performing sex acts on young boys is "weird". Sane people also
believe those that defend pedophiles are weird. Thus there are many weird people who frequent
this board.
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Yes, and you can take odds on who the main one is, spray. You have company as well.:rolleyes:
 
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pandaczar12 said:
"hunk"... Freudian slip?

Damn, now I've given you another thing to look up, and you are struggling so bad with the first assignment. I'm not falling for your weak attempt to get me to help. You need to learn to do this on your own.
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And I could give two sh1ts about what you think you caught me in so I guess we are even....
 
francofan said:
Please don't conflate defending an accused's right to a fair trial with support for CSA. I believe you can think that someone didn't get a fair trial and at the same time find CSA repugnant.
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If you used the correct words people might believe you weren't defending a child sex offender. He isn't "an accused"...he is a convicted child sex offender. The fact that you gloss over that tells everyone what they need to know about your positions on the matter Steve. That and the fact that everyone knows you visit him in prison.
 
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pandaczar12 said:
Why would we be "even"? Please explain.

Do you just toss out random sayings like that to try and change the subject and avoid responding to the content of my post?
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common tactic of Moron John

just remember . . . NO ONE who has met him and worked with him wants to talk to him any more
 
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I think the most reasonable take on things is that Jerry is guilty of some of what he was accused, but the OAG violated his constitutional rights in an attempt to take an iffy case and make it a slam dunk. I also think it's reasonable to suspect the OAG manipulated the narrative in an effort to make Penn State the central player, rather than TSM, and the OGBOT was a willing participant in that deception. Finally, I believe those who make ad hominem attacks on anyone calling for a new trial deserve to have their motives questioned.
 
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indynittany said:
I think the most reasonable take on things is that Jerry is guilty of some of what he was accused, but the OAG violated his constitutional rights in an attempt to take an iffy case and make it a slam dunk. I also think it's reasonable to suspect the OAG manipulated the narrative in an effort to make Penn State the central player, rather than TSM, and the OGBOT was a willing participant in that deception. Finally, I believe those who make ad hominem attacks on anyone calling for a new trial deserve to have their motives questioned.
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BOOM. right there with ya, buddy

in fact, you have to wonder WHY they are so relentless in crushing any questioning of the established narrative
 
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indynittany said:
I think the most reasonable take on things is that Jerry is guilty of some of what he was accused, but the OAG violated his constitutional rights in an attempt to take an iffy case and make it a slam dunk. I also think it's reasonable to suspect the OAG manipulated the narrative in an effort to make Penn State the central player, rather than TSM, and the OGBOT was a willing participant in that deception. Finally, I believe those who make ad hominem attacks on anyone calling for a new trial deserve to have their motives questioned.
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Of course that's reasonable. It's quite obvious. If you think those of us criticizing the admins don't believe that then you aren't paying attention to what we are saying.
 
TenerHallTerror said:
so close . . .

but notice how Moron John could easily dispute my claims by naming someone who still talks to him

he can't. and I know he can't.
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Now that I think about it...If Austin was proficient at math, he could have answered his own questions.

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no1lion99 said:
If you used the correct words people might believe you weren't defending a child sex offender. He isn't "an accused"...he is a convicted child sex offender. The fact that you gloss over that tells everyone what they need to know about your positions on the matter Steve. That and the fact that everyone knows you visit him in prison.
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I am using the correct words. Sandusky has been accused of commiting acts of CSA. He was tried in what I believe to have been an inherently unfair trial and was convicted on 45 out of 48 counts. I don't believe the results of a flawed trial are reliable. I believe based on the evidence that has been put in the record, that the PCRA should result in a new trial and believe it likely will. IMO, the Sandusky case is the textbook reason why the PCRA process is in place. Duquesne Law School professor Wes Oliver has stated that Sandusky's PCRA petition is one of the strongest that he has seen. Based on my first impressions, Judge Foradora seems like he may be an objective jurist. He stated he likely will make a ruling on whether or not to grant a new trial by the end of the year and at this time I don't think it is clear which way he will rule. Irrespective of how he rules, the decision likely will be appealed to Superior Court and/or the Pa. Supreme Court. Based on the facts and evidence of the case, I think it is very probable that the final result will be a new trial for Sandusky.

I think my positions on the matters are clear. I think that Sandusky's trial was inherently unfair. I find CSA repugnant. Do you find anything inconsistent in those positions?
 
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