Our conference schedule is fine...thank God it isn't a down year in the Big Ten and we have to play Wisconsin...our non-conference schedule is not.
Our conference schedule is fine...thank God it isn't a down year in the Big Ten and we have to play Wisconsin...our non-conference schedule is not.
Bama has consistently scheduled teams such as Wisconsin, Florida State, Wisconsin, Virginia Tech, etc as part of their non-conference schedule. Louisville was strong on paper when they scheduled them for 2018. We're also not Bama...when we start winning titles like they do you let me know then we can put us in the same conversation with them. In the meantime, Michigan scheduled Notre Dame and Ohio State schedule TCU...we have Pitt...reality. If we have the same record as one of those teams and get left out no one better complain even if we beat them. The non-conference schedule will deservedly hurt us.
So winning titles removes the requirement to schedule competitively out of conference? What a concept! I guess next you'll say that reputation gets a playoff berth in tossup or close decisions... weak! ( see Bryce Harper in All Star game...bogus at best)
Agreed with this. Both are P5 schools. We climbed out of 7-5 seasons a lot faster than anybody expected. Also, we didn't fall as far into losing under sanctions as we did in 2000, '01, '03, and '04 - crazy to say the least.
And I think Pitt was supposed to be on the upswing when the games were scheduled (anybody know for sure? These games get scheduled sometimes 10 years before they are played.) There is no guarantee VT or Auburn are going to be top 20 teams when those games are played. If they turn out being 6-6, is that Penn State's fault? Nope!
Coming into this season, I'd say WV is potentially the better team. Two top 10-15 players on offense in a conference noted for pitiful defense. VT largely underachieved last year and for Fuente being notable for his offensive mind, things didn't look particularly good on the offensive side. Throwing out the 64 they put up on ECU (who historically has given the Hokies fits), they broke 30 twice. Additionally, looked inept against the two division champions on their schedule, dropped a head scratcher to GT, almost lost to Pitt (hooray for conference games!), and played the second most boring offensive game in CFB history, only behind our infamous 6-4 loss to Iowa.
I'm sure you mean going forward though, which I can understand why. However, VT has no history without Beamer. Fuente lucked out in keeping Foster to run the defense and maintain some of the recruiting base. Just my opinion.
Maybe you should look at the 201
I said very solid "young" D. 2016/17/18 recruits playing this year.... MAC Level, Huh?
Not as highly ranked as PSU's classes, I'm not arguing that...but MAC level, no way.
Rashad Weaver
Keyshon Camp
Damar Hamlin
Amir Watts
Phil Campbell
Patrick Jones
Therran Coleman
Rashad Wheeler
Chase Pine
2017 kids that will also play this year.
Paris Ford
Jaylen Twyman
Jason Pinnock
Damarri Mathis
Deslin Alexandre
Kyle Nunn
Albert Tucker
sprinkle in 18 Studs
Devin Danielson
Marquis Williams
NC schedules are much less important now due to the playoff setup. If we win the B10 we will likely be in the CFP. NC schedules won’t matter. We didn’t make it in 2016 because we lost 2 games...the opponents didn’t matter.
You call Danielson and Williams "studs". If so, why are they only 3Stars on Rivals? Williams was rated the 96th best player in Florida. They both had only 5 offers, most from Div 2 schools. Calling them "studs" is laughable.
I love this moving bar. Pitt plays in a crap division and has tough out of conference games, so suddenly Penn State needs to follow that model.
We play in a division with perennial top 10 teams in Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State. They are on our schedule every year. We need to do nothing out of conference, as proven by Alabama, in order to make a college football playoff should we win the Big Ten. That is the goal. All the rest of the nonsense is hand waving.
When PSU went on sanctions, most Pitt fans I talked to had that day as the turning point for their program. They assumed that their recruiting would improve, and Pitt would be a legitimate ACC contender and would win 3 if not all 4 in the series. The recruiting has not improved, and I doubt Pitt wins 3. I agree the players listed above are not MAC level, but not at a level Pitt needs to contend in the ACC. That should be tough to swallow seeing how pedestrian Pitt's division is. Now that Miami is recruiting at a better level, Pitt's chances are probably gone.
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The 2016 class was decent and had some 4 star kids but that was before people realized how unhinged and downright nasty Narduzzi is and Franklin was just starting to hit his recruiting stride. As far as 2017, you seem to be leaving out the rest of the class that is filled with players like Owen Drexel who Pitt was battling Rutgers as his only other P5 offer. And the 2018 class was anemic, but still head and shoulders above what Narduzzi is pulling in for the current class.
If these are the classes that you're hanging your hat on then just assume that 8 wins is all in the past.
Your definition of stud is way different than mine. For Pitt, you’re a stud if you still have both testicles.
I'm dealing with the system that is and your comparison to the All Star game actually is exactly right and proves my point. With all else being even (or even close to even) the human factor will always go to Bama over any other team. That's something that is a reality. Give us a 16 or 24 team playoff and this stuff becomes irrelevant but, right now, this is reality.
And, again, Bama does do their best to schedule one legit non-conference game MOST years and Saban is on record stating he wishes the P5 only played P5 schools which is what we need--more levels of DI football. Do I like Bama's playing 3 weak games--of course not but I'd take Louisville over anyone on our non-conference schedule this year.
I'm not asking to play Bama, LSU & USC all in the same season. I want something along the lines of Virginia Tech, Colorado State & a MAC team that typically has a pulse (Toledo, NIU, CMU, Ohio). I'm not being unreasonable here.
Yes you are. All those teams would want a home/away. That is unreasonable. If VTech and CSU in your example said we will come to Bama for one game and then done, Bama might take them up on it. Are you willing to do that? That is all Pitt has to do to play PSU every year.
I agree but at the time of the sanctions, I didn't think PSU would recover for many years. Look at Bama when they got hit back in the 90s I believe. It took them 10 years and their sanctions were far less. The fact that Pitt couldn't capitalize says all you need to know. So at the time I understand why the Pitt faithful believed that.
Very insightful....
you mean offensive lineman like Jerry Drake and Carter Warren? Go look at their offers.... interesting how you picked a two star guy to judge the class.
18 class is anemic? That’s about as ridiculous the initial comment of our recruiting looking MAC like.... 2018 class is very good. I guess Wisconsin and Iowa suck too?
Like all Pitt guys, you live in a dream world. Your recruiting is awful. Your head coach is a loser. Your record this year is going to be terrible again. And you know what? Nobody else is even going to notice except for you and us, because you aren't relevant.
Pitt has won 10 games once in 30 years. Your recruiting classes aren't talented enough to change that trend. Your division of the ACC is weak enough that you may occasionally catch lightning in a bottle and compete for a division title, but contending for the college football playoffs is a pipe dream.
Sounds good.... appreciate your professional opinion... haha. We shall see what happens on September 8th, and if I hear or see the ridiculous comments about this game being our super bowl.... I’ll continue to laugh as the 2016 loss probably kept PSU out of the playoff. So I’d probably take this game more serious if I was Franklin... what a dopey comment and perspective.
The only chance you have of being relevant to a playoff game, is by upsetting someone else who might go there. A truly sad existence.
Any other people from Malvern at Pitt? All of the proper Malvern sorts usually go to brand name schools. Sorry about that. Nobody flies a Pitt flag from their house in Avalon.
Any other people from Malvern at Pitt? All of the proper Malvern sorts usually go to brand name schools. Sorry about that. Nobody flies a Pitt flag from their house in Avalon.
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I repeat that if you think that your past few and current recruiting class is OK then you must be happy with averaging 5 or 6 wins a year. As far as Iowa they've been trending downwards for years so if that's your comparison then you're not dreaming very big. And Wisky always recruits at this level and still continues to win. If Pitt starts winning the Coastal with these classes then come back and remind me and I'll eat crow. But your recruiting is such that a good year will be qualifying for the TaxSlayer Bowl and hoping for a bunch of transfers each year and really hoping that they don't all turn out like Max Browne.
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Uh oh.... now you’re saying Pitt is a bad school too? I live in DC anyway.... Avalon is weak... to many Nitters.... J/k I happen to have many PSU friends but unlike you, they’re quite rational.
Dopey comment from Franklin? Maybe it was exactly that 'next game up' attitude that kept them playing hard at 2-2. Maybe it is that 'big game' attitude from NarDog that allows a team to win big upsets and still have reallllly mediocre overall seasons.
Cop out. There are other posters here who try to mock others for different opinions and play the whole "professional" card.
Additionally, it must be lovely putting on the little brother cloak and saying "we'll see!" Penn State wins by 50, it's because we should have. Penn State wins by 1, we aren't that good. Penn State loses, it's I told you so! At least bring some facts to the table. Some specific information. Otherwise, you are just trying to be the loudest guy in the room.
Not surprised. I've heard that the summer landscaping job market was red hot this year in that area. Your Pitt degree probably gives you a slight edge over the new immigrants for those positions.
Ask your coworkers how to say "Little Brother" in Spanish.
It took a layup bowl game to get to 10 wins, they haven't won 10 regular season games, despite their always easy conference schedule, since 1981.
Brilliant sir.... or shall I say Ma’am? Which branch campus did you attend?
See this is your super bowl if that game is what you are hanging your hat on...
When your coach makes keychains for a win in which you were the favorite, that pretty much says it is your super bowl to him. So don't blame PSU fans for stating what your coach made perfectly clear.
Clemson was a bigger win, no doubt, but coach Narduzzi thinks an in state rivalry win against a quality team is big. What’s wrong with that philosophy? If Conner was in the shape he was for Clemson game, PSU second half wouldn’t have been that close. He manhandled Clemson in that game, especially in second half.
Dude. The branch campus line is passe. You're supposed to say Joe Knew.
Do we have to explain everything to you?
Why didn't Connor run wild in all those losses?
You guys caught Clemson asleep. Syracuse did a year later. Don't hyperbole it into something it wasn't.
Hahahaha... yeah ok. Did we catch PSU asleep too? Look at the stats, we had one of the best offenses in the country. Our D was shaky, that’s why we struggled in some games. Every game is different, you know that.
All of Malvern and the Main Line admits that Joe knew... haha.... seriously. You have to be a stone cold idiot to think otherwise. Thought that was old news.
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