It’s hard to find 20 Pitt fans at Heinz field on game day.
. My comment is your coach made it their super bowl so you shouldn’t call psu fans ridiculous for agreeing with him. I think avoiding the highs and lows of making too much of a non conference game is foolish and can lead to let downs. Pitt beat psu that year. Your comment about Conner is interesting seeing that psu has so many injuries defensively and no depth at that time. Who knows what would have happened if psu was full strength as well. You guys can’t get past that it is not viewed as a rivalry to most psu fans. If it was, psu would not have ended the series. I wish Pitt luck. I have ties to two Pitt players currently on the roster, but Pitt seems to think this game is way bigger than it is to psu.
Anybody who has paid attention to Penn State knows that the program discovered itself late in the Minnesota game that year. We were not considered great enough to be asleep like a top ranked Clemson. Weren't you guys favored to win going in?
Every game is not so different that you can beat the two best teams you played and still somehow drop 5 games. All the while claiming you had this excellent offense? Excellent offenses don't lose 5 games. And most of those players weren't recruited by Natduzzi. This is year 4, right? Mostly his players. Let's see how they do.
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Joe Knew
What branch campus did you attend
As for Pitt recruiting, the only time they actually beat out decent teams for a recruit is if the kid is from Pittsburgh. Most of the other kids had offers at one time and settled for Pitt because other teams filled up. The 2016 class has lost most of its higher rated players.
There is a reason why VEGAS and anyone with common sense has Pitt set for another 5 win season
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Joe Knew
What branch campus did you attend
As for Pitt recruiting, the only time they actually beat out decent teams for a recruit is if the kid is from Pittsburgh. Most of the other kids had offers at one time and settled for Pitt because other teams filled up. The 2016 class has lost most of its higher rated players.
There is a reason why VEGAS and anyone with common sense has Pitt set for another 5 win season
Sure you could. The guys who are the garbage men and the landscapers on the Main Line are all Pitt fans, and most of them have Pitt Masters' degrees.
I don't think that which was my point. CSU would take the one and done like they did a year or two ago against Bama. I do believe they got Arkansas home and home but not with a blue blood. Don't know where Army came from.
PSU drastically outplayed Pitt the second half of that game and were a dropped passed away from winning it. But whatever. I'm sure you'll still be talking about 2016 in ten years because that will be the high point of Pitt football next decade too.
It was just like beating Akron. And unlike Pitt, the Zips went bowling.
Okay--let's start over...then why not schedule Army and Colorado State (or teams on that level) that won't require a home and home? Pitt-App State-Kent State is insulting to the fan base and simply not good enough.
Not only the dropped pass for a walk in TD... don't forget the pick six that ended the game. PSU was in chip shot FG position, down by 3 with all the momentum, and Trace went for it all but a WR ran the wrong route on an early down. If he had taken his time, PSU likely would have scored a TD and used up valuable clock and there was zero chance of Pitt's offense passing down the field in a hurry. Worst case PSU goes to OT with all the momentum.
PSU straight up handed that game to Pitt... twice.
Don't disagree with the logic but at the end of the day we lost. Pitt won the game. I have no idea why this is even being discussed. There's no excuses. None.
No one is disputing they won the game. They like to act like they dominated the game, but the truth is that Pitt was VERY lucky to have won the game.
It's all they have. PSU won 8 of the last 10 meetings with Pitt. No one would trade places with them.
We're going back a long way when we're talking about 8 of 10 to be honest I'm not sure the relevance behind that but...
We're the better program by a large margin. I don't understand why stuff like this bothers people. We were horribly outcoached for about the first half of that game. We made adjustments but simply couldn't finish. Kudos to Pitt for the win. We've only improved greatly since then. If they see it as dominating then let them. They don't have much to celebrate. We can give them this. If a 3 point win to them is dominance then so be it.
I do think people are taking this game lighter than they should. I wouldn't be shocked if we won by 30 (and that's the expectation if we're going to be as good as people think) but I also wouldn't be shocked if it's a close game. This is their Super Bowl. And a night game early in the season can create problems.
I totally agree with the people who take Pitt seriously. Yeah they are lining up two-stars against PSU's four-stars, but they are still Div. 1 scholarship players and the Pitt position coaches do a good job of getting them ready.
But I wonder if this might be the year PSU puts some distance between itself and Pitt on the field.
1) Pitt's offensive system is weird and confusing with all its motions and misdirections, that's how they upset teams that don't know them, but this will be PSU's third look at it. Most of the PSU front seven has played against that offense twice now. They know what mistakes they've made before, they play with more positional discipline now, they'll be quicker to recognize things and not over-react to the misdirection.
2) For the first time since the resumption of the series, PSU's DL personnel match up positively against the Pitt OL. Brian O'Neill is finally gone. PSU's DEs (and starting DTs) are very athletic AND very experienced. PSU's question mark is linebacker but it sure makes the backer's job easy when the DL is getting penetration. If Parsons and Luketa play, they will bite on everything and be out of position (which is a great learning experience for them BTW). But Farmer, Brown and Bowen if he plays will be a lot more comfortable.
3) Franklin and Rahne are now pretty familiar with what Pitt (and MSU) do defensively. Especially since PSU lost to MSU last season, I suspect that Dantonio/Narduzzi defense has gotten a lot of attention from the PSU coaches in the off season. Jordan Whitehead is gone from the Pitt secondary, and PSU gets to line up Johnson, Shorter, Thompkins, Hamler maybe with a little Ricky Slade. PSU will have mismatches all day.
4) Despite the score, Pitt did a pretty good job against McSorley last year. 15-28, only 168 yards, 1 INT, qb rating of 68 for the game. I would bet McSorley has spent some time looking at film and will have some ideas about how to play better against Pitt this year.
But I wonder if this might be the year PSU puts some distance between itself and Pitt on the field.
1) Pitt's offensive system is weird and confusing with all its motions and misdirections, that's how they upset teams that don't know them, but this will be PSU's third look at it. Most of the PSU front seven has played against that offense twice now. They know what mistakes they've made before, they play with more positional discipline now, they'll be quicker to recognize things and not over-react to the misdirection.
2) For the first time since the resumption of the series, PSU's DL personnel match up positively against the Pitt OL. Brian O'Neill is finally gone. PSU's DEs (and starting DTs) are very athletic AND very experienced. PSU's question mark is linebacker but it sure makes the backer's job easy when the DL is getting penetration. If Parsons and Luketa play, they will bite on everything and be out of position (which is a great learning experience for them BTW). But Farmer, Brown and Bowen if he plays will be a lot more comfortable.
3) Franklin and Rahne are now pretty familiar with what Pitt (and MSU) do defensively. Especially since PSU lost to MSU last season, I suspect that Dantonio/Narduzzi defense has gotten a lot of attention from the PSU coaches in the off season. Jordan Whitehead is gone from the Pitt secondary, and PSU gets to line up Johnson, Shorter, Thompkins, Hamler maybe with a little Ricky Slade. PSU will have mismatches all day.
4) Despite the score, Pitt did a pretty good job against McSorley last year. 15-28, only 168 yards, 1 INT, qb rating of 68 for the game. I would bet McSorley has spent some time looking at film and will have some ideas about how to play better against Pitt this year.
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Yeah... all the way back to November 1989. It's significant because it shows the dominance of PSU over what happens to be a nice even, non-arbitrary, sample size. Another example is that Pitt has a losing record over the last 25 years. Pitt fans love to pick arbitrary sample sizes to make ridiculous points... because well, what else can they do? I just like to highlight it.
My post didn't need a reply, and yours was shockingly long for a post that didn't need a reply, so forgive me if I didn't read the past the first paragraph. It's 30 seconds I would never get back.
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Yes but Watson was hired to run Canada's offense. The offense didn't change last year -- maybe they didn't run it as well.
So your post didn't need a reply yet you replied to my post with nonsense about how you're acting like a Pitt fan--gotcha
Correct, my post answered all of your questions, and required no further discussion. Yet for some reason you rambled on with a bunch of unrelated nonsense. That post was the start of a new discussion. Please try to keep up.
While it's embarrassing that you for some reason said I'm acting like a Pitt fan... At least in your most recent post you didn't refer to a football team as "we".
And Pitt Throttled PSU in first half.....What's the difference? Pitt won the game and I could care less about that now.
Read why you bashed Pitt fans and then see what you're doing...
I think it's comical you think you determine what warrants a response. Stop saying ridiculous things and I won't have to correct you
Notice you're still responding
You're now supposed to say 42-39, or something like that. You are a very mediocre troll, I must say.
Did you ever learn to say "Little Brother" in Spanish, like I suggested? Some day there will be more people speaking Spanish in this country than English, but Pitt will still be our Little Brother.
Pitt’s offense didn’t confuse us at all last year. They were barely even there.
You’re actually kind of funny....I don’t mind you as much as i thought I would.
I think you need to read where I bash Pitt fans for doing the opposite (odd, arbitrary, sample size) of what I am doing (nice even, non-arbitrary, sample size). I think it's comical someone can't read and comprehend basic English, and then projects their failure on others!
Notice I'm still responding to the new discussion, and you don't seem to understand the difference… please try to keep up. Please, please, please keep making the completely predictable replies I am manipulating you to make.
Yep! Thankfully he is pretty slow and completely predictable. He's constantly 3 posts behind. The only way he can save face is to quit replying... unless of course that is what I want him to do.
The SHOVEL. PASS.
got them some yardage, but when push came to shove, Penn State shoved pitt around. The game wasn’t close.
How much less could you care?
Dude, what’s up with that signed pic of Franklin.... are you 10 yrs old? Haha.....hilarious.
You can with teams that don't want a home and home. I am not saying you can't. App State and Kent State play P5 schools to get a big payday and play superior competition. I don't see how Bama playing the CSU's and Army's of the world is any more meaningful to the fan base than playing App St and Kent State. It also deprives the App State's of the world from getting to play on a bigger stage and funding their athletic programs. Most of the blue bloods play one OOC P5 game and then the lower tiers. I have no problem with that at all and will gladly see PSU play App St.
Exactly. What does Colorado State bring to the table? They have had 1 good season and a record under .500 in the last 10 years. I like playing the Service Academy's as they create an interesting game day atmosphere, but they aren't helping SOS. And Franklin already said he doesn't like playing them because the prep for the triple option doesn't help in the long run. If someone can predict what non P5 team is going to be good 5 years out, let's go schedule them. But you can't. See Boise. As soon as one of those programs gets good, the coach leaves.
It isn’t hard to grasp. If you feel like you are playing a gauntlet of an out of conference schedule you are the patsy..
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