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SIAP - Franklin subtly responds to Jimmah’s whining...

He got a PI call on a throw to Collins down the sideline on their first scoring drive that nearly ended up in the first row of seats.

This is the same shit that got him into trouble previously when he thought he was hot shit coming back to school from the NFL and thought he could bully/intimidate his way to success. He just doesn't learn.

Franklin is as good as it gets with this stuff
 
I wonder what Franklin's attitude would be had he had JoePa's history with the referees in the B1G. I think JoePa was the better man for most of his career. But the officiating simply got so bad with the B1G over a long period that he broke and started voicing his displeasure publicly. If not for that we may not have had instant replay implemented when it was.

I'm not defending Hairball. I prefer Franklin's approach. But there is a limit to what a good man will take. And the B1G referees crossed that line with JoePa.
 
You'd think Harbaugh would know the rules of the sport.

Defensive holding is not dependent on a catchable ball....pass interference is

There is no standard in PI for the ball to be catchable in college football and there hasn’t been for a few years.
 
Well, let's be honest, CJF called out the disparity in penalty yd's as recently as in Iowa City.

The difference is, CJF had a legit beef. The officiating was terrible and one sided against Iowa. Last weekend, both teams were burned by a couple of head-scratchers

and CJF did it much more reasonable and respectable way.
 
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I wonder what Franklin's attitude would be had he had JoePa's history with the referees in the B1G. I think JoePa was the better man for most of his career. But the officiating simply got so bad with the B1G over a long period that he broke and started voicing his displeasure publicly. If not for that we may not have had instant replay implemented when it was.

I'm not defending Hairball. I prefer Franklin's approach. But there is a limit to what a good man will take. And the B1G referees crossed that line with JoePa.
The same instant replay that reverses obvious touchdowns by #87? ;)

Any complaint that Harbaugh can muster is silly compared to the purposeful attempt to affect the outcome of a game evidenced by the TD reversal in Iowa...

...and after all of the favoritism in officiating that UM experiences year after year.
 
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Well, let's be honest, CJF called out the disparity in penalty yd's as recently as in Iowa City.

The difference is, CJF had a legit beef. The officiating was terrible and one sided against Iowa. Last weekend, both teams were burned by a couple of head-scratchers
No CJF did not cal or disparity. He was asked about it by reporters and he refused to comment. He did reference the 8 to 1, but that was as close as he came.
 
No CJF did not cal or disparity. He was asked about it by reporters and he refused to comment. He did reference the 8 to 1, but that was as close as he came.

That was exactly what I was referencing. He specifically said 8 for 80 yards versus one for 5 yards. That is by definition calling out a disparity, so I'm not sure what you're talking about

Now it is true that Harbaugh was a whiny punk about it, and of course Franklin was not. Inherent differences in who they are people. But let's not make like we've never worked the refs. Hell I'd be disappointed if he hadn't after the Iowa debacle
 
That was exactly what I was referencing. He specifically said 8 for 80 yards versus one for 5 yards. That is by definition calling out a disparity.

He gave a quick one liner and specifically declined an opportunity to comment further. Harbaugh ranted, unprompted, for several minutes. Surely you must see the difference
 
He gave a quick one liner and specifically declined an opportunity to comment further. Harbaugh ranted, unprompted, for several minutes. Surely you must see the difference
I absolutely did if you read above in the thread. Franklin worked the refs in a reasonable matter, and Harbaugh was a whiny punk. I was disagreeing with an earlier poster who suggested that Franklin never said anything - literally anything - about the officials
 
Yes.... there is:


"Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a [defensive] player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious and could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a catchable forward pass. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable."

What it says - clearly - is that when in doubt, consider the pass "catchable" (which makes sense, IMO)…. but on clearly uncatchable passes, there can be no PI (or at least, there is not supposed to be a PI call).



https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rulebook/

I challenge you to find on instance of a game where the ref rules a pass uncatchable by waving his hand over his head or they pick up the flag for such reason. The rule in not applied that way.
 
I wonder what Franklin's attitude would be had he had JoePa's history with the referees in the B1G. I think JoePa was the better man for most of his career. But the officiating simply got so bad with the B1G over a long period that he broke and started voicing his displeasure publicly. If not for that we may not have had instant replay implemented when it was.

I'm not defending Hairball. I prefer Franklin's approach. But there is a limit to what a good man will take. And the B1G referees crossed that line with JoePa.

There is no comparison to Saturday nights game and some of the $hit that went down with PSU when they joined the conference. Massive blatant issues against PSU including crazy levels of holding no calls, missed out of bounds calls, turnover issues, clock issues, phantom penalties, etc...

What is Jimmy complaining about. There was a missed call on a PI with Reid and the first Collins PI was questionable. Contrast that with what at best was a 50/50 Patterson TD or not TD which Michigan got (so Michigan is gifted a TD) and the fact that there were no holding penalties against Michigan the entire game means they got away with a lot of uncalled penalties. Hairballs is a whack job that is only getting crazier by the day and is starting to understand that he is in trouble and is lashing out.
 
There is no comparison to Saturday nights game and some of the $hit that went down with PSU when they joined the conference. Massive blatant issues against PSU including crazy levels of holding no calls, missed out of bounds calls, turnover issues, clock issues, phantom penalties, etc...

What is Jimmy complaining about. There was a missed call on a PI with Reid and the first Collins PI was questionable. Contrast that with what at best was a 50/50 Patterson TD or not TD which Michigan got (so Michigan is gifted a TD) and the fact that there were no holding penalties against Michigan the entire game means they got away with a lot of uncalled penalties. Hairballs is a whack job that is only getting crazier by the day and is starting to understand that he is in trouble and is lashing out.
IIRC, there was also an OSU game at Beaver Stadium where somehow the replay officials where not set up to do replays at the start of a game.
 
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It's just so sweet and so overdue to hear these big ten lickspittles complain about how they were treated by the refs. 11 years is more than 4,000 days. 4,000 days of taking BS from these arrogant swine.

Judge me all you want but I'll NEVER get over it.
 
Yes.... there is:


"Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a [defensive] player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious and could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a catchable forward pass. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable."

What it says - clearly - is that when in doubt, consider the pass "catchable" (which makes sense, IMO)…. but on clearly uncatchable passes, there can be no PI (or at least, there is not supposed to be a PI call).



https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rulebook/
I've never understood the uncatchable ball part of pass interference. So if the ball is 20 tards overthrown and completely uncatchable you can tackle the receiver and there's no repercussion?
 
You'd think Harbaugh would know the rules of the sport.

Defensive holding is not dependent on a catchable ball....pass interference is

we should know, there was one called in the Iowa game that kept their drive alive as well

Next time, don’t go down 21
 
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You took a fact twisted it and just made it up. Also that was on Penn State.
First off you're a dick. Secondly, you're wrong. But since you're a dick on a message board I don't expect an apology.

https://www.dailypress.com/sports/mc-penn-state-james-franklin-officiating-ohio-state-story.html

Ohio State's crucial first-quarter interception against Penn State "was not thoroughly reviewed," according to the game's referee, because the replay crew at Beaver Stadium had equipment problems.
 
It's just so sweet and so overdue to hear these big ten lickspittles complain about how they were treated by the refs. 11 years is more than 4,000 days. 4,000 days of taking BS from these arrogant swine.

Judge me all you want but I'll NEVER get over it.
you haven't been paying attention .... UM fans and coaches have been the biggest officiating whiners since the beginning of time
 
First off you're a dick. Secondly, you're wrong. But since you're a dick on a message board I don't expect an apology.

https://www.dailypress.com/sports/mc-penn-state-james-franklin-officiating-ohio-state-story.html

Ohio State's crucial first-quarter interception against Penn State "was not thoroughly reviewed," according to the game's referee, because the replay crew at Beaver Stadium had equipment problems.

No I'm right, email and ask the head of audio and video Jim Nachman if it was Penn State's fault that the connection was not working due to a PSU error. It had nothing to do with them "not being set up." What were they doing out tailgating.

So call me a dick or whatever.

Do you know the two replay guys who work the monitors down on the field? They are referees out the PIAA state college chapter. The man in charge of the officials on the field is (well now retired) a college and high school baseball ump. Its safe to say i know and have talked to a few of the parties involved.

Now picture my dick metaphorically slapping you across the face. Or maybe you prefer a teabag? Would you like them shaved or hairy?
 
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No I'm right, email and ask the head of audio and video Jim Nachman if it was Penn State's fault that the connection was not working due to a PSU error. It had nothing to do with them "not being set up." What were they doing out tailgating.

So call me a dick or whatever.

Do you know the two replay guys who work the monitors down on the field? They are referees out the PIAA state college chapter. The man in charge of the officials on the field is (well now retired) a college and high school baseball ump. Its safe to say i know and have talked to a few of the parties involved.

Now picture my dick metaphorically slapping you across the face. Or maybe you prefer a teabag? Would you like them shaved or hairy?
Since the big ten had all day to check and see if the system was working before the game started the issue is on them.
 
Since the big ten had all day to check and see if the system was working before the game started the issue is on them.

No, its Penn State's job to ensure that everything related to the game is in complete and working order. Especially when its their equipment. Spin it all you want.
 
The same instant replay that reverses obvious touchdowns by #87? ;)

Any complaint that Harbaugh can muster is silly compared to the purposeful attempt to affect the outcome of a game evidenced by the TD reversal in Iowa...

...and after all of the favoritism in officiating that UM experiences year after year.
And I really thought there was Michigan PI on the long pass down the sideline after they had called back the Hamler kickoff return!!!!
 
No, its Penn State's job to ensure that everything related to the game is in complete and working order. Especially when its their equipment. Spin it all you want.
So never check anything? That is brilliant. My guess the system is tested before games now.
 
There is no comparison to Saturday nights game and some of the $hit that went down with PSU when they joined the conference. Massive blatant issues against PSU including crazy levels of holding no calls, missed out of bounds calls, turnover issues, clock issues, phantom penalties, etc...

What is Jimmy complaining about. There was a missed call on a PI with Reid and the first Collins PI was questionable. Contrast that with what at best was a 50/50 Patterson TD or not TD which Michigan got (so Michigan is gifted a TD) and the fact that there were no holding penalties against Michigan the entire game means they got away with a lot of uncalled penalties. Hairballs is a whack job that is only getting crazier by the day and is starting to understand that he is in trouble and is lashing out.

When we joined the conference? Has it ever stopped?
 
No I'm right, email and ask the head of audio and video Jim Nachman if it was Penn State's fault that the connection was not working due to a PSU error. It had nothing to do with them "not being set up." What were they doing out tailgating.

So call me a dick or whatever.

Do you know the two replay guys who work the monitors down on the field? They are referees out the PIAA state college chapter. The man in charge of the officials on the field is (well now retired) a college and high school baseball ump. Its safe to say i know and have talked to a few of the parties involved.

Now picture my dick metaphorically slapping you across the face. Or maybe you prefer a teabag? Would you like them shaved or hairy?
You're proof of this is telling people to email someone? You're wrong and refuse to admit it, and your homo-erotic fantasies don't change that. However you're very brave hiding behind a keyboard.
 
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No, its Penn State's job to ensure that everything related to the game is in complete and working order. Especially when its their equipment. Spin it all you want.
The rules state every play is "reviewed." Zwinak was injured on the opening kickoff and needed to be carted off. Plenty of time for the replay officials to check their system before a play from scrimmage was even run.
 
The same instant replay that reverses obvious touchdowns by #87? ;)

Any complaint that Harbaugh can muster is silly compared to the purposeful attempt to affect the outcome of a game evidenced by the TD reversal in Iowa...

...and after all of the favoritism in officiating that UM experiences year after year.
Or the same instant replay that mysteriously has technical difficulties when an apparent interception obviously hit the ground?

Anyone else find it coincidental that the B1G implemented instant replay in 2004 which was also the last time UM won (shared) the B1G championship?!
 
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