Haha. I had not read harbaughs full comments before, and did not realize that they were so gay.
I wonder what Franklin's attitude would be had he had JoePa's history with the referees in the B1G. I think JoePa was the better man for most of his career. But the officiating simply got so bad with the B1G over a long period that he broke and started voicing his displeasure publicly. If not for that we may not have had instant replay implemented when it was.
Harbaugh has been living in his own reality for quite a while now. It shouldn't come as a surprise that he also has his reality has different rules for penalties.You'd think Harbaugh would know the rules of the sport.
Defensive holding is not dependent on a catchable ball....pass interference is
You'd think Harbaugh would know the rules of the sport.
Defensive holding is not dependent on a catchable ball....pass interference is
Well, let's be honest, CJF called out the disparity in penalty yd's as recently as in Iowa City.
The difference is, CJF had a legit beef. The officiating was terrible and one sided against Iowa. Last weekend, both teams were burned by a couple of head-scratchers
The same instant replay that reverses obvious touchdowns by #87?I wonder what Franklin's attitude would be had he had JoePa's history with the referees in the B1G. I think JoePa was the better man for most of his career. But the officiating simply got so bad with the B1G over a long period that he broke and started voicing his displeasure publicly. If not for that we may not have had instant replay implemented when it was.
I'm not defending Hairball. I prefer Franklin's approach. But there is a limit to what a good man will take. And the B1G referees crossed that line with JoePa.
There is no standard in PI for the ball to be catchable in college football and there hasn’t been for a few years.
You'd think Harbaugh would know the rules of the sport.
Defensive holding is not dependent on a catchable ball....pass interference is
The angle from the SkyCam shows that the ball couldn't have been caught by Dikembe Mutombo.He got a PI call on a throw to Collins down the sideline on their first scoring drive that nearly ended up in the first row of seats.
No CJF did not cal or disparity. He was asked about it by reporters and he refused to comment. He did reference the 8 to 1, but that was as close as he came.Well, let's be honest, CJF called out the disparity in penalty yd's as recently as in Iowa City.
The difference is, CJF had a legit beef. The officiating was terrible and one sided against Iowa. Last weekend, both teams were burned by a couple of head-scratchers
Holy shit did Penn State get screwed!!!!Decided to look up this huge penalty disparity ...
Michigan - 8 penalties for 48 yards
Penn State - 5 penalties for 58 yards
No CJF did not cal or disparity. He was asked about it by reporters and he refused to comment. He did reference the 8 to 1, but that was as close as he came.
That was exactly what I was referencing. He specifically said 8 for 80 yards versus one for 5 yards. That is by definition calling out a disparity.
I absolutely did if you read above in the thread. Franklin worked the refs in a reasonable matter, and Harbaugh was a whiny punk. I was disagreeing with an earlier poster who suggested that Franklin never said anything - literally anything - about the officialsHe gave a quick one liner and specifically declined an opportunity to comment further. Harbaugh ranted, unprompted, for several minutes. Surely you must see the difference
Yes.... there is:
"Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a [defensive] player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious and could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a catchable forward pass. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable."
What it says - clearly - is that when in doubt, consider the pass "catchable" (which makes sense, IMO)…. but on clearly uncatchable passes, there can be no PI (or at least, there is not supposed to be a PI call).
https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rulebook/
I wonder what Franklin's attitude would be had he had JoePa's history with the referees in the B1G. I think JoePa was the better man for most of his career. But the officiating simply got so bad with the B1G over a long period that he broke and started voicing his displeasure publicly. If not for that we may not have had instant replay implemented when it was.
I'm not defending Hairball. I prefer Franklin's approach. But there is a limit to what a good man will take. And the B1G referees crossed that line with JoePa.
IIRC, there was also an OSU game at Beaver Stadium where somehow the replay officials where not set up to do replays at the start of a game.There is no comparison to Saturday nights game and some of the $hit that went down with PSU when they joined the conference. Massive blatant issues against PSU including crazy levels of holding no calls, missed out of bounds calls, turnover issues, clock issues, phantom penalties, etc...
What is Jimmy complaining about. There was a missed call on a PI with Reid and the first Collins PI was questionable. Contrast that with what at best was a 50/50 Patterson TD or not TD which Michigan got (so Michigan is gifted a TD) and the fact that there were no holding penalties against Michigan the entire game means they got away with a lot of uncalled penalties. Hairballs is a whack job that is only getting crazier by the day and is starting to understand that he is in trouble and is lashing out.
There is no standard in PI for the ball to be catchable in college football and there hasn’t been for a few years.
IIRC, there was also an OSU game at Beaver Stadium where somehow the replay officials where not set up to do replays at the start of a game.
I've never understood the uncatchable ball part of pass interference. So if the ball is 20 tards overthrown and completely uncatchable you can tackle the receiver and there's no repercussion?Yes.... there is:
"Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a [defensive] player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious and could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a catchable forward pass. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable."
What it says - clearly - is that when in doubt, consider the pass "catchable" (which makes sense, IMO)…. but on clearly uncatchable passes, there can be no PI (or at least, there is not supposed to be a PI call).
https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rulebook/
You'd think Harbaugh would know the rules of the sport.
Defensive holding is not dependent on a catchable ball....pass interference is
First off you're a dick. Secondly, you're wrong. But since you're a dick on a message board I don't expect an apology.You took a fact twisted it and just made it up. Also that was on Penn State.
you haven't been paying attention .... UM fans and coaches have been the biggest officiating whiners since the beginning of timeIt's just so sweet and so overdue to hear these big ten lickspittles complain about how they were treated by the refs. 11 years is more than 4,000 days. 4,000 days of taking BS from these arrogant swine.
Judge me all you want but I'll NEVER get over it.
First off you're a dick. Secondly, you're wrong. But since you're a dick on a message board I don't expect an apology.
https://www.dailypress.com/sports/mc-penn-state-james-franklin-officiating-ohio-state-story.html
Ohio State's crucial first-quarter interception against Penn State "was not thoroughly reviewed," according to the game's referee, because the replay crew at Beaver Stadium had equipment problems.
Since the big ten had all day to check and see if the system was working before the game started the issue is on them.No I'm right, email and ask the head of audio and video Jim Nachman if it was Penn State's fault that the connection was not working due to a PSU error. It had nothing to do with them "not being set up." What were they doing out tailgating.
So call me a dick or whatever.
Do you know the two replay guys who work the monitors down on the field? They are referees out the PIAA state college chapter. The man in charge of the officials on the field is (well now retired) a college and high school baseball ump. Its safe to say i know and have talked to a few of the parties involved.
Now picture my dick metaphorically slapping you across the face. Or maybe you prefer a teabag? Would you like them shaved or hairy?
Since the big ten had all day to check and see if the system was working before the game started the issue is on them.
And I really thought there was Michigan PI on the long pass down the sideline after they had called back the Hamler kickoff return!!!!The same instant replay that reverses obvious touchdowns by #87?
Any complaint that Harbaugh can muster is silly compared to the purposeful attempt to affect the outcome of a game evidenced by the TD reversal in Iowa...
...and after all of the favoritism in officiating that UM experiences year after year.
So never check anything? That is brilliant. My guess the system is tested before games now.No, its Penn State's job to ensure that everything related to the game is in complete and working order. Especially when its their equipment. Spin it all you want.
There is no comparison to Saturday nights game and some of the $hit that went down with PSU when they joined the conference. Massive blatant issues against PSU including crazy levels of holding no calls, missed out of bounds calls, turnover issues, clock issues, phantom penalties, etc...
What is Jimmy complaining about. There was a missed call on a PI with Reid and the first Collins PI was questionable. Contrast that with what at best was a 50/50 Patterson TD or not TD which Michigan got (so Michigan is gifted a TD) and the fact that there were no holding penalties against Michigan the entire game means they got away with a lot of uncalled penalties. Hairballs is a whack job that is only getting crazier by the day and is starting to understand that he is in trouble and is lashing out.
You're proof of this is telling people to email someone? You're wrong and refuse to admit it, and your homo-erotic fantasies don't change that. However you're very brave hiding behind a keyboard.No I'm right, email and ask the head of audio and video Jim Nachman if it was Penn State's fault that the connection was not working due to a PSU error. It had nothing to do with them "not being set up." What were they doing out tailgating.
So call me a dick or whatever.
Do you know the two replay guys who work the monitors down on the field? They are referees out the PIAA state college chapter. The man in charge of the officials on the field is (well now retired) a college and high school baseball ump. Its safe to say i know and have talked to a few of the parties involved.
Now picture my dick metaphorically slapping you across the face. Or maybe you prefer a teabag? Would you like them shaved or hairy?
The rules state every play is "reviewed." Zwinak was injured on the opening kickoff and needed to be carted off. Plenty of time for the replay officials to check their system before a play from scrimmage was even run.No, its Penn State's job to ensure that everything related to the game is in complete and working order. Especially when its their equipment. Spin it all you want.
Or the same instant replay that mysteriously has technical difficulties when an apparent interception obviously hit the ground?The same instant replay that reverses obvious touchdowns by #87?
Any complaint that Harbaugh can muster is silly compared to the purposeful attempt to affect the outcome of a game evidenced by the TD reversal in Iowa...
...and after all of the favoritism in officiating that UM experiences year after year.