All I can say is I hope you are right but don't see it happening.
Nevertheless, we are not losing to Minny so this whole tortured back and forth is futile.
CBS sports "doomsday scenario" that excludes PSU and Indiana from the playoffs
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Nevertheless, we are not losing to Minny so this whole tortured back and forth is futile.
I am very curious how Indiana will handle a team full of elite talent. Very interesting to me, but I don't believe Indiana can hang even if they do make the playoffs.
Teams that should (and would) get in over a 2 loss PSU:
SEC Champ
Big Ten Champ
Big 12 Champ
ACC Champ
Group of 5 (probably Boise St)
Non-SEC champ Georgia, Texas, Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, Texas A&M (so 5 other SEC teams)
Non Big Ten Champ Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana (so 2 other Big Ten teams)
Notre Dame
Non ACC Champ Miami, Clemson, SMU (one of these two loss teams would certainly have an argument)
That's 14 teams that could be above PSU. Not to mention an 11-1 Washington St if it wins out.
One more loss puts Penn State's chances of a playoff a good bit under 50%. The schedule was just too weak. Every team competing with them for a spot would have more impressive wins.
The easy solution is to just not lose any of the last three. If this team is worth half a damn, they won't.
SEC Champ
Big Ten Champ
Big 12 Champ
ACC Champ
Group of 5 (probably Boise St)
Non-SEC champ Georgia, Texas, Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, Texas A&M (so 5 other SEC teams)
Non Big Ten Champ Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana (so 2 other Big Ten teams)
Notre Dame
Non ACC Champ Miami, Clemson, SMU (one of these two loss teams would certainly have an argument)
That's 14 teams that could be above PSU. Not to mention an 11-1 Washington St if it wins out.
One more loss puts Penn State's chances of a playoff a good bit under 50%. The schedule was just too weak. Every team competing with them for a spot would have more impressive wins.
The easy solution is to just not lose any of the last three. If this team is worth half a damn, they won't.
Yeah, I agree it's likely futile but if we do lose to Minny I won't be at all nervous--hopefully we don't find out who's right and walk away with the 6 seed.
That's not accurate at all. The non-ACC champ is literally hysterical but then you said Wazzu which is even more hysterical
We're in with 2 losses--unless Indiana beat Ohio State we're ahead of them--you can't say our schedule is too weak and then talk about Indiana, Wazzu or an ACC runner up being in.
Not sure why it's "wishful thinking"--I don't think anyone's ever accused me of being too biased toward Penn State lol
Good analysis.
The term I've been using for us having 2 losses: playing with fire.
It's possible we could still make the cut with some help but I think the chances are south of 50-50 because we simply don't have the signature win. We have some decent wins but none that move the needle big-time.
As it is, however, the committee seems to like us, based on the last ranking. That means our playoff fate is in our own hands. 11-1 record. Playoff home game. All there for the taking. Can't ask for more than that with three games to go.
Or just in general cuz it is fun seeing ND lose
I would guess Sag takes margin of victory into consideration. Only mathematical things I can think of that would prop those 2 up.
A 2-loss ND would be more deserving of a bid than a 2-loss PSU. Their wins over Texas A&M and Louisville are better than any wins PSU has.
They lost to NIU and would need to lose another game. They may not even be ahead of Penn State if Penn State has 2 losses and they have 1
The word deserving continues to create problems
While Penn State isn’t going to lose anymore ND loss to Northern Illinois eliminates them with 2 losses.
NIU is as good as any team remaining on PSU's schedule.
See this is when you show you're insane
They've lost 3 MAC games and to NC State
BGSU also beat them easily
As I mentioned here or in a different thread: if there is a God, Army will beat ND and go undefeated. That would be immensely great playoff theatre.
And their loss to NIU is worse than any loss PSU could possible have.
Also, Illinois is on par with Louisville.
Also, Notre Dame's schedule is overall poor - only 8 total Power 4 teams compared to 10 Power 4 teams played for PSU and others.
If by "beat them easily", you mean lost to them by more than they lost to PSU, then I agree.
Yet another argument you enter where you know none of the facts, yet try to come off like an expert.
No way. ND is out with a second loss. The scenario where PSU has two losses they would certainly be ahead of a two loss ND. Think about it. They lost to NIU at home (bad loss) then assuming they lose to USC and we beat USC. Cut and dry.
A home loss no NIU is so bad it should be an automatic DQ from the playoffs no matter who else they beat.
Correct--easily--double digit win that was never close
What facts do you think I'm missing here? You foolishly said NIU is as good as anyone remaining on our schedule. They aren't. They'd be an underdog to 2 of them.
I wouldn't go that far but it's pretty close to that. To overcome that loss you have to do something special. A&M winning out would help them. But they also need Louisville to win out. Even then their SOS is going to finish 30-40 spots behind us.
What is propping up our sos? OSU? The combination of a bunch of .500 and just over .500 teams?
USC despite their record helps--even Wisconsin helps us just like they help Bama
And we haven't played anyone horrible other than Kent State.
It would help if WVU and Illinois win some games
Please read this slowly so you can understand.
You said Bowling Green beat NIU easily. You are wrong. Bowling Green lost to NIU. In fact, NIU beat Bowling Green by more points than PSU beat Bowling Green.
Those are the facts you were missing. Try harder.
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Illinois is now better than Louisville. His entire scenario took about 3 or 4 shots to the jaw today...
