SIAP.....Freeh out at Pepper Hamilton

[demlion]

So did Pepper Hamilton quietly ask him to pack his suitcase? Spanier's lawsuit is looming - would that bring blowback to PH if Louis is still around?

I am also amazed that this information comes just as we learn that Terry Mutchler has joined PH as the head of its new "transparency law" practice. "The Transparency Practice is designed to promote open government from a media, government and corporate perspective."
http://www.pepperlaw.com/people/terry-l-mutchler/

So, you run off Louis Freeh and open a "transparency law" practice all in the same week. Bold. I suspect the day will come when Ms. Mutchler is going to feel as though she has been used.

Especially if Louie gets nailed with an indictment or a big civil suit soon.

 

[Marshall30]

That's 'Judge' Freeh to you, mister.

I think "Judge" Freeh has finally shit the bed.

 

[pandaczar12]

Not hard on me at all. Quite the opposite. I'm sitting here four years in with a cheshire cat grin knowing the university is and will continue to be better because of the courageous decisions made by some remarkable people under extremely difficult circumstances. Do we still have a nationally recognized academic/research institution? Do we still have a very good and financially stable Athletic's department? Do kids still want to come to PSU to learn? Is our endowment growing? The answer is yes, yes, yes and yes.

Sadly, the misanthropes will continue to come here and find fault with almost everything in life including all that is right with PSU. To you I say if you don't like what you see or hear then go find another school to support rather than bash everything and everybody that is pro PSU. You're not wanted. What sad miserable people some of you must be to come here every single day to rant, criticize, and create fictions about things or people you know little about. Go get a life! And the naivete of some of you is without bounds. The PSU train is moving forward into a bright future at break neck.speed and you think by criticizing the engineer from afar he's about to slow it down? Not happening now or anytime in your lifetime because we control the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity.

You and your minions can take all the pot shots at me you want but I take comfort in the fact that I can sleep well at night because I'm on the winning team while you......well you don't even have a team.

Stop using "we" when referring to the university we love and you hate. We are Penn State, you are not.

 

[Marshall30]

Stop using "we" when referring to the university we love and you hate. We are Penn State, you are not.

66. Virgo and I love...66 is a "floater" in the toilet.

 

[marshall23]

Have the Old Guard Trustees and its hand picked stooge presidents: 1. Made questionable decisions which have cost "The University" hundreds of millions of dollars? 2. Permitted Louis Freeh to grandstand and proclaim largely unsubstantiated "reasonable conclusions" which doomed alumni to suffer contempt and derision?3. Destroy the reputations of university employees in an effort to "move on" and focus attention away from their malfeasance? The answers? YES, YES, YES!

 

[kentuckycb]

Not hard on me at all. Quite the opposite. I'm sitting here four years in with a cheshire cat grin knowing the university is and will continue to be better because of the courageous decisions made by some remarkable people under extremely difficult circumstances. Do we still have a nationally recognized academic/research institution? Do we still have a very good and financially stable Athletic's department? Do kids still want to come to PSU to learn? Is our endowment growing? The answer is yes, yes, yes and yes.

Sadly, the misanthropes will continue to come here and find fault with almost everything in life including all that is right with PSU. To you I say if you don't like what you see or hear then go find another school to support rather than bash everything and everybody that is pro PSU. You're not wanted. What sad miserable people some of you must be to come here every single day to rant, criticize, and create fictions about things or people you know little about. Go get a life! And the naivete of some of you is without bounds. The PSU train is moving forward into a bright future at break neck.speed and you think by criticizing the engineer from afar he's about to slow it down? Not happening now or anytime in your lifetime because we control the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity.

You and your minions can take all the pot shots at me you want but I take comfort in the fact that I can sleep well at night because I'm on the winning team while you......well you don't even have a team.

No. What this sad scenario exemplifies is that sometimes life is unfair. Sometimes good takes a back seat because evil has a turn at the wheel. But that's OK. Life has a way of evening the score. Sometimes it takes a lot of time and pressure to move a mountain. I'm fine waiting.

People take pot shots at you because they're understandably frustrated by the long wait and you choose to antagonize them along the way. But that's OK. Like you I wait with a smile on my face. I remember fondly my time at Penn State. I remember meeting my wife and best friends. I remember the special bond my father and I share because we both cheered for Joe Paterno as students. Evil will never touch those memories. You can have your "team" ...I have something far more valuable.

You're right that Penn State is moving forward. All great institutions do. At its core Penn State is a place of good. And someday the evil of the past will be corrected.

 

[dwiz]

Why is that? Because you didn't get the result you were expecting? At the time of his hire no one was complaining about Freeh being tabbed to conduct the investigation. No one. Ken and Ron initially wanted Chertoff but for very legitimate reasons, Freeh got the nod. My guess is that you would be saying Chertoff or Guliani would have been a bad decision if either one of them would have been hired and had come to the same conclusions as Freeh. No?

Lol. Everyone on hear knew what was about to happen when Freeh was hired. Get a clue. You were on the board 18 hours a day when this went down.

 

[Sharkies]

The old corporate auditor in me suspects there is another shoe yet to drop. Something else, something big that Louie f'ed up. This indictment of the Wilmington Trust is certainly concerning since Louie was on the Board, but as we have seen in our own case, it is hard to make these corporate swells own what they condoned.

I think after we wait a while we will see why this happened.

Love reading your posts on here, Dem. Just wanted to let you know that.

 

[demlion]

Love reading your posts on here, Dem. Just wanted to let you know that.

Thanks Sharkies. Who wouldn't want to hear that?

 

[Agoodnap]

The best thing you can do with turd66 is put the imbecile on ignore. He will then disappear.

No. The entertainment value is well worth the price.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

No. The entertainment value is well worth the price.

Along those lines:

One of the greatest gifts that has been bestowed on all the folks who desire to see the truth ultimately revealed, and to see PSU (and the entire PSU community) emancipated from the Scoundrels is..........the pretentious, pious "CR Attitude" that is displayed by those Scoundrels.

It is amazing that they - for all these years - have placed that condescending "FU" attitude on such consistent display....when, if they had any sense at all - if they had any ability whatsoever to sense "which way the wind is blowing" - they would have known that all they had to do to mute the disconcert (what they viewed as a "rebellion") was to take the stance of:

"Hey, we were wrong. Things were spinning faster than we could adjust...and we really weren't able to handle things as well as we should have. With the benefit of hindsight - and, yes, we recognize the irony of that statement - we should have reacted differently."

Issue a few mea culpas, make some public show of amends in the form of a "Paterno Tribute"....and they would have reduced the friction against them by 90%.


It would have been all a load of bullsh^t, of course, but 90% of the folks upset with them would have accepted it (swallowed it) and "Moved On".....because, quite frankly, that is a lot easier to do than "Fight On"

But, thank goodness, they just COULDN'T do that. Their egotistical, entitled ethos is just SO ingrained in them....that they just COULDN'T.
And, instead, they have doubled down time and time and time again - with a losing hand.


And now, as a result, we not only have the opportunity to "give this Board an enema"....but we have also reaped INCREDIBLE exposure of the horrendous behavior - STATEWIDE - of the Judiciary, the Prosecutorial Offices, and - to some extent - the Political Racket.

How far will the exposure go? Who knows....but if there is not another step forward, it has already deposed an asshole Governor, prevented another puppet AG from taking office, evicted a couple of corrupt Justices from the PaSC, probably ended the careers (at least muted them) of a handful of scumbag Prosecutors, etc etc. NONE of that happens if the Scoundrels had the ability to NOT behave like entitled douchebags.


Those ass-clowns have screwed the pooch more than they could ever have imagined.....in many ways, they are the Jelly of the Month Club - - the "Gift that Keeps on Giving"

 

[dwiz]

Perhaps Louie will have more time now to enjoy some leisurely drives in the country.

http://louisfreeh.com

That website is awesome

 

[demlion]

"Hey, we were wrong. Things were spinning faster than we could adjust...and we really weren't able to handle things as well as we should have. With the benefit of hindsight - and, yes, we recognize the irony of that statement - we should have reacted differently."

Issue a few mea culpas, make some public show of amends in the form of a "Paterno Tribute"....and they would have reduced the friction against them by 90%.

"

Apologies, even thin ones like the one you suggest, are the primary means of rebuilding trust which has been broken. And we have trust which has been broken by the trainload. We have to build a bridge over the creek which divides us, even though some see it as a mighty, flood-stage river.

You don't build a bridge across the creek ( or "crick", if you prefer) without disturbing the dirt on both sides. You have to dig down and put a firm foundation in place, or the bridge you build will not hold the weight. Not sure we have dug the dirt and built the foundation yet, so it may be premature to talk about rebuilding the bridge.

I sure do want to see a bunch more dirt dug up on both sides of the creek.

 

[tboyer]

Why is that? Because you didn't get the result you were expecting? At the time of his hire no one was complaining about Freeh being tabbed to conduct the investigation. No one. Ken and Ron initially wanted Chertoff but for very legitimate reasons, Freeh got the nod. My guess is that you would be saying Chertoff or Guliani would have been a bad decision if either one of them would have been hired and had come to the same conclusions as Freeh. No?

I think it's clear now that Freeh is a bungler. Knowing what we know how, the BOT wouldn't hire him for anything complex or sensitive -- nobody would. He's a loose cannon. I suppose it wasn't so clear at the time -- though people should have looked at his career, particularly his mishandling of the Atlanta bombings and his reputation as an egomaniacal prick. He was the wrong man for the job.

What they would have gotten from a Chertoff or a Guiliani (or, for that matter, a Tom Ridge or Dick Thornburgh or Colin Powell) would have been largely the same fact-finding report but without the self-aggrandizing press conference and unfounded speculation about a conspiracy among top PSU officials to cover the whole thing up.

It would have been plenty bad enough to say Penn State blew an opportunity to stop this guy years 10 years earlier. But Freeh made it into a catastrophe by stretching the facts and speculating that Spanier, Schultz, Curley, Paterno all KNEW Sandusky was a child molester and they intentionally let him continue what he was doing. The evidence just does not support that.

It's a more nuanced story, and nuances are important. But from everything I saw, Freeh was more interested in being a media star and stroking his own ego than in telling an accurate story.

 

[simons96]

I think it's clear now that Freeh is a bungler. Knowing what we know how, the BOT wouldn't hire him for anything complex or sensitive -- nobody would. He's a loose cannon. I suppose it wasn't so clear at the time -- though people should have looked at his career, particularly his mishandling of the Atlanta bombings and his reputation as an egomaniacal prick. He was the wrong man for the job.

What they would have gotten from a Chertoff or a Guiliani (or, for that matter, a Tom Ridge or Dick Thornburgh or Colin Powell) would have been largely the same fact-finding report but without the self-aggrandizing press conference and unfounded speculation about a conspiracy among top PSU officials to cover the whole thing up.

It would have been plenty bad enough to say Penn State blew an opportunity to stop this guy years 10 years earlier. But Freeh made it into a catastrophe by stretching the facts and speculating that Spanier, Schultz, Curley, Paterno all KNEW Sandusky was a child molester and they intentionally let him continue what he was doing. The evidence just does not support that.

It's a more nuanced story, and nuances are important. But from everything I saw, Freeh was more interested in being a media star and stroking his own ego than in telling an accurate story.

I recall my first reading of the Freeh Report, and wondering when I was going to see some "evidence"

I even mentioned to a PSU friend that if there really was a "cover up", and Freeh really did review 3 million documents, somewhere in there would be a mention of the word "molestation". or someone saying, "Sweet molasses, peeps, we're talking about a boy being molested by Sandusky!" Even Spanier's email about their liability is a trick in actually being able to understand English. He does not say what Freeh said he said.

 

[91Joe95]

Along those lines:

One of the greatest gifts that has been bestowed on all the folks who desire to see the truth ultimately revealed, and to see PSU (and the entire PSU community) emancipated from the Scoundrels is..........the pretentious, pious "CR Attitude" that is displayed by those Scoundrels.

It is amazing that they - for all these years - have placed that condescending "FU" attitude on such consistent display....when, if they had any sense at all - if they had any ability whatsoever to sense "which way the wind is blowing" - they would have known that all they had to do to mute the disconcert (what they viewed as a "rebellion") was to take the stance of:

"Hey, we were wrong. Things were spinning faster than we could adjust...and we really weren't able to handle things as well as we should have. With the benefit of hindsight - and, yes, we recognize the irony of that statement - we should have reacted differently."

Issue a few mea culpas, make some public show of amends in the form of a "Paterno Tribute"....and they would have reduced the friction against them by 90%.


It would have been all a load of bullsh^t, of course, but 90% of the folks upset with them would have accepted it (swallowed it) and "Moved On".....because, quite frankly, that is a lot easier to do than "Fight On"

But, thank goodness, they just COULDN'T do that. Their egotistical, entitled ethos is just SO ingrained in them....that they just COULDN'T.
And, instead, they have doubled down time and time and time again - with a losing hand.


And now, as a result, we not only have the opportunity to "give this Board an enema"....but we have also reaped INCREDIBLE exposure of the horrendous behavior - STATEWIDE - of the Judiciary, the Prosecutorial Offices, and - to some extent - the Political Racket.

How far will the exposure go? Who knows....but if there is not another step forward, it has already deposed an asshole Governor, prevented another puppet AG from taking office, evicted a couple of corrupt Justices from the PaSC, probably ended the careers (at least muted them) of a handful of scumbag Prosecutors, etc etc. NONE of that happens if the Scoundrels had the ability to NOT behave like entitled douchebags.


Those ass-clowns have screwed the pooch more than they could ever have imagined.....in many ways, they are the Jelly of the Month Club - - the "Gift that Keeps on Giving"

Its like crazy and his cronies can read your words, but they have no idea what they mean.

Edit: lol, just realized "cr" got auto corrected to "crazy". Honestly, I think its both better and more apropos. It stays.

 

[Aoshiro]

Not hard on me at all. Quite the opposite. I'm sitting here four years in with a cheshire cat grin knowing the university is and will continue to be better because of the courageous decisions made by some remarkable people under extremely difficult circumstances. Do we still have a nationally recognized academic/research institution? Do we still have a very good and financially stable Athletic's department? Do kids still want to come to PSU to learn? Is our endowment growing? The answer is yes, yes, yes and yes.

Sadly, the misanthropes will continue to come here and find fault with almost everything in life including all that is right with PSU. To you I say if you don't like what you see or hear then go find another school to support rather than bash everything and everybody that is pro PSU. You're not wanted. What sad miserable people some of you must be to come here every single day to rant, criticize, and create fictions about things or people you know little about. Go get a life! And the naivete of some of you is without bounds. The PSU train is moving forward into a bright future at break neck.speed and you think by criticizing the engineer from afar he's about to slow it down? Not happening now or anytime in your lifetime because we control the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity.

You and your minions can take all the pot shots at me you want but I take comfort in the fact that I can sleep well at night because I'm on the winning team while you......well you don't even have a team.

This is what you and your friends accomplished.

 

[tboyer]

I recall my first reading of the Freeh Report, and wondering when I was going to see some "evidence"

I even mentioned to a PSU friend that if there really was a "cover up", and Freeh really did review 3 million documents, somewhere in there would be a mention of the word "molestation". or someone saying, "Sweet molasses, peeps, we're talking about a boy being molested by Sandusky!" Even Spanier's email about their liability is a trick in actually being able to understand English. He does not say what Freeh said he said.

Yeah, the reason you spend millions of dollars on a fact-finder is to distinguish between what is fact and what is supposition. Especially in this case people were making a lot of assumptions about what happened, and there was a need to determine whether those assumptions were at least reasonable given the evidence.

Freeh did just the opposite of a fact-finding report. He gave HIS assumptions NOT backed up by the evidence.

If he had been a real professional, he would have said, these are serious allegations that merit further investigations but the evidence falls short of proving any kind of conspiracy. He would have said the emails can be read in a way that supports people's suspicions or that they could be also read in a more innocuous context.

That would have been the brave and ethical thing to do. If he had done that, Freeh would have taken some criticism from the national media. He would have made Mark Emmert mad because Emmert had his own agenda.

Instead Freeh did the easy and unethical thing. He withheld the report from the press for the initial news cycle. Remember how Freeh's web site had "technical difficulties" for the first 10 hours, preventing the national press from seeing the actual report and forcing them to write stories based on the statements Freeh made at the press conference.

I don't believe that part came from the BOT. I can't see them coming up with that as a plan -- "so you didn't find any evidence, Louis, so just hide the report from the press and just speculate about conspiracy on national TV so Mark Emmert can kill hammer PSU." Some people believe that was the plan of the BOT cabal but I just have trouble believing that. It seems more likely it was just Freeh's ego, serving himself and also just plain sloppiness and love of the TV cameras.

Here's another reason I don't think the BOT planned it -- If you look at the guy's record, it's just the Peter Principle. Ever since he had jobs of major responsibility, he has botched one thing after another. He messes everything he touches -- and yet he's really good at blaming others so it never comes back at him. Well this time it finally did. Partly because people at PSU wouldn't let it rest.

 

[Aoshiro]

Yeah, the reason you spend millions of dollars on a fact-finder is to distinguish between what is fact and what is supposition. Especially in this case people were making a lot of assumptions about what happened, and there was a need to determine whether those assumptions were at least reasonable given the evidence.

Freeh did just the opposite of a fact-finding report. He gave HIS assumptions NOT backed up by the evidence.

If he had been a real professional, he would have said, these are serious allegations that merit further investigations but the evidence falls short of proving any kind of conspiracy. He would have said the emails can be read in a way that supports people's suspicions or that they could be also read in a more innocuous context.

That would have been the brave and ethical thing to do. If he had done that, Freeh would have taken some criticism from the national media. He would have made Mark Emmert mad because Emmert had his own agenda.

Instead Freeh did the easy and unethical thing. He withheld the report from the press for the initial news cycle. Remember how Freeh's web site had "technical difficulties" for the first 10 hours, preventing the national press from seeing the actual report and forcing them to write stories based on the statements Freeh made at the press conference.

I don't believe that part came from the BOT. I can't see them coming up with that as a plan -- "so you didn't find any evidence, Louis, so just hide the report from the press and just speculate about conspiracy on national TV so Mark Emmert can kill hammer PSU. Some people believe that was the plan of the BOT cabal but I just have trouble believing that. It seems more likely it was just Freeh's ego, serving himself and also just plain sloppiness and love of the TV cameras.

Here's another reason I don't think the BOT planned it -- If you look at the guy's record, it's just the Peter Principle. Ever since he had jobs of major responsibility, he has botched one thing after another. He messes everything he touches -- and yet he's really good at blaming others so it never comes back at him. Well this time it finally did. Partly because people at PSU wouldn't let it rest.

Oh Louis Freeh was definitely in it for himself. Look at the way his firm was soliciting NCAA business in the middle of an "independent" investigation.
But the trustees were in on it too. They were furious about the community backlash to the Paterno firing. We were all supposed to hail them as brave heroes and accept that Paterno was fundamentally flawed. So they hired Freeh to sell their version. There is no other reason for them to allow Freeh to engage in his grandstanding. There is absolutely no other reason that Penn State has been fighting against the disclosure of the Freeh materials. If Freeh went rogue, then the trustees would have every reason to reveal his files and throw him under the bus. But Freeh did exactly what he was told to do. Scott P has hinted on Twitter that there's an earlier version of the Report that perhaps did not say what the trustees wanted it to say. We'll see...

 

[StinkStankStunk]

Yeah, the reason you spend millions of dollars on a fact-finder is to distinguish between what is fact and what is supposition. Especially in this case people were making a lot of assumptions about what happened, and there was a need to determine whether those assumptions were at least reasonable given the evidence.

Freeh did just the opposite of a fact-finding report. He gave HIS assumptions NOT backed up by the evidence.

If he had been a real professional, he would have said, these are serious allegations that merit further investigations but the evidence falls short of proving any kind of conspiracy. He would have said the emails can be read in a way that supports people's suspicions or that they could be also read in a more innocuous context.

That would have been the brave and ethical thing to do. If he had done that, Freeh would have taken some criticism from the national media. He would have made Mark Emmert mad because Emmert had his own agenda.

Instead Freeh did the easy and unethical thing. He withheld the report from the press for the initial news cycle. Remember how Freeh's web site had "technical difficulties" for the first 10 hours, preventing the national press from seeing the actual report and forcing them to write stories based on the statements Freeh made at the press conference.

I don't believe that part came from the BOT. I can't see them coming up with that as a plan -- "so you didn't find any evidence, Louis, so just hide the report from the press and just speculate about conspiracy on national TV so Mark Emmert can kill hammer PSU." Some people believe that was the plan of the BOT cabal but I just have trouble believing that. It seems more likely it was just Freeh's ego, serving himself and also just plain sloppiness and love of the TV cameras.

Here's another reason I don't think the BOT planned it -- If you look at the guy's record, it's just the Peter Principle. Ever since he had jobs of major responsibility, he has botched one thing after another. He messes everything he touches -- and yet he's really good at blaming others so it never comes back at him. Well this time it finally did. Partly because people at PSU wouldn't let it rest.

If the BOT Scoundrels were not complicit........

1 - They would have been FURIOUS at the shoddy work they purchased for $8,000,000....right?

2 - They most certainly would have held His Honor to his promise to come back and explain/defend his work....right?

3 - They certainly would not have accepted his "report" (and really, not even accept the "report" so much as accept the so called conclusions) at face value, and paid out $100,000,000s as a result of it....right?

4 - They would have torn into the details of those "evidentiary" documents - to see just what basis there was for His Honor's conclusions....right?

etc etc etc........



Instead - from July of 2012 until Today (and every day in between) - they did the EXACT OPPOSITE of what one would do if they were NOT complicit in this abortion of an "investigation".

It don't take no rocket surgeon to figure out what that means.

 

[simons96]

Yeah, the reason you spend millions of dollars on a fact-finder is to distinguish between what is fact and what is supposition. Especially in this case people were making a lot of assumptions about what happened, and there was a need to determine whether those assumptions were at least reasonable given the evidence.

Freeh did just the opposite of a fact-finding report. He gave HIS assumptions NOT backed up by the evidence.

If he had been a real professional, he would have said, these are serious allegations that merit further investigations but the evidence falls short of proving any kind of conspiracy. He would have said the emails can be read in a way that supports people's suspicions or that they could be also read in a more innocuous context.

That would have been the brave and ethical thing to do. If he had done that, Freeh would have taken some criticism from the national media. He would have made Mark Emmert mad because Emmert had his own agenda.

Instead Freeh did the easy and unethical thing. He withheld the report from the press for the initial news cycle. Remember how Freeh's web site had "technical difficulties" for the first 10 hours, preventing the national press from seeing the actual report and forcing them to write stories based on the statements Freeh made at the press conference.

I don't believe that part came from the BOT. I can't see them coming up with that as a plan -- "so you didn't find any evidence, Louis, so just hide the report from the press and just speculate about conspiracy on national TV so Mark Emmert can kill hammer PSU." Some people believe that was the plan of the BOT cabal but I just have trouble believing that. It seems more likely it was just Freeh's ego, serving himself and also just plain sloppiness and love of the TV cameras.

Here's another reason I don't think the BOT planned it -- If you look at the guy's record, it's just the Peter Principle. Ever since he had jobs of major responsibility, he has botched one thing after another. He messes everything he touches -- and yet he's really good at blaming others so it never comes back at him. Well this time it finally did. Partly because people at PSU wouldn't let it rest.

I wish I had handy the image of the "pre news conference" notes he had already ripped up and discarded . . .

 

[tgar]

so, I must have missed it.

when is Freeh coming back to defend his work?

when is Peetz conducting town hall meetings?

when is Barron reviewing the Freeh report?

all of these folks got their days of publicity from these stunts, when are they going to show up?

 

[Aoshiro]

I wish I had handy the image of the "pre news conference" notes he had already ripped up and discarded . . .

Page 3

https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/9...llow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll

 

[simons96]

Page 3

https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/9...llow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll

thanks! more evidence of a Freeh cover up than anything the PSU admins did . . . just sayin

 

[lionlurker]

so, I must have missed it.

when is Freeh coming back to defend his work?

when is Peetz conducting town hall meetings?

when is Barron reviewing the Freeh report?

all of these folks got their days of publicity from these stunts, when are they going to show up?

When is this all going to become a distant memory?

 

[Aoshiro]

thanks! more evidence of a Freeh cover up than anything the PSU admins did . . . just sayin

It proves that Freeh deliberately orchestrated his press conference so that reporters would not have a chance to read the report before asking him questions.

 

[simons96]

When is this all going to become a distant memory?

2 years from 4 years ago, according to Kween Karen.

 

[dwiz]

Can somebody post the photo of quasimodo (aka Freeh after his car accident) where his eye looks like it is sunken into his face? He looks like Droopy the Dog in it. I can't find it anywhere.

 

[Aoshiro]

Can somebody post the photo of quasimodo (aka Freeh after his car accident) where his eye looks like it is sunken into his face? He looks like Droopy the Dog in it. I can't find it anywhere.

 

[dwiz]

Nice, hadn't seen that one before. The other one is him inside in an office. No wonder he makes himself scarce now.

 

[Aoshiro]

Nice, hadn't seen that one before. The other one is him inside in an office. No wonder he makes himself scarce now.

Oh no. He grabs the spotlight whenever he can.
Who can forget his appearance alongside Tom Ridge at an event to foment war against Iran?
Anyone want to guess how much they got paid?

 

[marshall23]

Oh Louis Freeh was definitely in it for himself. Look at the way his firm was soliciting NCAA business in the middle of an "independent" investigation.
But the trustees were in on it too. They were furious about the community backlash to the Paterno firing. We were all supposed to hail them as brave heroes and accept that Paterno was fundamentally flawed. So they hired Freeh to sell their version. There is no other reason for them to allow Freeh to engage in his grandstanding. There is absolutely no other reason that Penn State has been fighting against the disclosure of the Freeh materials. If Freeh went rogue, then the trustees would have every reason to reveal his files and throw him under the bus. But Freeh did exactly what he was told to do. Scott P has hinted on Twitter that there's an earlier version of the Report that perhaps did not say what the trustees wanted it to say. We'll see...

I had to read this twice to realize I didn't write it! This is clearly what happened and I am certain there was more than one draft of the Freeh Smear.

 

[berkland4]

Not hard on me at all. Quite the opposite. I'm sitting here four years in with a cheshire cat grin knowing the university is and will continue to be better because of the courageous decisions made by some remarkable people under extremely difficult circumstances. Do we still have a nationally recognized academic/research institution? Do we still have a very good and financially stable Athletic's department? Do kids still want to come to PSU to learn? Is our endowment growing? The answer is yes, yes, yes and yes.

Sadly, the misanthropes will continue to come here and find fault with almost everything in life including all that is right with PSU. To you I say if you don't like what you see or hear then go find another school to support rather than bash everything and everybody that is pro PSU. You're not wanted. What sad miserable people some of you must be to come here every single day to rant, criticize, and create fictions about things or people you know little about. Go get a life! And the naivete of some of you is without bounds. The PSU train is moving forward into a bright future at break neck.speed and you think by criticizing the engineer from afar he's about to slow it down? Not happening now or anytime in your lifetime because we control the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity.

You and your minions can take all the pot shots at me you want but I take comfort in the fact that I can sleep well at night because I'm on the winning team while you......well you don't even have a team.

"The PSU train is moving forward into a bright future at break neck.speed and you think by criticizing the engineer from afar he's about to slow it down? Not happening now or anytime in your lifetime because we control the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity."

People who would say things like this truly scare me, not because I'm intimidated, but because this is the kind of power drunken arrogance that can destroy a great institution like Penn State. Institutions of higher learning are supposed to be places where people question things.....that's how we find cures for life threatening illnesses and create opportunities for the future. Universities become great because of the people who question the status quo. The kind of person who would use the word "control" in such a way as to attempt to make clear that any kind of dissent to the status quo will be squashed are the kind of people who have created the greatest disasters in world history. I'll pray for you CR66.

 

[simons96]

"The PSU train is moving forward into a bright future at break neck.speed and you think by criticizing the engineer from afar he's about to slow it down? Not happening now or anytime in your lifetime because we control the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity."

People who would say things like this truly scare me, not because I'm intimidated, but because this is the kind of power drunken arrogance that can destroy a great institution like Penn State. Institutions of higher learning are supposed to be places where people question things.....that's how we find cures for life threatening illnesses and create opportunities for the future. Universities become great because of the people who question the status quo. The kind of person who would use the word "control" in such a way as to attempt to make clear that any kind of dissent to the status quo will be squashed are the kind of people who have created the greatest disasters in world history. I'll pray for you CR66.

well said my friend!!

 

[91Joe95]

Yeah, the reason you spend millions of dollars on a fact-finder is to distinguish between what is fact and what is supposition. Especially in this case people were making a lot of assumptions about what happened, and there was a need to determine whether those assumptions were at least reasonable given the evidence.

Freeh did just the opposite of a fact-finding report. He gave HIS assumptions NOT backed up by the evidence.

If he had been a real professional, he would have said, these are serious allegations that merit further investigations but the evidence falls short of proving any kind of conspiracy. He would have said the emails can be read in a way that supports people's suspicions or that they could be also read in a more innocuous context.

That would have been the brave and ethical thing to do. If he had done that, Freeh would have taken some criticism from the national media. He would have made Mark Emmert mad because Emmert had his own agenda.

Instead Freeh did the easy and unethical thing. He withheld the report from the press for the initial news cycle. Remember how Freeh's web site had "technical difficulties" for the first 10 hours, preventing the national press from seeing the actual report and forcing them to write stories based on the statements Freeh made at the press conference.

I don't believe that part came from the BOT. I can't see them coming up with that as a plan -- "so you didn't find any evidence, Louis, so just hide the report from the press and just speculate about conspiracy on national TV so Mark Emmert can kill hammer PSU." Some people believe that was the plan of the BOT cabal but I just have trouble believing that. It seems more likely it was just Freeh's ego, serving himself and also just plain sloppiness and love of the TV cameras.

Here's another reason I don't think the BOT planned it -- If you look at the guy's record, it's just the Peter Principle. Ever since he had jobs of major responsibility, he has botched one thing after another. He messes everything he touches -- and yet he's really good at blaming others so it never comes back at him. Well this time it finally did. Partly because people at PSU wouldn't let it rest.

Except there's those pesky details regarding the contract and emails from Frazier, and those are the ones we know about. Just because Freeh is a lying egomaniac does not preclude or excuse how the bot acted.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Given his physical deformities caused by his drugged up attack on that innocent Vermont tree, I think Bell-Ringer at Notre Dame in Paris might be a more suitable gig than a law firm

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Can somebody post the photo of quasimodo (aka Freeh after his car accident) where his eye looks like it is sunken into his face? He looks like Droopy the Dog in it. I can't find it anywhere.

Dwiz - just saw your post after I made a Quasimodo joke myself. Great minds think alike.

The pic you're thinking of was on some Syracuse guy's Twitter feed after the university feted One-eyed Lou. I haven't been able to find it.

 

[jerseylion109]

Seriously though why can't the alumni trustees raise a motion to have Louis come back and defend his product? Or is that already happening?

 

[StinkStankStunk]

Seriously though why can't the alumni trustees raise a motion to have Louis come back and defend his product? Or is that already happening?

They SHOULD.

Absolutely.

It SHOULD be brought up at every public meeting. The Scoundrels would never allow it (Freeh to be questioned) - of course - and I am not saying that the elected Trustees should make a giant production of it.......

But, at every public meeting a simple request that "The Board ask Mr Freeh to meet with them, publically - as he PROMISED to do when he cashed his $8,000,000 check - to discuss his findings"

It would take 20 seconds. It should be asked at every meeting. At least force the Scoundrels to publically refuse.

Why it isn't brought up? IDK

TTBOMK, there were one or two off-hand comments made in a meeting a year or two ago, along the lines of "Why hasn't he come back?"...something like that....but I do not think an actual request - so that the Scoundrels would have to go on record as refusing - has EVER actually publically been made (though, it is possible that such a request may have been made WAY back when....but I do not recall it)

 

[WeR0206]

They SHOULD.

Absolutely.

It SHOULD be brought up at every public meeting. The Scoundrels would never allow it (Freeh to be questioned) - of course - and I am not saying that the elected Trustees should make a giant production of it.......

But, at every public meeting a simple request that "The Board ask Mr Freeh to meet with them, publically - as he PROMISED to do when he cashed his $8,000,000 check - to discuss his findings"

It would take 20 seconds. It should be asked at every meeting. At least force the Scoundrels to publically refuse.

Why it isn't brought up? IDK

TTBOMK, there were one or two off-hand comments made in a meeting a year or two ago, along the lines of "Why hasn't he come back?"...something like that....but I do not think an actual request - so that the Scoundrels would have to go on record as refusing - has EVER actually publically been made (though, it is possible that such a request may have been made WAY back when....but I do not recall it)

Freeh will hide behind the "pending litigation" excuse to not speak publicly about his report.

Probably something he anticipated and knew he would never have to publicly defend it. He and Emmert turned down Bob Costas' invitation to talk about it with the Paterno experts. Big surprise!