Heard this from Bob Flounders on his podcast. He can be a grad transfer somewhere and play for 2 seasons. He said he didn't think there was much of a chance he'd go to Miss. State with JoeMo. But still .........
SIAP: Troubling News? Stevens will get his degree this spring?
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Well, his future at PSU is to back up TM next year and start for one year after that. I think he could kill it in this offense and adds a physicality to the QB role TM doesn't. Having said that, TM is THE MAN. Tough decision I'm sure, but I think we'll be fine either way. On the one hand, if he leaves that opens another scholarship, right? If he stays, we know we have really good QB play the next two years.
First, MS has a really good QB. Second, he doesn't graduate until May. So that would make it a challenge for him to graduate in May and start at a new school in June in time for an August. It is probably just as good to play the "slash" role at PSU in 2018 and start in 2019.
Since when is receiving a college degree "troubling news?" The again you listen to Fried Flounders, so that's probably the least of your worries.
MSU's QB had a serious ankle injury in the Egg Bowl. He may not be available for 2018.
Who says Stevens won't get beat out for the starting position 2 years from now?
Yes he will have his degreee. MSU has a great proven QB....one of the best in the SEC and nation so the situation there is no different than PSU. Stevens could very well leave and this happens all the time in college football. There is only ONE QB under center and only so many years to play. He may decide to stick it out as he loves the school and wants his shot while at PSU or he could find a situation he likes more and move on.
A few things...
Stevens was recruited into the program by Rahne before JoMo was hired.
JoMo has a senior QB coming back at Miss State that very much fits a mold of what he likes to do in Nick Fitzgerald. Tommy's situation is the same there as it would be at PSU.
I would see it as HIGHLY unlikely that Moorhead poaches players from PSU.
This isn't to say we're totally out of the woods with him looking at options because of his graduation, but just glancing at schools in his recruiting profile that he had interest in, there's not a lot to pick from in terms of schools looking for a QB and figuring to be ranked, let alone contending the next couple of years.
Another thing....can't overlook what is possibly waiting for Tommy as a senior at PSU. If next year may be a little bit of a step back (I don't think significant but certainly possible we go from Top 10 team to Top 20 type), 2019 is absolutely loaded with talent AND experience...
Bates - Senior
McGovern - Senior
Menet - Junior
Gonzo - Senior
Fries - Senior
Sanders - Senior
Robinson - Senior
Slade -Sophomore
Juwan Johnson - Senior (if he stays after next year)
Charles - Senior
Other WRs - Shorter, Hamler, Hippenhammer, George,
TEs - Holland, Kuntz, Freirmouth
The talent on this offense makes it national championship worthy and few teams in the country are going to be able to stack up with what Stevens would have to work with.
Stevens was recruited into the program by Rahne before JoMo was hired.
JoMo has a senior QB coming back at Miss State that very much fits a mold of what he likes to do in Nick Fitzgerald. Tommy's situation is the same there as it would be at PSU.
I would see it as HIGHLY unlikely that Moorhead poaches players from PSU.
This isn't to say we're totally out of the woods with him looking at options because of his graduation, but just glancing at schools in his recruiting profile that he had interest in, there's not a lot to pick from in terms of schools looking for a QB and figuring to be ranked, let alone contending the next couple of years.
Another thing....can't overlook what is possibly waiting for Tommy as a senior at PSU. If next year may be a little bit of a step back (I don't think significant but certainly possible we go from Top 10 team to Top 20 type), 2019 is absolutely loaded with talent AND experience...
Bates - Senior
McGovern - Senior
Menet - Junior
Gonzo - Senior
Fries - Senior
Sanders - Senior
Robinson - Senior
Slade -Sophomore
Juwan Johnson - Senior (if he stays after next year)
Charles - Senior
Other WRs - Shorter, Hamler, Hippenhammer, George,
TEs - Holland, Kuntz, Freirmouth
The talent on this offense makes it national championship worthy and few teams in the country are going to be able to stack up with what Stevens would have to work with.
Mississippi State quarterback Nick Fitzgerald underwent successful surgery on his ankle Friday morning.
Fitzgerald suffered a broken bone in his right ankle on the Bulldogs' second drive of the Egg Bowl on Thanksgiving night. He had to be carted off the field and returned to the sideline for the second half on crutches.
Fitzgerald will miss MSU's bowl game but it could be possible the junior from Richmond Hill, Georgia returns for spring practice.
The departure of Fitzgerald leaves the Bulldogs with true freshman Keytaon Thompson as the starting quarterback and walk-on redshirt freshman Logan Burnett as the back-up for the upcoming bowl game.
http://www.djournal.com/sports/fitz...cle_47059dc5-3159-5639-bc2b-2f9f3e6acc33.html
Hear that from Flounders, too? Prognosis is that Fitzgerald will likely be ready for Spring practice.
Again, why are we anointing him a starter in 2019? Clifford or a true freshman may beat him out. It's not 1997 at PSU anymore.
Anytime one of our players gets his degree early, it's good news not bad. He can now work on a masters. He's a good student and those are the kinds of people I want to play for Penn State. Congratulations to him.
Wondering, to get Stevens on the field more could he occasionally play tight end and might that be his NFL future position, like that guy with the Pats, don't want to try spelling his name.
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Thanks for the SIAP. It’s old news.
But I guess we’re still chatting about it because it’s a big stakes thing for big sides. So it’s fair enough...
I don’t know what I’d do if I were him. I hope he stays and I think it’s the more conservative move In his current situation, but playing time is definitely an issue (but see tOSU a few years ago with three who loved it there.). And who knows how things will work in a different place, system, team, coaches, etc. since he has a family at PSU, I’d bet he stays but I don’t have any good intel on that one.
Question about this kid Fitzgerald and I don't mean to be argumentative as I have never seen him play. But I have seen many glowing assessments of him and when I look at his stats, he has been a two year starter, completed around 56% of his passes each year and has a poor TD/Int ratio. So my question, why is he highly regarded? Based strictly on his stats I would think Moorhead will look to upgrade the position.
Are you talking about the MSU quarterback that just had his leg twisted around so he could kick his own butt? Or is their another blue chip on their roster?
If the former, hard to say he comes back. I guess it was a sort of dislocation injury but bound to be ligament damage. Feel sorry for that kid, he’ll be feeling that injury later in life
just checked their offense....very similar to PSU's under JoeMo. Fitgerald is a load at 6-5, 230. 162 carries for 984 yards. Not a great passing year this year with 15tds and 11 INTs but last year he threw for almost 1400 yards with 21 TDs and 10 INTs.
Tommy could be better but it wouldn't be a huge difference.
Tommy could be better but it wouldn't be a huge difference.
If you have seen him play you would get why he isn't going anywhere. He's big, strong, can run, and has a good arm. MSU isn't exactly loaded year in and year out with the pay for play schools in the rest of that division. Basically he is Tommy Stevens already with 2 years of legit PT.
Just checked the recruiting db, and noticed that Fitzgerald was a lowly 2 star, 5.4 rated QB out of high school with his only other offer coming from "Middle Tenn State." Funny how certain players develop and others regress. A comment by an OP stated that Fitzgerald was the best QB in the SEC. Good for him.
Again, what if Clifford is better than Stevens? Should he transfer as well?
Take this however you want but Stevens "liked" it. I'm assuming it's a joke that the phone owner is embarrassed of his man crush on TS but who knows?
In the Gunperhaps you might consider rephrasing that ...
some of those guys may not be here.
Bates is a senior in 2018 and will graduate - i can see him leaving his 5th year on the table if he is as good as many say.
Sanders may go after next year if he has a big year
Robinson may already be gone after this year
Slade is at risk now with the coaching change. there were people after him all along and was going to be challenging to keep him. we just added uncertainty with coaching changes and lead recruiter for him and his position coach.
Juwan might look at the draft this year as he is a JR now.
Charles - may wind up being gone over his issues
I have thought for some time that Tommy staying depended on Trace's decision to NFL. If Trace decided to stay in 2018 for his 5th year, then Tommy might decide to move on with grad transfer to a place where he can play for 2 years and get masters degree.
Seems like we are always looking for the sky to fall. Stevens has not given any indication of being unhappy. If he goes anywhere wouldn't he choose a spot were he is guaranteed to start? MSU does have a returning qb and having him supplanted by a PSU carpetbagger wouldn't win friends in the locker room for JoMo. Players are going to come and go....Either way we have one great qb at minimum, which is one more than most schools.
Everybody might go and nobody might come on board.... No Lions but Tigers and Bears .....
Oh My!
I get the feeling that some on this board have been dumped by girlfriends and wives A LOT.
Agree.... and I am absolutely certain the women made the best decisions of their lives in doing so!
Making a TE out of a kid who has pro QB aspirations is a great way to encourage him to be a graduate transfer.
