Smeals Executive MBA Rankings Relaesed

[Nitwit]

July 2, 2018

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — The Penn State Smeal Executive MBA Program ranks No. 26 overall and No. 7 among programs from public institutions in the Economist’s 2018 latest assessment of top global EMBAs, which was released July 2.

High scores in multiple sub-categories including quality of faculty (No. 4), ratio of full-time faculty to EMBA students (No. 6), and students rating of the ability to keep in contact with students/faculty when off campus (No. 6) contributed to Smeal’s overall ranking.

 

[drew16]

Can you provide a complete list?

Where does Columbia stand?

 

[BobPSU92]

I hate us.

 

[interrobang]

https://www.economist.com/whichmba/executive-mba-ranking/2018

 

[Nitwit]

So it looks like we are ranked 4th among the Big 10, behind Northwestern (no surprise there), Michigan, and Maryland.

 

[ChiTownLion]

Not bad, but we had so much positive, upward momentum leading up to the nuclear implosion in 2011. Makes you wonder where we'd rank across the board if not for Frank Fina's anal rape fable.

 

[Hugh Laurie]

In a related story..........

http://6abc.com/education/temple-business-school-dean-forced-out-over-falsified-data/3743421/

 

[phillybillyreprise]

Is this for the whole program or a specific program within the Smeal School?

“This is The Economist’s third ranking of executive MBA (EMBA) programmed. These pricey part-time courses for expierenced managers are more popular than ever.”

There are no Whartons, Harvards or Stanfords.

 

[Art]

Is this for the whole program or a specific program within the Smeal School?

“This is The Economist’s third ranking of executive MBA (EMBA) programmed. These pricey part-time courses for expierenced managers are more popular than ever.”

There are no Whartons, Harvards or Stanfords.

It's the Executive MBA program, a part-time curriculum for people who will continue to work while taking it. Those folks are usually sponsored by their companies, which also pick up the tab.

Harvard and Stanford do not have EMBAs, though they do have certificate programs in various business disciplines.

 

[BobPSU92]

250.

 

[Nitwit]

So I take it you ageee that Penn State was right to get out in front by developing a quality highly ranked executive MBA program to respond to the market for such education. And for that matter their World Campus initiative has been highly successful as well in that it is now their second largest college. Finally some veiled positive but well thought out conclusions.

 

[Art]

So I take it you ageee that Penn State was right to get out in front by developing a quality highly ranked executive MBA program to respond to the market for such education. And for that matter their World Campus initiative has been highly successful as well in that it is now their second largest college. Finally some veiled positive but well thought out conclusions.

I dunno about PSU getting out in front. EMBA programs have been around for a long time.

As far as PSU being "right" from an academic sense the answer is neutral. EMBA, for a variety of reasons, have far less cachet than traditional MBA's do. Nobody pays a whole heckuva lot of attention to them, other than, perhaps, PSU, which seems obsessed with ratings. From a financial sense, depends on whether PSU is making money from the program.

 

[Nitwit]

Employers pay a lot of attention to them. That’s why they often pay for them. I find that there are a lot of engineers or computer programmers and scientists who take these evening programs in order to get beyond their technical field and into management. It’s a win win win, for the school, the employee, and the company.

 

[Art]

Employers pay a lot of attention to them. That’s why they often pay for them. I find that there are a lot of engineers or computer programmers and scientists who take these evening programs in order to get beyond their technical field and into management. It’s a win win win, for the school, the employee, and the company.

"Evening programs?" Yeah, you're clueless.

 

[Nitwit]

You’re both dead wrong again! That’s the attraction for many working executives. They can earn an EMBA by taking courses after work.

 

[Art]

You’re both dead wrong again! That’s the attraction for many working executives. They can earn an EMBA by taking courses after work.

Guess you're doubling down on clueless.

 

[WestSideLion]

You’re both dead wrong again! That’s the attraction for many working executives. They can earn an EMBA by taking courses after work.

No EMBA program I’ve seen is after work. They’re almost always alternating Fridays and Saturdays or every Saturday. That’s why company sponsorship is so key: you need permission to be out of the office on class days.

 

[Nitwit]

This was taken from Penn State’s website:

Program Format
Students attend in-person classes only one night per week from 6–9 p.m. and complete additional coursework online. Faculty travel between Penn State Abington, Penn State Great Valley, and other offsite locations to deliver courses face-to-face or via a state-of-the-art video conference.

Rather than semesters, courses are held over seven week terms and allow students to focus on one subject at a time. Students enrolled at Penn State Abington are considered part of Penn State Great Valley: they are eligible for scholarships and may take advantage of Great Valley’s resources, including the writing center and career management services.

Students can finish their MBA in under three years if enrolled part-time, but also have the option to take courses at the Great Valley campus to expedite completion.

Not sure why this is a big issue anyway, except that some of you can’t seem to give credit when Penn State does things right.

 

[Nitwit]

Tripling down on what? I just proved you wrong again.

Anyway the point of this message string was that Penn State’s Executive MBA Program is very highly ranked. Some folks here like to turn that into a negative. I wonder what their motive is?

 

[Art]

Tripling down on what? I just proved you wrong again.

Anyway the point of this message string was that Penn State’s Executive MBA Program is very highly ranked. Some folks here like to turn that into a negative. I wonder what their motive is?

Using ratings in promotional material for the program makes sense. Citing it in a general press release is a sign of some sort of inadequacy. EMBA programs aren't exactly centers of academic excellence.

 

[Art]

Certainly not Penn State’s........ and I certainly don’t know of any “Top 50” type programs that are (though, there as so many, there may be some “Mom and Pop” ones out there that call themselves “EMBA”).
In fact, Penn State’s takes their classroom show on the road (to the Philly area)..... likely due to the dearth of “executives” within easy transit of State College (which is also one of the challenges for the Bricks-and-Mortar program)

Well that must make Wharton, Booth (Chicago), Sloan (MIT), and Columbia "Mom & Pop" Programs. Don't know what PSU does, but WestSide's description generally fits the "top" EMBA programs. I'd also add that the best business school faculty tend not to teach in their EMBA programs. Lot of adjuncts, which can be good if the school is near a major business center. If not, not so much.

 

[PeetzPoolBoy]

LOL......

Now I see NitWit TRIPLING DOWN.


He’s a truly special one.

Now StorminNormin,

NitWit claims to be an ex-CEO. A CEO of “what” he’s never shared, but you should just learn to “trust him”

 

[Art]

I was referring to NitWit’s claims about “night school” EMBAs (I was confirming WestSide’s point)...... though I can see how that would have been cloudy as the thread progressed.

No problem.

It's nice to have quality programs, but this is akin to an MLB team bragging about how high it's third-string catcher is rated. At the end of the day, it's third-string catchers.

 

[BobPSU92]

I hate us.

 

[4rosco]

This was taken from Penn State’s website:

Program Format
Students attend in-person classes only one night per week from 6–9 p.m. and complete additional coursework online. Faculty travel between Penn State Abington, Penn State Great Valley, and other offsite locations to deliver courses face-to-face or via a state-of-the-art video conference.

Rather than semesters, courses are held over seven week terms and allow students to focus on one subject at a time. Students enrolled at Penn State Abington are considered part of Penn State Great Valley: they are eligible for scholarships and may take advantage of Great Valley’s resources, including the writing center and career management services.

Students can finish their MBA in under three years if enrolled part-time, but also have the option to take courses at the Great Valley campus to expedite completion.

Not sure why this is a big issue anyway, except that some of you can’t seem to give credit when Penn State does things right.

Below is from the PSU eMBA website

The Penn State Smeal EMBA experience begins in late August and spans 17 consecutive months with typical class weekends at the Chubb Hotel & Conference Center in Lafayette

https://emba.smeal.psu.edu