and one of the analysts said that even if PSU goes 11-1, they would be the first team out if IU beats OSU. I just can’t believe that.
So I briefly turned on the CBS Sports College Football Preview show tonight at 7:00, . . .
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Did not hear your reference, but to me what he is really saying is that no conference should have four representatives. (Any comments on the SEC? Did he say four from the SEC would be OK?)
To think the guy gets paid for that kind of drivel. There is absolutely no way that would ever happen.
If someone said that they should be fired since they don't know anything about football
So, an SEC guy said something stupid--shocking
Again, if he actually said that he needs to be fired
It is such an idiotic statement. So Indiana beats OSU and Penn State never played Indiana but they are going to randomly punish Penn State by dropping them from 6th to out of the playoff picture. Meanwhile letting two loss SEC teams with bad losses......looking at you Ole Miss and Tennessee be in the playoff. And other two loss SEC teams. This is just an insanely bad take that is dead wrong. Only an SEC homer could dream up that kind of crap.
It's not even that--it's that anyone is dumb enough to think a team is going to fall 8-9 spots by winning out
They aren't going to fall 8-9 spots by winning out. They wouldn't even fall 8-9 spots with another loss.
I think they could fall 5 or 6 spots with a loss and that could knock them out of the playoff. It all depends what other teams do down the stretch.
IMO the only way PSU is a lock with two losses is if we end up in the CCG and lose a close one.
A loss to Purdue, Minnesota, or Maryland would be very troublesome.
We aren't falling that far with another loss--I swear you all are so angry about Ohio State getting in over us you refuse to be realistic
We're about as safe as any team in the country--only Oregon is in better shape right now. Arguably Ohio State but only Oregon.
If we made the CCG we could lose by 50 and still have a home game but us making that is like a 2% chance
Losing to any of those teams isn't "troublesome" in this era--the Big Ten and SEC have a ton of room for error--especially Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia, etc. Don't let Georgia being out today confuse you--they're still in great shape.
If Penn State wins out, they’re in….period. If they lose one of the next 3, there’s a very good chance they’re out.
— SEC’ers are soiling themselves because 4-6 of their “good” teams will have 2 ( or 3) losses, and many will stay home in lieu of 1 loss teams . — the rationalizing has started.
Penn state just needs to stay focused and win. They’ll be seeded in the 5-8 range with home field
Shame on all of us for listening to these talking heads and assuming they know more than us….or the kid who mows our grass or the accountant down the street or your local parish priest. (My priest is a big sports fan, so I know he knows more.)
None of these people have any influence on the committee making the final decision. I’m sure the committee will weigh all the evidence and come up with a pretty fair bracket.
Still a lot of football left to play. It PSU loses another game on its remaining schedule, it has no right to bitch about what happens.
None of these people have any influence on the committee making the final decision. I’m sure the committee will weigh all the evidence and come up with a pretty fair bracket.
Still a lot of football left to play. It PSU loses another game on its remaining schedule, it has no right to bitch about what happens.
Yup, the SEC propaganda machine has begun revving up and their Target Number One is...<surprise, surprise>...Penn State.
This is why I said in a thread a week ago that with our history, they might find a way to screw us even at 11-1. After Tuesday evening's CFP rankings, it's hard even for my paranoid brain to imagine that particular scenario but if we get a 2nd loss, all bets are off.
Meanwhile, Ohio State would do us a big favor by beating Indiana...the larger the margin, the better.
Agree with you. The "bubble teams" will almost certainly be all the 2-loss teams from either the SEC or B1G.... and there will almost certainly be more 2-loss SEC and B1G teams than there are remaining open at-large spots.
As much as Michigan has dominated them it won't happen this year--Harbaugh is gone and Moore is garbage plus their QBs make DJU and Garrett Greene look solid
Indiana's SOS makes them a bubble team with a loss--people complain about our SOS but Indiana is on par with AAC or Sun Belt schedules
If Ohio State were to lose to both Indiana and Michigan, they probably wouldn't make the playoff cut.
But no way in hell are they losing to Michigan this year.
Meanwhile, if their two losses were to Indiana and Oregon, they'd still get a playoff bid...and likely be seeded ahead of us, even assuming we're 11-1.
Ohio State beating Indiana, on the other hand, would simplify a lot of things. The Bucks are an early 10-point favorite.
Hard to go from #4 to out if we don’t lose a game the rest of the way. Wishful thinking on the part of the SEC.
Totally agree, Jerry. Next Saturday, I will be rooting for Ohio State to kick Indiana's butt by a lopsided score. That game kicks off at noon at the Shoe. (Penn State at Minnesota starts at 3:30). I've never rooted for Ohio State in my entire life. Cheering for Ohio State pains me so much. Just thinking about it makes me ill. An 11-1 Penn State team makes it into the playoffs before an 11-1 Indiana team because of Penn State's pedigree and revenue-drawing power. I'm not sure an 11-1 Penn State team gets into the playoffs ahead of a 10-2 Ohio State team that defeated us during the regular season and whose only 2 losses would be against the undefeated Oregon and Indiana teams playing in the Big Ten Championship game. Ohio State has an incentive to win as a victory would lead to a rematch with Oregon in the Big Ten Championship game.
I read an article - I believe it was CBS a week or so back - that said just that. People need to quit looking at just the record and start factoring in the SOS which the 12-team Playoff committee will focus heavily on. - they've already said that Again, an OSU victory over Indiana would really help PSU. You can bet that the SEC will emphasize the SOS
I understand your concerns, Bill, and believe me, rooting for Ohio State doesn't come easily for me either...no more than rooting for Michigan did when they played Indiana. Talk about cognitive dissonance!
However, if Indiana does beat the Buckeyes, I do think we're still in at 11-1 as the fourth (and lowest seeded) Big-10 team. But even in that scenario, stand by for the SEC propaganda machine to mount a full-scale effort to screw us over.
Come on guys, Penn state is 100% lock if they are 11-1 no matter what happens. They will host a home game at 11-1 and it’s not even close
This is why there should be no committee. People are political. Judgment is inherently flawed.
The selections and seeding should be based on the Massey composite computer rankings.
Take out the politics and biases. The first team left out is always going to have a complaint. With this many teams that exclusion will always come with logical arguments going both ways.
This process is supposed to identify a national champion, not a team that has the potential to beat other teams but that did not do so on the field.
After the 1987 win over Miami PSU was voted NC. Handicap that same game for a rematch and Miami would be a huge favorite. That is why a computer should apply for the twelve spots. 12 vs 13 is not supposed to be about potential, fan base, TV ratings, etc. A predetermined algorithm is the only fair way to do it.
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