which won't be youI guess they just see the final score. In my view, we were clearly the better team with Clifford at QB. The defense didn't look elite at all. They will probably go 12-0 then get smoked by whoever wins the Big Ten East.
which won't be youI guess they just see the final score. In my view, we were clearly the better team with Clifford at QB. The defense didn't look elite at all. They will probably go 12-0 then get smoked by whoever wins the Big Ten East.
Isn’t that what they should base the votes on? Am I missing something? These aren’t power rankings. Wins and losses have to count for almost everything.I guess they just see the final score. In my view, we were clearly the better team with Clifford at QB. The defense didn't look elite at all. They will probably go 12-0 then get smoked by whoever wins the Big Ten East.
Imagine voluntarily spending any significant time in Iowa....hard pass!
This paper tiger knocked your QB out of the game with a clean hit -that 's what happens when you take on a 6'5" 243 Lb all american LB and loseI thought we were about to win by at least that much. Even with Roberson, I thought we were going to win by single digits. I thought we would eventually find a way to get another FG or a TD. It was frustrating. I don't think we have any chance against OSU, though. Iowa is a paper tiger
The answer was named Jack Campbell 6'5" 243 junior LB and will be 1st team B1G Ten if not all AmericanClifford was on pace to throw for about 500 yards. PSU wins by 21 if he stays in the game (and that assume Iowa makes some adjustments...if they had no answer for him....woof...big blowout)
Don’t worry, he ain’t too proud of it either.Giant asshole. I'm ashamed he's from SW PA.
Show me the all American team he made last year……or any yearThis paper tiger knocked your QB out of the game with a clean hit -that 's what happens when you take on a 6'5" 243 Lb all american LB and lose
Ketchup and Mustard shows up just in time for another injury timeout for Penn State.Show me the all American team he made last year……or any year
Hey, it’s a Clownsigh spotting!This guy lives in a gonja haze so you should expect these responses
Yes, in the Coaches Poll. That's why they call it the Coaches poll.....
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I believe if Clifford does not get hurt and plays the whole game that PSU would have won by 2 TD's. And with the hostile crowd impacting the game in Iowa's favor at that.
And on a neutral field I believe PSU is a 2-3 TD better team.
But we will see if a team in the weaker B10 West can beat them, or if we'll have to wait until the B10 championship game to see them get stomped.
If Iowa isn’t really that good, wouldn’t PSU losing to them knock them out of the top 10-15?If the voter didn't watch the game to see that Iowa isn't really that good and they just look at the fact that Iowa just beat #4 and their stats on defense (although inflated) are really good, why wouldn't you vote them #1?
If they would have lost straight up, that probably would have happened, but they lost with a backup QB.If Iowa isn’t really that good, wouldn’t PSU losing to them knock them out of the top 10-15?
That loss could be soon….they have a history of losing to teams they shouldn’t.Iowa at #2 is the best possible outcome for us. Keeps us in the top 10 for now. By the time Iowa loses, our loss to them will be forgotten. We control our own destiny from here
They do at this point. The problem with Iowa is that their best records have always been mirages - they crumble when facing an opponent of a similar record later in the year.Isn’t that what they should base the votes on? Am I missing something? These aren’t power rankings. Wins and losses have to count for almost everything.
Are you new to cfb?? Many of them delegate their voting to assistants. That is pretty common knowledgeYes, in the Coaches Poll. That's why they call it the Coaches poll.....
Right, that’s part of the team, correct? If Iowa loses their starting CB who leads the nation in INTs (which they did) and they lose, do they get to claim they should be ranked higher? Depth is a huge factor and has to be factored in. You don’t get to pick and choose.Iowa at #2 is the best possible outcome for us. Keeps us in the top 10 for now. By the time Iowa loses, our loss to them will be forgotten. We control our own destiny from here
Because even if they made adjustments, PSU went 37 minutes of play with 46 yards of offense. At the very least if we mustered a measly 100 more yards in those 37 minutes (they had 155 in one quarter mind you) that it would effect everything from time of possession to field position to likely more than the 3 points Roberson had (mind you Clifford had 17 in 17 minutes). To think they wouldn’t have won is highly unlikely I mean Iowa only won be 3 and had 23 points despite those offensive numbers for 2.5 quarters. How many do they score if we add another TD in the final 37 minutes, had the ball less, or weren’t in a position to pin us that much, also not take 8 penalties due to cadence issues…Why does everyone assume that Iowa wouldn't/couldn't make adjustments at halftime if Clifford wasn't hurt. They got 4 interceptions because their defense was in the right position and are fast. Our lack of any form of running attack is what cost us the game.
I’d argue they were better than the other top 5 team they beat just yesterday.Iowa the worst top 5 team in the history of college football?
The difference is we know that we were ranked too high. You really think those were two of the 4 best teams in the sport yesterday?I’d argue they were better than the other top 5 team they just beat.
Your argument would be weak as you were getting curb stomped til our QB went out.I’d argue they were better than the other top 5 team they just beat.
They don’t base ranking on woulda coulda shoulda’s. Just what was. This board is starting to sound a lot like the Husker board.Your argument would be weak as you were getting curb stomped til our QB went out.
Just ignore the reality of my comment. I’ll say it again, you were getting curb stomped until our starting QB went out. Hard stop.They don’t base ranking on woulda coulda shoulda’s. Just what was.
Maybe, but Phil Parker is a genius at making half time adjustments. Clifford would have been slowed down in the second half.
And you are ignoring the reality of reality in that it doesn’t matter who the QB was and rankings will reflect that.Just ignore the reality of my comment. I’ll say it again, you were getting curb stomped until our starting QB went out. Hard stop.
2004, as in ancient history.23-20
You lost him when you used the word “semblance”….he’s an Iowa fan, keep it simple.2004, as in ancient history.
Even in the woefully weak west you need to go all the way back to 2004 to find any semblance of relevance for Iowa
Which is the whole point. The rankings will belie the fact that this Iowa team is mediocre. Possibly the worst top 5 team in decades. Whether you will acknowledge it or not.And you are ignoring the reality of reality in that it doesn’t matter who the QB was and rankings will reflect that.
Jeff Brohm and Pat Fitzgerald usually own Kirk Ferentz, but probably not this year. If Iowa loses either of those Ferentz should retire mid-season.That loss could be soon….they have a history of losing to teams they shouldn’t.
I wouldn’t ever sell Fitz short for a one game situation especially against a team that has no offense.Jeff Brohm and Pat Fitzgerald usually own Kirk Ferentz, but probably not this year. If Iowa loses either of those Ferentz should retire mid-season.
And “has no offense “, is not an exaggeration.I wouldn’t ever sell Fitz short for a one game situation especially against a team that has no offense.
It’s a top 5 team that beat a top 5 Penn St team. It’s not even the worst top 5 team in the past 24 hours.Which is the whole point. The rankings will belie the fact that this Iowa team is mediocre. Possibly the worst top 5 team in decades. Whether you will acknowledge it or not.
Actually, we were up 14-3 when he took the hit and went up 17-3 on the next play.You were only up one score when your QB was no longer available. Clearly better huh?
We'll find out in a few weeks.which won't be you
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