Speaking of Duke....

[nittanyfan333]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-weeping-ucf-player-after-gut-wrenching-loss/

I’m sure the usual suspect will break in talking about the usual nonsense, but if this doesn’t give you a whole new level of respect for K, you’re heartless and the epitome of a “hater”.

 

[scueng77]

Class. Period.

 

[TheGLOV]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-weeping-ucf-player-after-gut-wrenching-loss/

I’m sure the usual suspect will break in talking about the usual nonsense, but if this doesn’t give you a whole new level of respect for K, you’re heartless and the epitome of a “hater”.

Hey Jackass!

You deny all and pontificate the worst.

Suck it pal!

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/ma...brain_ftw&utm_medium=recirc&utm_campaign=rail

 

[Lion8286]

Blue White game can't get here fast enough.

 

[scueng77]

Hey Jackass!

You deny all and pontificate the worst.

Suck it pal!

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/03/ma...brain_ftw&utm_medium=recirc&utm_campaign=rail

And just how does that have a freaking thing to do with his post??????

Smh.

 

[scueng77]

Blue White game can't get here fast enough.

And I agree with you.

Can’t believe I said that.

 

[060802]

Grayson Allen. Enough said.

 

[TheGLOV]

Grayson Allen. Enough said.

Gerald Henderson. Enough said II.

 

[Sviatoslav]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-weeping-ucf-player-after-gut-wrenching-loss/

I’m sure the usual suspect will break in talking about the usual nonsense, but if this doesn’t give you a whole new level of respect for K, you’re heartless and the epitome of a “hater”.

I caught that on TV after the game, the exchange between coach K and the broken hearted UCF players. Genuine. I'm no Duke fan but that was deserving of respect and I was touched seeing it. They played their hearts out and that last shot was so close to sending Duke home (and destroying many a bracket). Respect.

 

[nittany119]

Let’s keep in mind Coach K was one of the few that publicly defended Joe when the fire and pitchfork crowd was tearing Joe down. He didn’t have to and we should keep it in mind.

 

[TheGLOV]

And just how does that have a freaking thing to do with his post??????

Smh.

Truth.

 

[Pennoyer]

I have always felt the hatred of Duke and Coach K by many parallels the feelings toward PSU and Coach Paterno (particularly prior to 2011). Candidly it is nothing but unfettered jealousy over the ability to succeed by doing it the “right” way.

As they did with PSU, detractors of Duke point to a player or a single negative event with the “see what I told you” attitude. It makes no sense. No one said PSU or Duke were perfect. But they do it right and they do it better than most. So as a result, people want to take shots because, frankly, they can’t beat them on the field.

It is sad, really. And wholly indicative of low self-esteem with respect to your own program.

 

[AWS1022]

I have always felt the hatred of Duke and Coach K by many parallels the feelings toward PSU and Coach Paterno (particularly prior to 2011). Candidly it is nothing but unfettered jealousy over the ability to succeed by doing it the “right” way.

As they did with PSU, detractors of Duke point to a player or a single negative event with the “see what I told you” attitude. It makes no sense. No one said PSU or Duke were perfect. But they do it right and they do it better than most. So as a result, people want to take shots because, frankly, they can’t beat them on the field.

It is sad, really. And wholly indicative of low self-esteem with respect to your own program.

I’ve always felt this way...Coach K is as close to Joe Paterno as there is, so I don’t hate him. I respect what he’s done and enjoy his success. Players come and go, but Coach K is the constant at Duke, so it’s hard for me to hate the program.

 

[artsandletters]

I have always felt the hatred of Duke and Coach K by many parallels the feelings toward PSU and Coach Paterno (particularly prior to 2011). Candidly it is nothing but unfettered jealousy over the ability to succeed by doing it the “right” way.

As they did with PSU, detractors of Duke point to a player or a single negative event with the “see what I told you” attitude. It makes no sense. No one said PSU or Duke were perfect. But they do it right and they do it better than most. So as a result, people want to take shots because, frankly, they can’t beat them on the field.

It is sad, really. And wholly indicative of low self-esteem with respect to your own program.

Duke has become a one year home and showcase for basketball players, not students. K doesn’t have to be like Calipari, he chooses to.

 

[RTRMR]

If K was like JVP(which he ain’t), he’d demand his yearly bevy of “one and doners” go to class(which they ain’t)!

 

[Get Nasty]

If K was like JVP(which he ain’t), he’d demand his yearly bevy of “one and doners” go to class(which they ain’t)!

LIE LIE LIE.

Duke one and done players go to class and must maintain a solid standing and GPA. That is the difference between Duke and others. Ben Simmons never went to class, Kentucky players only go to class the first semester. Don't make up BS to fit your narrative.

 

[Get Nasty]

Duke has become a one year home and showcase for basketball players, not students. K doesn’t have to be like Calipari, he chooses to.

He's taken a calipari approach and modified it to fit the Duke quality student athlete. The differences high level i spell out above. K is not calipari. I honestly think Calipari is doing a better job developing players in recent years, but K does a better job of getting the best talent in the world to play together ego free.

 

[RTRMR]

LIE LIE LIE.

Duke one and done players go to class and must maintain a solid standing and GPA. That is the difference between Duke and others. Ben Simmons never went to class, Kentucky players only go to class the first semester. Don't make up BS to fit your narrative.

You think the almighty savior himself, Zion, is going to class?

 

[Zenophile]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-weeping-ucf-player-after-gut-wrenching-loss/

I’m sure the usual suspect will break in talking about the usual nonsense, but if this doesn’t give you a whole new level of respect for K, you’re heartless and the epitome of a “hater”.

Class. Period.

Amen.

 

[TheGLOV]

I have always felt the hatred of Duke and Coach K by many parallels the feelings toward PSU and Coach Paterno (particularly prior to 2011). Candidly it is nothing but unfettered jealousy over the ability to succeed by doing it the “right” way.

As they did with PSU, detractors of Duke point to a player or a single negative event with the “see what I told you” attitude. It makes no sense. No one said PSU or Duke were perfect. But they do it right and they do it better than most. So as a result, people want to take shots because, frankly, they can’t beat them on the field.

It is sad, really. And wholly indicative of low self-esteem with respect to your own program.

Oh respectfully disagree on a few points but well spoken.

 

[pandaczar12]

Just wait until coach K retires and doesn't give the media any more stories, so they find a reason to tear him down.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Class. Period.

Please keep in mind that UCF's coach is a former Dook player and assistant. If this was some random team or someone from the UNC coaching tree, I guarantee that he wouldn't have been as gracious.

The only nice thing I will ever say about Coach K is that he had the proper response to Paterno's firing. Kudos to him for that. Otherwise, eff that guy.

"It was horrible, and I've respected coach Paterno my entire life and had a chance to get to know him really well in the last year of his life. I thought it was really not well done in handling the situation that—it's a difficult situation to encounter.

You had somebody who's given six decades of service to the university and done such an incredible job. Somehow, you have to let—something has to play out and respect the fact that you've gone through all these experiences for six decades. It doesn't just go out the window right at the end. I thought it was a real mistake by Penn State's leadership."

 

[PSU2UNC]

I have always felt the hatred of Duke and Coach K by many parallels the feelings toward PSU and Coach Paterno (particularly prior to 2011). Candidly it is nothing but unfettered jealousy over the ability to succeed by doing it the “right” way.

As they did with PSU, detractors of Duke point to a player or a single negative event with the “see what I told you” attitude. It makes no sense. No one said PSU or Duke were perfect. But they do it right and they do it better than most. So as a result, people want to take shots because, frankly, they can’t beat them on the field.

It is sad, really. And wholly indicative of low self-esteem with respect to your own program.

I strongly disagree with this take. Dean Smith (and to a lesser extent Roy Williams) are far closer analogues to Paterno that K is.

 

[BobPSU92]

I strongly disagree with this take. Dean Smith (and to a lesser extent Roy Williams) are far closer analogues to Paterno that K is.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would like your take on why (with respect to Smith, Williams, and Coach K).

 

[nittanyfan333]

You think the almighty savior himself, Zion, is going to class?

If you're insinuating that Zion isn't going to class, I'd like you to provide the proof that he doesn't. If you're going to run your mouth, back it up. otherwise you are fitting the description that Pennoyer was talking about above.

Please keep in mind that UCF's coach is a former Dook player and assistant. If this was some random team or someone from the UNC coaching tree, I guarantee that he wouldn't have been as gracious.

The only nice thing I will ever say about Coach K is that he had the proper response to Paterno's firing. Kudos to him for that. Otherwise, eff that guy.

"It was horrible, and I've respected coach Paterno my entire life and had a chance to get to know him really well in the last year of his life. I thought it was really not well done in handling the situation that—it's a difficult situation to encounter.

You had somebody who's given six decades of service to the university and done such an incredible job. Somehow, you have to let—something has to play out and respect the fact that you've gone through all these experiences for six decades. It doesn't just go out the window right at the end. I thought it was a real mistake by Penn State's leadership."

ugh.... guarantee huh? 100% without a shadow of a doubt huh?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would like your take on why (with respect to Smith, Williams, and Coach K).

this is exactly what I was talking about in my first post (not your post, PSU2UNC's post). These people's unfettered hatred blinds them to an instance of pure sportsmanship. What K did was EXACTLY what sports in general is supposed to be about, and these idiots simply can't enjoy it for what it is. there always has to be an asterisk.

Grayson Allen. Enough said.

Chris Bell. Enough Said

I guess that means that JVP was a terrible person right? If you haven't realized that in life, the knife cuts both ways, you're either VERY young, or you're simply stupid. not in the sense of "oh you're stupid" like buddies giving each other a hard time. no, I mean you're literally unintelligent.

 

[PSU2UNC]

He's taken a calipari approach and modified it to fit the Duke quality student athlete. The differences high level i spell out above. K is not calipari. I honestly think Calipari is doing a better job developing players in recent years, but K does a better job of getting the best talent in the world to play together ego free.

If you are one and done, you are not a student athlete.

 

[royboy]

Please keep in mind that UCF's coach is a former Dook player and assistant. If this was some random team or someone from the UNC coaching tree, I guarantee that he wouldn't have been as gracious.

The only nice thing I will ever say about Coach K is that he had the proper response to Paterno's firing. Kudos to him for that. Otherwise, eff that guy.

Is it possible you are a rabid UNC partisan and just hate Duke? And that makes you a little less than credible?

Just a wild guess, based on:

• your screen name
• your juvenile mis-spelling of Duke

 

[Get Nasty]

You think the almighty savior himself, Zion, is going to class?

Monday - Tuesday or Wednesdy of this week yes he is. It's the same schedule as every other duke basketball player walk on, scholarship, or one and done is going through during March.

They have school provided tutors for almost the entire month of march.

Keep making stuff up.

 

[Get Nasty]

If you are one and done, you are not a student athlete.

An athlete that is taking classes isn't a student athlete? What is your definition of student athlete, because clearly yours is incorrect.

I don't like the one and done rule, but there isn't any other choice right now.

 

[Get Nasty]

If you're insinuating that Zion isn't going to class, I'd like you to provide the proof that he doesn't. If you're going to run your mouth, back it up. otherwise you are fitting the description that Pennoyer was talking about above.



ugh.... guarantee huh? 100% without a shadow of a doubt huh?



this is exactly what I was talking about in my first post (not your post, PSU2UNC's post). These people's unfettered hatred blinds them to an instance of pure sportsmanship. What K did was EXACTLY what sports in general is supposed to be about, and these idiots simply can't enjoy it for what it is. there always has to be an asterisk.



Chris Bell. Enough Said

I guess that means that JVP was a terrible person right? If you haven't realized that in life, the knife cuts both ways, you're either VERY young, or you're simply stupid. not in the sense of "oh you're stupid" like buddies giving each other a hard time. no, I mean you're literally unintelligent.

Great Post. Criticizing K and the program he runs makes anyone look foolish. Doesn't mean you have to like him, but the man runs about as good a program as you possibly can.

He's old and the end of his run is coming. I don't see the player development you used to under K, but he still can get the best talent to buy in and play ego free. Not an easy task.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Is it possible you are a rabid UNC partisan and just hate Duke? And that makes you a little less than credible?

Just a wild guess, based on:

• your screen name
• your juvenile mis-spelling of Duke

It's amazing how jealous UNC fans are of Coach K.

LdN

 

[LioninNC]

You think the almighty savior himself, Zion, is going to class?

We can all pontificate all we want, but the majority of us went to Penn State in order to be able to get a good job and make more money than we would have with just a high school diploma. Zion is a guaranteed NBA lottery pick who will make more money next year than most of us will make in our lifetimes. If after the fall term of my senior year at Penn State, if someone told me that I was guaranteed a job making multiple millions a year regardless of whether I kept up my GPA and graduated, I would never have attended another class.

 

[Get Nasty]

It's am

We can all pontificate all we want, but the majority of us went to Penn State in order to be able to get a good job and make more money than we would have with just a high school diploma. Zion is a guaranteed NBA lottery pick who will make more money next year than most of us will make in our lifetimes. If after the fall term of my senior year at Penn State, if someone told me that I was guaranteed a job making multiple millions a year regardless of whether I kept up my GPA and graduated, I would never have attended another class.

Yep, and Duke/K policy is you attend class, stay in good academic standings, and finish out your spring semester before going to the NBA. K can't force kids to stay in school for another month or so once bball is over but it has worked so far.

 

[BobPSU92]

We can all pontificate all we want, but the majority of us went to Penn State in order to be able to get a good job and make more money than we would have with just a high school diploma. Zion is a guaranteed NBA lottery pick who will make more money next year than most of us will make in our lifetimes. If after the fall term of my senior year at Penn State, if someone told me that I was guaranteed a job making multiple millions a year regardless of whether I kept up my GPA and graduated, I would never have attended another class.

The issue many people have is with the schools that participate in the one-and-done game, especially with otherwise strong academic schools like Duke. Since universities are supposed to exist for academics first, it is unbecoming to put athletics over academics (as Penn Staters, we know this better than most, even though it was a false narrative in our case). A form of this is the one-and-done. Many, of course, also find fault with the ncaa for supporting such actvity.

I don’t see how anyone could have an issue with the athletes who take advantage of the one-and-done opportunity, especially when going to the NBA straight out of high school is not an option. The only issue I would have would be with an obvious one-and-done athlete pretending that academics are a priority, but I don’t see that often. It seems that many of these kids are obvious about their sport being number one or are at least mum on the subject until they leave college.

 

[AWS1022]

Duke has become a one year home and showcase for basketball players, not students. K doesn’t have to be like Calipari, he chooses to.

People hated Coach K long before the one and done rule...that’s just the latest reason to hate someone who’s successful.

 

[LionJim]

People hated Coach K long before the one and done rule...that’s just the latest reason to hate someone who’s successful.

I don't dislike K because he's successful, I dislike him because I dislike Duke basketball, partly because of that all-time douche Christian Laettner. I was rooting hard for UCF on Sunday, but can appreciate the talent of Z and Barnett, and can appreciate the sportsmanship K showed, as described in this thread. In the same vein, I have loathed UNC from way before the fake-class scandal, but think that Coby White is a great, great player, an All-NBA type talent.

Top-flight college basketball is out-and-out corrupt, let's face it. To enjoy it, I have to hold my nose and overlook the hypocrisy. In doing so, my emotions aren't going to control how I think, which is the opposite of what the people criticizing K in this thread are doing, it seems to me. What K did was good sportsmanship, full stop. What else is there to discuss without bringing out the hypocrisy?

 

[TheGLOV]

I strongly disagree with this take. Dean Smith (and to a lesser extent Roy Williams) are far closer analogues to Paterno that K is.

Yep! What he said.

Check Coach Smith's bio on civil rights.

 

[TheGLOV]

People hated Coach K long before the one and done rule...that’s just the latest reason to hate someone who’s successful.

Not me.

I've hated him since he first came in the league and wanted to 'get' Dean Smith.

 

[PSU2UNC]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would like your take on why (with respect to Smith, Williams, and Coach K).

Coach Smith vs Coach K:
Coach Smith was not only an innovating coach, whose game schematics caused the rules of the game to be changed in a huge way (shot clock), but he was also a tremendous person.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ina-coach-dean-smith-was-champion-integration

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/dean-smith-fought-integration/story?id=28815822

Beyond the normal sort of charity work that any coach does, and his military service (which Smith also had), I'm not aware of any similar stores from coach K.

Coach Williams vs Coach K:
As others have pointed, Dook has completely embraced the one and done model in a way that UNC has not (yes, UNC has the occasional one and done player, but Dook stocks their roster with them). This is counter to how I believe college athletics should operate. If you don't want to be in college, don't go to college; until the NBA changes their rules, go play overseas.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Is it possible you are a rabid UNC partisan and just hate Duke? And that makes you a little less than credible?

Just a wild guess, based on:

• your screen name
• your juvenile mis-spelling of Duke

I am not a UNC "partisan"; I am a UNC alumnus, who also got into Dook. I do hate Dook (which any non-Dookie will tell you is the correct spelling), and hated it from the moment I visited their campus (aka "Rutgers South Campus").