Stadium observations, game thoughts and big picture comment (long)
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The really interesting thing is the refs began calling some holding calls on UM after they got the 2 TD lead. If I'm remembering correctly, there were none in the first half.
Superior recruiter to me implies talented depth at all positions. I have not seen that the last few years. Or maybe I'm looking at it wrong in that "superior" means "superior to Rutgers/Pitt/Iowa".
Guess it depends on what you consider "superior".
Guess it depends on what you consider "superior".
You won both the turnover battle and had fewer penalties and penalty yards. The football gods did everything in their power to help you.
You want him to research a box score for you to provide support for Your theory. Do your own research.
And take your political bullshit to its proper forum.
The football gods DID do everything in their power. It sure wasn't the football gods who sent that backup punter out there to kick off 35 yards out of bounds, giving Michigan a free 15 yard head start, down 17-16.
Superior recruiter needs to be taken in the context of a potential replacement for Franklin.
I'm pretty convinced that we couldn't get a much worse coach on X's and O's and on staff hiring.
I'm not so sure we'll get a better recruiter.
I've done the research. If he wants to know, he can look it up himself!
You were the one wanting the details. I don't think he gives a rats ass. Take your useless information and go spin your conspiracy.
Exactly. The play calling sucked. Michigan takes 5 minutes off the clock but the defense holds for a FG. First offensive play? Predictable off tackle run for 1 yard. Another predictable run and incompletion on 3rd and long. Michigan has another long drive and defense again holds for a FG. Next offensive series? SOS as the first possession.
So many of the little things too:
1st play of the game is a 2 yard completion for Michigan and Porter commits a stupid moronic late hit.
17-16 and for no reason at all, Franklin sticks 99 in to kick off out of bounds by 30 yards, giving them another free 15.
The 30 yard dropped catch by Singleton.
The stupid fade on 4th and 6. Punt the damn ball and make them go 95 yards.
The OTHER stupid fade on 1st and goal.
43. Folks I don't want to pick on a kid. But....he has no business on that field.
0. Ditto.
A bunch of other stuff too but it's so dumb depressing lol
Kyle Whittingham is my guy.
Tough as nails.
His teams aren't soft.
His players develop.
He wins. Especially at home where he's damn near unbeatable
Ugh, one of my pet peeves. Is there anyone on this board that would miss hitting a 33+ yard wide field from standing in the middle of it?
Crm, I will take my political bs to the proper forum, but be sure to tell everyone else to take their Psu bs to the proper forum!
Example- Ps admin. Bs, blaming our football ineptitude on university leadership, or our basketball programs failure on leadership. Or the way Joe was treated! That wasn't about football.......that was all politics.
Why is that funny? Whittingham would be a horrible choice for PSU head coach.
1) His W/L record is the same as Franklin's -- no upgrade there.
2) The only coaching experience he has outside of the state of Utah is in Idaho. No experience in the mid West, South or East (all PSU recruiting hotbeds).
3) He is Mormon.
I finally got around to watching the TV broadcast of the game. I wanted to see:
a) things I may have missed from the stands
b) how the game played out when you remove the emotion of "as it's happening"
Couple of additional observations:
1) PSU was very much in the game until halfway through the third quarter. It wasn't pretty, but PSU was driving to tie it at 24 when the OPI penalty stalled the drive. Without that penalty, PSU has first down inside the UM 25 with a fair amount of momentum. The penalty resulted in them having to go for it on 4th down and not getting it. The next UM offense play was the Corum TD.
2) I didn't love the 4th down playcall there, but Clifford made a really nice throw that PW probably should have caught (tough catch, but both hands on the ball).
3) So the two plays that turned the game were the OPI and the Corum run.
4) Speaking of the former, while the penalty was on a TE, that was Singleton's fault for running his route 1 yard past the LOS. I don't want to pick on him because I think he will be a great player, but he did not have a good day. In addition to that penalty, he mishandled two KO returns, dropped the nice long ball by Allar and failed to produce much on offense (the last part not entirely his fault; some of that is on OL). For those of you who always want the freshmen phenoms to play, this (lots of mistakes) is part of that equation.
5) Michigan's offensive backups did not enter the game until 2 minutes left to play despite being up by 3 scores much earlier than that. Classless by Harbaugh. Eff that guy.
Anyway, happy to put this game behind us and move on to a victory over Minnesota.
a) things I may have missed from the stands
b) how the game played out when you remove the emotion of "as it's happening"
Couple of additional observations:
1) PSU was very much in the game until halfway through the third quarter. It wasn't pretty, but PSU was driving to tie it at 24 when the OPI penalty stalled the drive. Without that penalty, PSU has first down inside the UM 25 with a fair amount of momentum. The penalty resulted in them having to go for it on 4th down and not getting it. The next UM offense play was the Corum TD.
2) I didn't love the 4th down playcall there, but Clifford made a really nice throw that PW probably should have caught (tough catch, but both hands on the ball).
3) So the two plays that turned the game were the OPI and the Corum run.
4) Speaking of the former, while the penalty was on a TE, that was Singleton's fault for running his route 1 yard past the LOS. I don't want to pick on him because I think he will be a great player, but he did not have a good day. In addition to that penalty, he mishandled two KO returns, dropped the nice long ball by Allar and failed to produce much on offense (the last part not entirely his fault; some of that is on OL). For those of you who always want the freshmen phenoms to play, this (lots of mistakes) is part of that equation.
5) Michigan's offensive backups did not enter the game until 2 minutes left to play despite being up by 3 scores much earlier than that. Classless by Harbaugh. Eff that guy.
Anyway, happy to put this game behind us and move on to a victory over Minnesota.
Yeah, you are right. Terrible coaches often make the short list for Coach of the Year
James Franklin Named To Dodd Trophy Midseason Watch List
Franklin was one of 20 college football coaches named to the award's midseason watch list.
onwardstate.com
Hahahhahaha.Yeah, you are right. Terrible coaches often make the short list for Coach of the Year
James Franklin Named To Dodd Trophy Midseason Watch List
Franklin was one of 20 college football coaches named to the award's midseason watch list.
Seriously.
Hahahahaa.
”Let’s see what the administrators and journalists think”
Yeah, you are right. This is a list of terrible coaches who have won this award:
Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award - Wikipedia
One thing is for sure.Yeah, you are right. This is a list of terrible coaches who have won this award:
Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Franklin won’t win it.
They put him on the preseason list for 5 straight years.
Given how it’s worked out, does that say more about Franklin, or more about the judgment of the list makers?
There are lots of coaches on the preseason list who don't win.
Franklin probably should have won in 2016 -- McCarthy won at Colorado for turning the program around, but they got crushed in their conference championship game, and crushed in their bowl game.
We seemed to just run out of gas after the missed 4th down. It's like the D said that is all we got because from that moment on we really were dominated and our heads were not in it.
I thought we would play much better offensively in the 2nd half and potentially win after we lingered around the first half.
I did not like the 4th down call. Seemed low percentage and required perfect execution. Would have liked to see a throw to the TE but maybe that was covered.
We have to bounce back and beat Minny. Hopefully the White Out reenergizes us and we can have a solid win that gets us back on track and builds confidence and momentum for OHowIHate.
Questions for you since you were at the game:
How loud was it compared to Beaver Stadium and in particular how loud was their student section compared to ours?
Did we seem affected at all by the crowd noise?
Any interactions with scUM fans? Were they cool, just neutral (not good or bad) or were they horse's rear ends? Maybe depends on whether they were older or younger.
At it's loudest it was sort of typical Beaver Stadium conference game third down loud. No where near approaching White Out loud. It was VERY quiet after the pick six and stayed quiet until the first long TD run. To their credit (I guess?) it is louder there now than it used to be. I think has more to do with the press box/luxury box renovations keeping more sound in. The bowl shape of the stadium just isn't conducive to getting that loud.
No. My guess is that Auburn was much louder and the Shoe definitely gets louder.
No bad interactions this trip. Has a nice conversation with an older (55+) fan who complimented PSU on the creamery and the butcher block. The only really bad interaction I had there (other than minor trash talk) was years ago when a frat guy on the front lawn of the house trying to use a hose to wet down any PSU fans walking by. But I think that's more of a function of drunk 20 years olds being drunk 20 year olds than anything else.
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That team was never "in" that game. Looking at the ease in which UM moved the ball on offense and the total control they exerted over the PSU offense, it was pretty clear early on what the outcome was going to be. The defense was able to prevent an early total collapse but at the end of the half they had already played the equivalent of an entire game. So while they kept it close, there was never really any doubt who controlled the game.
Dude it was 24-17 with 22 minutes left in the game and PSU had the ball on the Michigan 24 (sans penalty). They were VERY much in that game despite Michigan being able to run the ball easily.
The final score was a blow out.
We made a couple of nice plays. Kudos to Cliffy on that fake/long run and a nice long pass. And to the D for the tip drill score.
But beyond that, we were bullied pillar to post - thoroughly dominated and humiliated. Michigan never punted. Darn lucky the score was not something like 51-3.
On to Minnesota. We are going in the wrong direction.
Michigan is lucky PSU didn't score on their 2nd drive of the 2nd half. That would have tied it at 24 and made it very different ball game (see two can play the totally made up scenario game).
Upon re-watch, it was clear the game was much closer than the final score.
The team is moving in the correct direction. On to the next opponent. 1-0. Get the win. Full stop.
You are delusional.
They ran for over 400 yards. 400 yards.
That only happens when the other team is simply destroying you.
It was worse than the score.
Not one intelligent person thinks we weren't very, very fortunate to be where we were at halftime.
But anything to back your boy, Franklin.
Whittingham does very good for where he is, but it's baffling that somebody would act like he's an upgrade. He has precisely 2 seasons in which he lost 2 games or less (hint, one was a 3-2 covid year).
The PAC 12, definitely weaker than the Big 10, yes or no?
If he brings his record to PSU, yall would be ready to run him off too. If you want to say, bring in Saban. Bring in Urban. Bring in Dabo. Sure. That's the only 3 guys who have the current track record that would satisfy the "10-2 is the minimum" yet pout over losing to Michigan crowd.
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