I'll totally agree with your first sentence. I have been in cases where I have known folks that later were accused (and convicted). I had absolutely no idea. Most in that situation do not. And that important information has been lost in the shuffle.
Surprise: Paterno story comes from Inquirer....
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I'll totally agree with your first sentence. I have been in cases where I have known folks that later were accused (and convicted). I had absolutely no idea. Most in that situation do not. And that important information has been lost in the shuffle.
I haven't bought a newspaper in years. Pulling the plug on cable TV is next.
I understand, but no. No one ever said this would be easy or short. Now more than ever is the time to fight and find the truth. I believe it's coming sooner rather than later. I also believe this was a last ditch effort to save some people's livelihoods in a sinking ship. I'll say it pretty plain so pay attention. If you believe Joe actually knew, then you really never knew what Joe was all about or what he stood for.
I don't believe Joe knew--but I have been surprised before.
Yawn.
If you think it was attributable to PSU, then move out of Columbus.
Otherwise, grow up. It's not healthy for you or your family if you're this upset by the situation.
Or maybe it just is what it is at face value. That is a real possibility that you all are dismissing.
Im just not sure why there is this need to defend a dead man so vigoriously... to the point where people merely saying that maybe it did happen are then vilified. Instead of being angry at those people you should be pissed at those who let Sandusky be a serial rapist.
Sorry, but all this fighting for Joe Paterno does nothing but hurt Penn State.
I'm willing to bet Sandusky had more victims than that .
Why would they cover it up? What was to lose? What was to gain?
So you accept something at face value that paints Paterno as a monster only slightly less repulsive than Sandusky himself? Because that's what someone would have to be to do what the popular narrative has tried to convince us that Paterno did. For me, before I go there with anyone, let alone someone with a decades long public track record of being anything BUT a monster, I need to see evidence, evidence that if this were a court would meet the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. What we have seen is so far from meeting that standard that it's laughable. And in this latest case, we've seen NO evidence. Just a naked allegation. Yet for you, it's really as simple as "eh, Paterno could have done or maybe he didn't, one is as likely as the other." Only someone with a deep seeded hatred of Paterno or who spent no time looking at this case and simply reacted emotionally to what they read could come to that conclusion. Which are you?
Not one little fact , but there were multiple accusations in that testimony that went back to 1976.
I don't know what happened and who exactly knew what when but I don't accept that certain folk like the nefarious bot knew while others like Joe and the three accused knew nothing ,
I don't know what happened and who exactly knew what when but I don't accept that certain folk like the nefarious bot knew while others like Joe and the three accused knew nothing ,
Maybe because some of us hope that others would defend our honor when we're that "dead man" and our lifetime legacy is being slandered without a shred of evidence to support it. I fear that you're of the generation that can't be bothered to care about anything that isn't on your cell phone.
Yeah. And, this is in 76 when his kids were still quite small....and they played at the Sandusky's. Yeah. That's the ticket. Why do you insist on giving credence to things that do not come close to passing the smell test? It is fascinating.
I think we're getting our lines crossed here. I'm not suggesting every victim is lying about Jerry. I'm suggesting that Jerry operated alone with no help from Joe or PSU, i.e. that something terrible. And I will never accept some flimsy "allegation" as proof otherwise. Furthering a narrative that Joe (who actually tried to stop Jerry) or any other PSU official is responsible for Jerry's behavior without indisputable proof is irresponsible and puts children in danger.
In 1976, Sandusky was the LBs coach and had been with the program 7 years. A child comes up to coach Paterno and tells him that this coordinator molested him and Paterno decided to cover it up. This story only comes out 40 years later after the guy sues Penn State for $$$. You're telling me I have to accept this story at face value? Really?
You been around the last 4.5 years or so? Why would anyone anywhere cover this up?
Ever seen the lines when the powerball goes to 300 million? Thousands upon thousands line up for a one in gazillion chance. No, thirty isn't many
It's not 1976. It's 86,87,98,01. And who know what else all smacking together and making a pattern of behavior and doing nothing .
Believe it, don't believe it. But you have a locked up serial child molester who was associated with psu.
Sounds like something many of my exes would have said: "If you really loved me you would [insert something major she wants me to do] ..."
They are exes because they were dumb enough to play that card and I was smart enough to know the implications of the strategy.
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Is it safe to assume that the person(s) that slashed your tires left some explanation that their act was tied to your known association with PSU?
I'm not moving on until the truth comes out and Joe's reputation has been fully restored. Only then can the healing begin
I don't know if its been stated (because its so damn obvious) but as soon as I saw this story break I thought TWO things:
1) Bullshit.
2) Hmm. The TIMING of this story is curious. We had Barron wink-winking about this for months. And yet TODAY we get this leak? TODAY? The first BoT meeting after the alumni Trustees finally get access to the Freeh files and Lubrano has been hinting about finding the smoking gun for a week or so.
Curious timing. This certainly smells like desperate men heaving a last second hail mary pass in an attempt to control their false narrative one last time.
Now, I'm curious what's going to happen in today's BoT meeting.
Only one on the street who had it happen--and I had an NLC sticker and an alumni sticker on my car..... Usually when a random slashing happens there are multiple incidents on the same street (which we have seen before). My wife's car was left alone, but she doesn't have any PSU paraphernalia. Few vandals leave a calling card.
There were also incidents at work (a co-worker got verbally harassed).
It's actually a good and inexpensive place to live. There are just a few idiots here.... All of my friends are pretty cool about this (but most do believe the media narrative too).
I'm 60. I'm more than grown up. If an ad hominem attack is all you have, I am disappointed in your reasoning skills. And what true Penn Stater hasn't been emotionally upset by all of this....
I was emotionally upset in 2011, and soon thereafter realized that public perception didn't matter.
Instant karma? I wasn't involved in any of this, I am merely saying that maybe it is true. And you guys wonder why the outside world thinks you are delusional...
BTW, don't BS about what this is... you know this reaction is because of Paterno. Let's be honest.
