Surprise: Paterno story comes from Inquirer....
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You most certainly did. You simply do not understand the implications of what you wrote.
And why in the world would one of the top coaches in all of college football back in 1976 cover up something as serious as pedophilia for a LB's coach? This story doesn't even fit the media narrative of Joe Paterno covering up for his buddy and long time successful Defensive Coordinator. I guess Joe had his crystal ball working overtime in 1976.
I was talking with a friend at my stamp club on Monday who's wife went to Ohio U--and they talked about actually seeing Schmidt play for them, as they were in school at that time. He was at BGSU, but came down on weekends.
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Of course it could be true. It also could be true that this latest accuser is a lying opportunist. Oh, this is fun, the guy I confided in is dead, the Sandusky guy is in jail. Let's write a screenplay. I'll be the victim and the one who gets the money.
Once money got involved, especially with a claim from 40 years ago, I'm thinking, yeah right.
Always take into consideration that someone may be lying. When money is involved, a lot of money, multiply that by any number you choose.
What a sweet story. I saw Gibby Gilbert play on the PGA Tour but I chose not to bring it up in this particular thread. Teasing.
So do you think it is prudent to treat everyone who is willing to entertain the possibility that it is true like garbage?
I don't think anyone should be treated like garbage. I do think that people whose motives are, shall we say, questionable, and who are accepting this latest claim at face value should be treated as highly suspect.
PSU made payouts, but this story is about Joe. Even in '76 he had total control.
Well your motives have been on full display for quite some time. Frankly, anyone who accepts this latest allegation at face value is at best, intellectually weak, and at worst, a liar.
Yes, six years before he won his first NC he was already in charge of the whole state.
No. I do think that in this particular case, accusations by this 50something year old man should be heavily discounted -- like near zero.
Yeah, you did. Like I said, you simply don't understand the implications of what you wrote.
Not surprising and very disappointing. Those who wish to trash the Inky have their heads up their ass. Wake up!
Why? If it is plausible, then why should they just be discounted? We already know that child abuse victims many times take years/decades to come out about their abuse (if they do at all).
why would you say maybe its true when you know its not true
you know this was a concocted plan by Ira and his group to try and protect their butts
you know this yet you choose to ignore it
Money changes everything. Creates memories, even. Please, when money comes into play no one can be trusted. Just ask the BoT.
I sure hope this stuff cools down. Even if Joe was did what is claimed, all the good Joe did in his life surely offsets. I am still livid the way they have tarnished his name.
You so want the popular narrative about Paterno to be true that it trumps everything else. There can be no way that Paterno knowing about Sandusky's abuse in 1976 and doing nothing about it can be good for Penn State. It can only make people hate PSU even more. Yet here you are, championing this story that has not a scintilla of evidence to support it, giving some anonymous allegation put forward by an insurance company trying to get out of paying Penn State money. Why wouldn't you want the insurance company to have to pay this if you just want the best for Penn State? How can it be best for Penn State to have to pay $60 million instead of the insurance company paying it?
It's amazing how many people know so much about Paterno. From what little I know he was a pretty private person.
I spent four years at PSU and the only times I ever saw him was from a great distance during football games.
Yet so many here seem to know exactly how he thought and what he would or wouldn't do. According to those folks,
the villain has changed from Sandusky to the BOT and the victim from the abused to Paterno.
Quit frankly I believe most people's minds are made up, one way or the other regarding Joe and this latest buzz will not get legs and die on the vine very soon.
A situation can have multiple victims. Paterno has surely been scapegoated. Whether that makes him a victim, who knows.
That is very true. But lately I've seen nothing but vitriol directed at the abused by many on this board.
Well, I think you're engaging in hyperbole. As far as this latest claim, I have no problem saying this one stinks to high heavens. If the person truly was abused by Sandusky, then I feel genuine sorrow for him. But there are so many red flags as to his claim as to cast serious doubt as to its veracity. The fact that he throws a dead guy under the bus in an attempt to bolster his claim certainly doesn't do him any favors with many of us either.
If it is true then all the Joe did absolutely does NOT offset this. Dozens of kids were raped... if this could have been stopped in 1976 and wasn't, that's a tragedy.
What's best for Penn State is to MOVE ON and get back to focusing on being a University and not have it's members fighting over the murky legacy of a dead man that literally has no bearing for the future of PSU.
I notice that you continually refer to Paterno as "the dead man." You do that intentionally, obviously, as a way to goad people. You know he meant a great deal to a great many of us and yet you very casually and flippantly refer to him as "the dead man." That really says much more about you than anyone who may react to your childishness.
And the fact that you can't see that Paterno and PSU are inextricably linked and forever will be tells me that you are not a very deep thinker. You like to act like the brash millennial contrarian but I really think you're just a confused little boy who needed his mommy to wipe his nose far longer than she should have. I'm done with you.
I'm not doing it to goad people, I'm doing it to re-enforce the fact that Paterno isn't going to do anything for the University moving forward. He is dead... gone... not coming back. He is not going to help us in any way. So why are we obsessing over him? His legacy is the concern of his family and that it is. Penn State moves on.
