Matt Lehman. He had several yards running with the ball. That call was worse as he clearly crossed the line.
That was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
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We've answered this. After running gor 14+ yards going to the ground isn't part of completing the catch as he would have made a football move. I truly don't understand why this is so confusing for people. Argue the rule is dumb and I'll agree with you but right now it's about not understanding it
You cAn show this still and I don’t care. I hate the rule but James bobbled the ball. You can argue if he made a football move but you showing a picture of the ball crossing the line is completely missing what the call was about.
Again...answer the question...what if he had caught the ball on the ten and then this happened on the goal line?
lol--the replay clearly shows in the next frame that he drops the ball. He's still completing the catch as he goes to the ground. Just like players have to maintain control if they roll over on the ground in the end zone. Losing this game sucks but they got the call right. Argue the rule if you want. Arguing the call makes you look as though you don't know the rule
And what is the call had he caught it on the ten and ran it to the one and this happened?
Now I understand why many here think everyone is out to get us. They don't accept the rules as what they are
ok, so watch the replay again. James catches the ball, brings it to his waist then, realizing he may not cross the goal line, reaches out to cross the line.
I fail to see the difference. he clearly takes a step and changes the direction of the ball to reach it across the line. He clearly controls the ball and makes a "football move". that's a TD.
Was there any evidence, any, that the ball hit the ground? Think not!
Jesse James is just lucky to be playing football. He’s not going to get that call there.
Because part of "the act of the catch" there is going to the ground. Bringing it to your hip had never been a football move. He absolutely must maintain control as he goes to the ground. Do you not watch a lot of NFL football?
And must maintain control as he goes to the ground. Ask any NFL WR or TE. We see this call multiple times a year. He'll we probably see it weekly. Again. This was easy for replay. Please watch RedZone for a couple weekends. You'd have known it wasn't a catch
In the very next frame. His left hand is off the ball and the right had it pinned to the ground as the right hand is on top of it
What you and the officials failed to observe was the Jesse was already on the ground when he reached across the goal line ie...he maintained control to the ground.
nope...gotta control the ball first. Then, that rule takes place. as stated, had he caught it on the ten and ran it to the one, it would be a TD. He caught the ball..no question. he brings the ball to his waist...no question. He moves the ball from his waist to reach out over the goal line, and it goes over the goal line....no question. That is a TD.
lol. Is this real life right now?!?! I really don't believe that people who spend this much time of a message board that is primarily about football don't understand the rules.
he CAUGHT the ball. He also BRINGS IT TO HIS WAIST. He then changes the directory of the ball and reach to go over the goal line. Watch the replay....there is not question he catches and controls the ball. As stated, had he caught it on the ten yard line, it would be a TD. The question is when did he make the catch and control the catch? he clearly caught it, he clearly controlled it.
Wrong. Dead wrong. Serious question..,do you watch a lot of NFL football? I have to assume no if this call surprised you in any way
NY Post right now (and on Drudge)
Refs gift Patriots game with this mind-boggling Steelers non-catch
Refs gift Patriots game with this mind-boggling Steelers non-catch
Right. The refs are wrong. Even after replay. This is how they've called the game for years but I'm wrong. You're right. Damn conspiracies trying to ruin all the teams you root for
I think some of the confusion here is on the going to the ground part. Just his knee touching down does not count. His whole body has to come to a stop on the ground.
I know the rule but otherwise nobody in their right mind would watch that and say he didnt catch the ball.
I know the rule but otherwise nobody in their right mind would watch that and say he didnt catch the ball.
I was referring to you not bothering to argue with 78. Banging the 'it was a correct call by the rules' drum is part of the problem. If you want to watch a fair enjoyable football game you shouldn't accept calls like this.
If you can't see the ball hit the ground in this video, you are blind or dumb
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-medi...ogressive,q_80,w_636/sunlocminnba5xhquhwa.gif
Read Article 3; Item 1.....read.......understand. This isn't the first time that the officials blew a call and won't be the last. No biggie.
His knee AND his elbow are down and he has possession of the ball across the goal line. Even before that, he catches the ball, brings it in to his waist and then reaches to put the ball across the plane of the end zone. THat is a football move and two body parts on the ground with possession in the end zone. IN every other universe that is called a TD except, i guess, in the bizarro world of the NFL - No F*cking Logic
Horrific call.,
I understood your post. Some people postulate.....but due to the disciplines I practice in my job, I always refer to the text.
Disagree. He caught the ball pulled it in and had control. That's a catch. He then reached it across the goal line. That's a touchdown. Anything that happened afterwards is immaterial.
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