The Jerry Sandusky Case: What Really Happened in Penn State’s Locker Room?

[Bob78]

I doubt if you will find many here who value the opinions of Corbett, Fina, McGettigan, Beemer, Kelly and that whole Hee-Haw gang.........so you have a lot of company in that regard

Although Fina is on the record as saying he has examined all evidence and found no evidence of a cover-up or any impropriety by JVP. I won't mention his 'should have done more' follow-on, but that statement coming from the lead prosecutor in the case is significant.

Other than that, Fina is who he is. Enough said - it's Thanksgiving week and all.

 

[Legion of Lions]

Although Fina is on the record as saying he has examined all evidence and found no evidence of a cover-up or any impropriety by JVP. I won't mention his 'should have done more' follow-on, but that statement coming from the lead prosecutor in the case is significant.

Other than that, Fina is who he is. Enough said - it's Thanksgiving week and all.

BING....Smoking Gun Time - This statement is as good as DNA evidence and fingerprints on the murder weapon:

Fina, as Lead Prosecutor "...found no evidence of a cover-up..." and yet said Paterno .... '...should have done more...' . This statement is a professionally manufactured "emotion" phrase, originally delivered to justify "Paterno Guilt" by "Porndog" Noonan that had no LEGAL basis for being delivered. It was part of the larger "script" concocted to promote the public illusion created by the Harrisburg group led by Corbett - the $650,000 MAN!.

There is NO WAY kind of a statement would be made in the context in which it was made UNLESS the entire Sandusky-Penn State Scandal Story was an ENGINEERED illusion!!

This ALONE proves that justice within the State of PA was being manipulated by Fina and Corbett for their own purpose in a collusive, and therefore illegal way. Add to that to the FACT that the Grand Jury process was used illegally....and Corbett, Fina and Kelly should all be in JAIL today!

This entire CASE/TRIAL/PUBLIC EXECUTION is a TOTAL CRIMINAL ACT!!! Oh, and by the way, besides some of our own BOT, Mark Emmert and those NCAA executives who initiated/condoned the admitted illegal "NCAA sanctions" should all be in cells next to their collusive BOT/PA "buddies".

 

[getmyjive11]

Justice for Jerry!!!!!!!!!!

I honestly cannot believe that people are arguing that the most important thing is NOT the incarceration of one of, if not the most vile serial pedophile in the history of this country. It's loony tunes in here.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I honestly cannot believe that people are arguing that the most important thing is NOT the incarceration of one of, if not the most vile serial pedophile in the history of this country. It's loony tunes in here.

It'a not their kid and the Justice card justifies it for them. You know damn well this is about PSU and Joe to some of these guys. At this point you can laugh at it. Nothing in 4-5 years now has made me think, poor Jerry.

 

[elvis63]

You're right .

 

[getmyjive11]

It'a not their kid and the Justice card justifies it for them. You know damn well this is about PSU and Joe to some of these guys. At this point you can laugh at it. Nothing in 4-5 years now has made me think, poor Jerry.

Of course it is. They should at least be honest about it.

What amazes me is that they could still stand behind Paterno and condem Sandusky for the monster that he is, but they choose to go this route instead. Incredible.

 

[bjf1991]

I honestly cannot believe that people are arguing that the most important thing is NOT the incarceration of one of, if not the most vile serial pedophile in the history of this country. It's loony tunes in here.

So......stand up and put your name behind it.....you anonymous yapper

Just like our "friend" CR:
Anonymous turdbags like GMJ, if they had to stand behind their words.........
Would shrivel up like a dick in an ice bath.

But, behind his veil of "internet idiocy anonymity"........he spews his mix of vermin-after-birth and post-mortem-sh$tstain incessantly.
It takes a special kind of low-life coward to pull off that feat.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Good grief. Hero!!!

 

[bjf1991]

Good grief. Hero!!!

Sad.

You gonna' go down that road again?

When the guy to your left is GMJ.......and the guy to your right is Elvis......maybe you're going down a shitty path? Just trying to help

 

[getmyjive11]

So......stand up and put your name behind it.....you anonymous yapper

Just like our "friend" CR:
Anonymous turdbags like GMJ, if they had to stand behind their words.........
Would shrivel up like a dick in an ice bath.

But, behind his veil of "internet idiocy anonymity"........he spews his mix of vermin-after-birth and post-mortem-sh$tstain incessantly.
It takes a special kind of low-life coward to pull off that feat.

Do you really think I am going out on a limb with my statement?? What a clown you are. 99.9999% of the world is in my corner on this. I'm not the one talking crazy in here.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Sad

Says someone denying trees exist!

 

[bjf1991]

Do you really think I am going out on a limb with my statement?? What a clown you are. 99.9999% of the world is in my corner on this. I'm not the one talking crazy in here.

In addition to your "comment" being 100% off point:



If that is what you truly believe - and you want people to lay some weight on your postulations (why else would you make 7,000 idiotic posts on the subject?) - then why do you hide like a little boy behind his Momma's skirt? Especially when 99.9999% of the world is "in your corner"?




Be willing to stand up and put your name on it.........or STFU, Zipay

 

[LaJolla Lion]

In addition to your "comment" being 100% off point:



If that is what you truly believe - and you want people to lay some weight on your postulations (why else would you make 7,000 idiotic posts on the subject?) - then why do you hide like a little boy behind his Momma's skirt? Especially when 99.9999% of the world is "in your corner"?




Be willing to stand up and put your name on it.........or STFU, Zipay

So now he is CR66. Really? Run with that.

 

[bjf1991]

I compared him to CR.

Are you brain-dead?

 

[crm114psu]

So now he is CR66. Really? Run with that.

This tirade will make an excellent opening paragraph for his position statement when he runs for an A9 BOT slot next year:

So......stand up and put your name behind it.....you anonymous yapper

Just like our "friend" CR:
Anonymous turdbags like GMJ, if they had to stand behind their words.........
Would shrivel up like a dick in an ice bath.

But, behind his veil of "internet idiocy anonymity"........he spews his mix of vermin-after-birth and post-mortem-sh$tstain incessantly.
It takes a special kind of low-life coward to pull off that feat.

 

[artsandletters]

Of course it is. They should at least be honest about it.

What amazes me is that they could still stand behind Paterno and condem Sandusky for the monster that he is, but they choose to go this route instead. Incredible.

Did it ever occur to you that it's more about a fair trial than a certain verdict?

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I compared him to CR.

Are you brain-dead?

 

[getmyjive11]

Good grief. Hero!!!

In addition to your "comment" being 100% off point:



If that is what you truly believe - and you want people to lay some weight on your postulations (why else would you make 7,000 idiotic posts on the subject?) - then why do you hide like a little boy behind his Momma's skirt? Especially when 99.9999% of the world is "in your corner"?




Be willing to stand up and put your name on it.........or STFU, Zipay

Probably because I don't want weirdos like you harassing my family because you don't like what I said on a message board. Sorry, I don't want to subject them to the creeps.

 

[getmyjive11]

Did it ever occur to you that it's more about a fair trial than a certain verdict?

I understand what people are saying. I'm telling them that Sandusky had a fair trial and that he would be found guilty of the majority of the charges even with a retrial. So no, I think that the most important thing is that the scumbag is in jail for the rest of his life. It's a great victory for society.

 

[artsandletters]

I understand what people are saying. I'm telling them that Sandusky had a fair trial and that he would be found guilty of the majority of the charges even with a retrial. So no, I think that the most important thing is that the scumbag is in jail for the rest of his life. It's a great victory for society.

That is what you think. What you think does not count. Let the PCRA play out. You really have no need to comment further. All you do is repeat the same things you have said for years. If you were tried on a charge of incessant redundancies your sentence would be 30 years to life without posting.

 

[bjf1991]

Probably because I don't want weirdos like you harassing my family because you don't like what I said on a message board. Sorry, I don't want to subject them to the creeps.

If they are "family"......you already do.

 

[bjf1991]

I understand what people are saying. I'm telling them that Sandusky had a fair trial and that he would be found guilty of the majority of the charges even with a retrial. So no, I think that the most important thing is that the scumbag is in jail for the rest of his life. It's a great victory for society.

If what you say be true........then what is the "danger to society" of JS having a fair trial - - - - of requiring the Judicial/Prosecution entities to "play by the rules"?

Of course, that level of "deep logical thought" is well above your pay-grade.....so what's the point of even asking


You anonymous, cowardly POS.

 

[getmyjive11]

That is what you think. What you think does not count. Let the PCRA play out. You really have no need to comment further. All you do is repeat the same things you have said for years. If you were tried on a charge of incessant redundancies your sentence would be 30 years to life without posting.

And why do you think that your opinion is more valid to talk about?

 

[getmyjive11]

If what you say be true........then what is the "danger to society" of JS having a fair trial - - - - of requiring the Judicial/Prosecution entities to "play by the rules"?

Of course, that level of "deep logical thought" is well above your pay-grade.....so what's the point of even asking


You anonymous, cowardly POS.

The danger is forcing his victims to confront their abuser AGAIN. That is a traumatic event that does not need to occur.

 

[bjf1991]

The danger is forcing his victims to confront their abuser AGAIN. That is a traumatic event that does not need to occur.

Yeah......keep on yapping.....pretty soon you are going to convince EVERYONE of your deep righteous concern for "victims".

 

[getmyjive11]

Yeah......keep on yapping.....pretty soon you are going to convince EVERYONE of your deep righteous concern for "victims".

Yeah, God forbid that I am more concerned about them than Jerry.

 

[colt21]

I honestly cannot believe that people are arguing that the most important thing is NOT the incarceration of one of, if not the most vile serial pedophile in the history of this country. It's loony tunes in here.

I have worked for over 25 years in non-profits and in my most recent position with a Child Welfare Non-Profit. I absolutely want to see a serial pedophile incarcerated. However, to indicate that it is the only thing that matters no matter the means or consequences of those means is very short-sighted.

Do I want to see Joe exonerated - absolutely. But not out of some sort of idolatry -because he did what he was supposed to. And worse yet, because he should have NEVER been in this position in the first place.

Do I want to see a fair trial for JS - yes I do. But not because I want to see him go free - but rather because I am an American and would like to believe in a system of justice that is free of corruption. And finally, I say this because in this case we absolutely know this trial was tainted. Its not just an ideal, it's been clearly demonstrated to have been a sham.

Do I have a concern on how the bad people manipulated the JS situation and put it on Joe (et al) out of what I would call petty Jr High jealousies and revenge - YES. In that vein I sure would like a new (fair) trial to try and clear up some things.

But in NO WAY whatsoever do I want a pedophile to go free.

Can you see and understand the differences there?

 

[colt21]

It'a not their kid and the Justice card justifies it for them. You know damn well this is about PSU and Joe to some of these guys. At this point you can laugh at it. Nothing in 4-5 years now has made me think, poor Jerry.

I'll post the same response to you LaJolla and jive below......

I have worked for over 25 years in non-profits and in my most recent position with a Child Welfare Non-Profit. I absolutely want to see a serial pedophile incarcerated. However, to indicate that it is the only thing that matters no matter the means or consequences of those means is very short-sighted.

Do I want to see Joe exonerated - absolutely. But not out of some sort of idolatry -because he did what he was supposed to. And worse yet, because he should have NEVER been in this position in the first place.

Do I want to see a fair trial for JS - yes I do. But not because I want to see him go free - but rather because I am an American and would like to believe in a system of justice that is free of corruption. And finally, I say this because in this case we absolutely know this trial was tainted. Its not just an ideal, it's been clearly demonstrated to have been a sham.

Do I have a concern on how the bad people manipulated the JS situation and put it on Joe (et al) out of what I would call petty Jr High jealousies and revenge - YES. In that vein I sure would like a new (fair) trial to try and clear up some things.

But in NO WAY whatsoever do I want a pedophile to go free.

Can you see and understand the differences there?

 

[getmyjive11]

I have worked for over 25 years in non-profits and in my most recent position with a Child Welfare Non-Profit. I absolutely want to see a serial pedophile incarcerated. However, to indicate that it is the only thing that matters no matter the means or consequences of those means is very short-sighted.

Do I want to see Joe exonerated - absolutely. But not out of some sort of idolatry -because he did what he was supposed to. And worse yet, because he should have NEVER been in this position in the first place.

Do I want to see a fair trial for JS - yes I do. But not because I want to see him go free - but rather because I am an American and would like to believe in a system of justice that is free of corruption. And finally, I say this because in this case we absolutely know this trial was tainted. Its not just an ideal, it's been clearly demonstrated to have been a sham.

Do I have a concern on how the bad people manipulated the JS situation and put it on Joe (et al) out of what I would call petty Jr High jealousies and revenge - YES. In that vein I sure would like a new (fair) trial to try and clear up some things.

But in NO WAY whatsoever do I want a pedophile to go free.

Can you see and understand the differences there?

Absolutely. I don't think that Jerry got an unfair trial though and I know that a new one will result in him being in jail for the rest of his life. So what I see is a traumatic retrial for his victims, an unnecessary waste of time and money and PSU being thrust into the national spotlight again. All things considered, a new trial would be awful.

 

[bjf1991]

Absolutely. I don't think that Jerry got an unfair trial though and I know that a new one will result in him being in jail for the rest of his life. So what I see is a traumatic retrial for his victims, an unnecessary waste of time and money and PSU being thrust into the national spotlight again. All things considered, a new trial would be awful.

All things considered........you're an idiot, and a coward

 

[getmyjive11]

All things considered........you're an idiot, and a coward

And you are the guy supporting the pedophile. Congrats.

 

[artsandletters]

And why do you think that your opinion is more valid to talk about?

First, I've probably given it once or twice. Also, there are some eyebrow raising questions regarding the JS trial beginning with the way it was rushed to court. I won't go on.

I don't know why a new trial would cause any sweat off your brow. You're convinced he's guilty a thousand times. We heard you -- again and again ad infinitum.

 

[getmyjive11]

First, I've probably given it once or twice. Also, there are some eyebrow raising questions regarding the JS trial beginning with the way it was rushed to court. I won't go on.

I don't know why a new trial would cause any sweat off your brow. Your convinced he's guilty a thousand times. We heard you -- again and again ad infinitum.

I just gave three reasons why I think it is terrible. All valid.

 

[artsandletters]

I just gave three reasons why I think it is terrible. All valid.

I thought I had you on ignore but I guess not. It's time. Best wishes beating the drums you have on loop. I won't have to hear it.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Can we please MAKE THIS THREAD GO AWAY? For how many years has this board been dominated by discussion of the shit storm?

It's been a pretty good year for football! Let's put the focus back on that.

 

[indynittany]

And you are the guy supporting the pedophile. Congrats.

No. We're supporting the truth. Whatever that may be.

This whole thing got out of control because nobody, and I mean NOBODY, gave Jerry Sandusky the presumption of innocence he deserved.

- Joe and Spanier were fired because of that rush to judgment.

- Curley and Schultz had their lives ruined because of that rush to judgment.

- The BOT hired Freeh and colluded with the NCAA to bury the football program and destroy Joe's legacy because of that rush to judgment.

It should be clear to everybody by now (but it's not) that whatever Jerry did, Joe, Spanier, Curley and Schultz had nothing to do with enabling him. What they did do was to take reasonable steps to protect Jerry, TSM and PSU from the liability and bad publicity resulting from even a false accusation.

However, if Jerry is as guilty as some of you maintain, why aren't you up in arms because Jack Raykovitz wasn't charged? Why aren't you blaming the OAG for the corners it cut which has provided Jerry with a puncher's shot at receiving a new trial? Why aren't you faulting the child welfare agencies in PA that had oversight of TSM and paved the way for Jerry and Dottie to foster and adopt so many children?

 

[artsandletters]

Can we please MAKE THIS THREAD GO AWAY? For how many years has this board been dominated by discussion of the shit storm?

It's been a pretty good year for football! Let's put the focus back on that.

If this was about you, you wouldn't want it to go away. Ignore the thread.

 

[getmyjive11]

No. We're supporting the truth. Whatever that may be.

This whole thing got out of control because nobody, and I mean NOBODY, gave Jerry Sandusky the presumption of innocence he deserved.

- Joe and Spanier were fired because of that rush to judgment.

- Curley and Schultz had their lives ruined because of that rush to judgment.

- The BOT hired Freeh and colluded with the NCAA to bury the football program and destroy Joe's legacy because of that rush to judgment.

It should be clear to everybody by now (but it's not) that whatever Jerry did, Joe, Spanier, Curley and Schultz had nothing to do with enabling him. What they did do was to take reasonable steps to protect Jerry, TSM and PSU from the liability and bad publicity resulting from even a false accusation.

However, if Jerry is as guilty as some of you maintain, why aren't you up in arms because Jack Raykovitz wasn't charged? Why aren't you blaming the OAG for the corners it cut which has provided Jerry with a puncher's shot at receiving a new trial? Why aren't you faulting the child welfare agencies in PA that had oversight of TSM and paved the way for Jerry and Dottie to foster and adopt so many children?

The truth is that Jerry Sandusky is a serial pedophile. The quicker you can accept that, the quicker you can move on.

 

[artsandletters]

I'll post the same response to you LaJolla and jive below......

I have worked for over 25 years in non-profits and in my most recent position with a Child Welfare Non-Profit. I absolutely want to see a serial pedophile incarcerated. However, to indicate that it is the only thing that matters no matter the means or consequences of those means is very short-sighted.

Do I want to see Joe exonerated - absolutely. But not out of some sort of idolatry -because he did what he was supposed to. And worse yet, because he should have NEVER been in this position in the first place.

Do I want to see a fair trial for JS - yes I do. But not because I want to see him go free - but rather because I am an American and would like to believe in a system of justice that is free of corruption. And finally, I say this because in this case we absolutely know this trial was tainted. Its not just an ideal, it's been clearly demonstrated to have been a sham.

Do I have a concern on how the bad people manipulated the JS situation and put it on Joe (et al) out of what I would call petty Jr High jealousies and revenge - YES. In that vein I sure would like a new (fair) trial to try and clear up some things.

But in NO WAY whatsoever do I want a pedophile to go free.

Can you see and understand the differences there?

GetMYJive won't see the difference because he suffers from blockhead.

 

[indynittany]

The truth is that Jerry Sandusky is a serial pedophile. The quicker you can accept that, the quicker you can move on.

All I see is that you have no other purpose in life than to defend Tom Corbett.