exactly. color me suspicious of relentless internet trolls who seem desperate to seal a provably false narrative into history
The Jerry Sandusky Case: What Really Happened in Penn State’s Locker Room?
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exactly. color me suspicious of relentless internet trolls who seem desperate to seal a provably false narrative into history
You should care more about him and what he did. Dolt.
You and a few others aren't bright enough to understand even the simplest layers of this complex saga. Drop out of the discussion now. By continuing to post, all you accomplish is confirmation of your limited mental capacity.
I have never put anyone on ignore. It is tempting to ignore you, but for some reason I I find humor in your stupidity.
Trust me, I understand everything. I just don't know if it is sad or humorous that you all want a pedo to get a retrial in hopes that he will be found not guilty of the Vic 2 crimes. I just wish that you would be honest about your motives for it instead of putting up this front. Ultimately, it's all about Joe for you all. Sorry, it's not for me.
Like I said, you aren't bright enough to understand the layers. While I think there were many oddities to the first trial, I challenge you to find one post where I said I wanted a retrial. Just one. Don't come back until you find one. See you again never.
Trust you? FU.
If you don't want a retrial, what problem do you have with me saying that I don't want a retrial.
Jerry wouldn't be in jail if he didn't commit any crimes. It would be "great" if he never actually committed any crimes. You're saying you're happy he's in jail, which by extension must mean you're happy he committed crimes. In his situation, he sexually abused kids. Essentially you're saying you're happy he abused children. I don't see anything "great" about that.
You see, we can all pretend to be obtuse morons like you and purposefully misconstrue others' points, or we can admit we understand what people are actually saying, even if we don't agree.
I believe many/most have accepted and moved on from Jerry Sandusky and his jail sentence. Therefore, would you mind addressing the last paragraph of the post that you responded to, please?
Specifically, why is it okay that so many people have been unfairly implicated and desecrated upon, whereas others in the direct line of responsibility and care of victims have never even been investigated. Why is that sort of "justice" apparently acceptable to you?
These recent posts must be in response to Jive. Forget it. Ignore is the only solution.
I'm sorry. But I feel as if you are sidestepping the direct question.
If i may summarize what i think you stance is, you want people to simply move on and accept Jerry Sandusky's fate. Many/Most have. He is in jail. That may or may not be important. I'm not asking you to debate that point.
What many people are upset about are the injustices and abuses that have been inflicted upon dozens of innocent people without cause. Equally disconcerting is the injustice being carried out by the legal system not questioning and looking at how organizations such s TSM have escaped any and all scrutiny. Weren't they, after all, the organization that every victim came from. TSM surely knew about 1998.
So, to rephrase a question to you, why haven't you joined or otherwise recognized that the injustices and abuses that have occurred to innocent people are every bit as bad as anything Jerry Sandusky did? Why do you fight for justice in one set of crimes, but completely disregard other crimes? Isn't that contradictory and hypocritical?
First off, it is extremely important that Jerry is in jail.
To your question, we don't know outside of Sandusky who is liable and who is innocent. If CSS ever sees a courtroom, maybe we will get some answers. At this time, I am not optimistic of that happening.
Exactly. Therefore, many people simply want a comprehensive investigation to be accomplished.
Forgive me if i do not understand your position. But, I feel that you are still ignoring ignore answering direct questions. I will try three more questions in smaller doses so that i may understand your passion for justice.
Do you believe TSM ought to be investigated and held accountable for their role in the Jerry Sandusky situation?
Do you believe Police Officers who lied under oath at Sandusky's trial should be charged with perjury and held accountable?
Do you believe Louis Freeh should follow through on his promise to come to PSU and discuss his conclusions as he promised to do?
"What many people are upset about are the injustices and abuses that have been inflicted upon dozens of innocent people without cause." Who are these dozens of innocent people?
And what makes you think you are such an expert that you and the others of your ilk can recognize injustice that is unseen by the vast majority of people. You and the rest of your herd
are batcrap crazy. That is the bottom line to this entire thread
perhaps you and "the vast majority of people" fail to see the injustices because you LOOK THE OTHER WAY,
Everybody knew. If you went to PSU when JS was coach you probably knew too. You were part of the corrupt culture.
They do not relate to Sandusky's re-trial. But, like so many threads, the topics evolves and takes some twists and turns.
A while back in this thread you only addressed part of another posters questions. I asked if you would answer the remaining part of the post. Each time you responded, I feel as if you are sidestepping the direct questions. Why do you do that?
Help me understand, please.
I think it is well understood that a couple officers lied under oath. Why is that acceptable behavior and why aren't they held accountable?
I think it is well understood that TSM was never investigated. But, the common bond in the Sandusky situation was the endless supply of children coming through there. Why have they not been questioned and asked to explain how and why it happened?
Why was it acceptable for Louis Freeh to conduct a shoddy investigation with a pre-determined outcome, grandstand on national TV about his conclusions, allege facts that were never substantiated, and promise to come back to the University and it's stakeholders to discuss his work, but never show. Why is that acceptable for him to ruin many lives without being held accountable?
So, if you feel that people are looking the other way, I am sorry. Perhaps they are looking the other way trying to understand how and why there is any rational explanation why liars, Child Care professional and flippant investigators have not also been held accountable for their egregious and damaging actions.
Did TSM know about Jerry Sandusky in 1998 and did they - and other child protective agencies - continue to give him unfettered access to boys without supervision?
People who have cared to follow this saga have many questions.....like what was the hurry with the Sandusky Trial? Why were Gary and Tim indicted? Why were they offered plea bargains to turn on Corbett's enemy Spanier? Why was the tape of the "crying janitor" suppressed (you know the one where he said the person he observed in the shower WAS NOT JS. If AM is not V2, why did he get V2's 3 million? Why was PSU so quick to advertise that settlements were waiting for the victims..........and suddenly all who denied abuse were then helped with therapy to remember. Who was leaking GJ info to little Sarah? How does one account for the reaction of MM's Dad and Dr. D if in fact he reported abuse? and on and on and on. This entire case has a stench that should sicken anyone. Is JS completely innocent....not likely. But there are other criminals that need to be exposed in this case. We know perjury was committed by PSP. We know the trial judge was involved with questionable ex parte meetings, one must be blind to think that the OAG heroes like FF didn't commit prosecutorial misconduct. All of this led to a false narrative which led JVP, TC GS, GS and the reputation of PSU ruined. If that doesn't bother you, then why bother to post here? JS is in jail, not likely to be sprung, so enjoy. Black and white is a wonderful way to see the world I guess?
I'm not an expert. I never said I was. But, I can think critically and use my brain to ask reasonable questions. If my ilk is those who can think on their own, great. I'm proud to be a member.
I will pose one two-part question to you. Why hasn't The Second Mile (TSM) foundation ever been investigated, despite the fact that it was the the sole and originating organization that matched Jerry Sandusky with youths? Do you no find that incredibly unusual, especially after they were given information about Sandusky regarding the 1998 shower incident?
If there is a logical and believable answer to that question, super. Let's hear it. I'd love to know.
The vast majority of people with at least half a brain who have taken the time to follow and study the details of this case recognize MANY injustices. The bottom line is that qualifier threshold leaves you and your ilk out in the cold.
We just went a number of pages talking about the retrial and now you are shifting back to other unrelated questions.
Of course it is ridiculous that we are five years out and have not heard anything about TSM. Of course Corbett is corrupt and drug his feet for years, which is loathsome. Of course Freeh's report is garbage. Of course the NCAA was totally wrong in sanctioning PSU. And yes, Paterno has gotten far more negative attention that others who are more deserving of it. But none of those things concern me nearly as much as Sandusky being behind bars.
All of these attacks against people from the truthers do nothing to help PSU.
I'll tell you what-you have a point and I understand some of your points
On the other hand you lose me when you state you don't think the trial was unfair - it has already been clearly demonstrated the trial was a sham
I am not sympathetic to a man who doesn't even take the opportunity to defend himself on the stand and then cries about a trial being unfair. Sorry, but if I was truly innocent of such heinous crimes there is no way in hell I wouldn't take the stand.
How do you know they haven't been investigated? The Second Mile was founded by Sandusky
so a critical thinker like yourself should know they would be included in the Sandusky investigation.
This is just a red herring thrown up by you and the other nutty lemmings who grasp at any straw
to get Sandusky a new trial. You are an embarrassment to PSU and your next rational thought will
be your first.
LOL... You are a clown on this board too..........
Thank you for the compliment. You are absolutely wrong about the TSM (and other facets of the case/situation), but thank you for the compliment
They claim they were not notified about the 1998 investigation. They could be lying but that's what they claim. If they are telling the truth that raises serious questions about Centre County Children and Youth Services.
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