Have to say I’m a big fan and… I don’t see him as any better than a Zain Nolf Bo Cstar AB not to mention Synder Yanni etc.
Is Fanco (Josiah?) still predicting Hidlay over Brooks next year, just like this year?
He'd be the 5th or 6th best wrester in PSU history right now, and that's without knowing how the careers of Brooks and Starocci finish.Have to say I’m a big fan and… I don’t see him as any better than a Zain Nolf Bo Cstar AB not to mention Synder Yanni etc.
Don't think it's all that debatable, really.Retherford had the most dominant 3 year run since Cael IMHO.
James would have definitely completed wrestle backs for his team. 👍He’s behind James English in my binder.
This is mean and totally uncalled for, but we should all show up for Olympic Trials next year wearing "Excuses are for Spencer" T-shirts.
Tough … but fairThe t-shirt should probably say;
Excuses are for Spencer's dad.
Starocci could be another 4-year undefeated champ. Nolf was pretty much the same as Zain except for the injury in the Van Brill match.Retherford had the most dominant 3 year run since Cael IMHO.
Starocci could be another 4-year undefeated champ. Nolf was pretty much the same as Zain except for the injury in the Van Brill z
Zain’s two Hodges put him above Nolf IMO and should have been 3. Although Nolf was certainly out of this world dominant.Starocci could be another 4-year undefeated champ. Nolf was pretty much the same as Zain except for the injury in the Van Brill match.
And without the Past Credentials criteria for the Hodge he probably would have three Hodge trophies.Don't think it's all that debatable, really.
You mean the year they’re making the motion picture “Visionworks Quest” about?The question is does the last year of his career wipe out what he did the other 3 years? I don't think it wipes it out per se, but it does certainly impact it. I think he is a rung down from Nolf, Yanni, Retherford, Dake, etc.
Zain gets a share of DT’s first hodge, right?Zain’s two Hodges put him above Nolf IMO and should have been 3. Although Nolf was certainly out of this world dominant.
Or maybe it's the perpetual PR campaign.Let's call a spade a spade: PSU fans harbor resentment to Spencer because he's a PA kid (and not just a PA kid, in our backyard) who would have fit perfectly here for 4 years while we had a major issue at his weight otherwise. So yeah we rooted for him to fail, is that wrong? Maybe but that's sports. Sports fandom bring out a lot of envy and entitlement in people, it's a negative about it for sure but calling out one fanbase for it is throwing stones in a glass house. It's literally everywhere, every sport. Fan is short for fanatic.
Iowa fans act like they aren't the same way with Kadyn Proctor going to Alabama and don't give me the "Spencer never committed to PSU" difference, far as I'm concerned it's still two kids that ended up doing what they felt was right for them (plus Kadyn Proctor could have held a spot at Iowa for months)
I do wonder if Marstellar would have had the same issues if he had stayed with his PSU commitment.Or maybe it's the perpetual PR campaign.
PSU fans didn't resent Marsteller -- who actually did commit to PSU.
As someone who has been around people like Chance was, the short answer is yes. Chance’s problem was internal, and no amount of external environment will change a person’s internal emotions/issues until they are ready. He finally was ready after the incident at Lock Haven. I am happy for him.I do wonder if Marstellar would have had the same issues if he had stayed with his PSU commitment.
He had those issues in high school. Rumor is Cael put some rules on Marstellar’s commitment to PSU, he left soon after.I do wonder if Marstellar would have had the same issues if he had stayed with his PSU commitment.
But we still thank him for his service.What, no chime in from WildTurk? He of the 'Iowa obsession posts' on this forum.
I figured he'd be on this like a public servant on a paid holiday.
Did having Nick Suriano committed have anything to do with Spencers decision?Let's call a spade a spade: PSU fans harbor resentment to Spencer because he's a PA kid (and not just a PA kid, in our backyard) who would have fit perfectly here for 4 years while we had a major issue at his weight otherwise. So yeah we rooted for him to fail, is that wrong? Maybe but that's sports. Sports fandom bring out a lot of envy and entitlement in people, it's a negative about it for sure but calling out one fanbase for it is throwing stones in a glass house. It's literally everywhere, every sport. Fan is short for fanatic.
Iowa fans act like they aren't the same way with Kadyn Proctor going to Alabama and don't give me the "Spencer never committed to PSU" difference, far as I'm concerned it's still two kids that ended up doing what they felt was right for them (plus Kadyn Proctor could have held a spot at Iowa for months)
That…. And the fact that one should never be let off the hook for stupid mistakes such as…It was the constant boasts from the Iowa coaches and fanbase about Spencer being the GOAT when our team, in our eyes, had produced 7-8 wrestlers that were (at least) his equal in the Cael era. Take away the constant Iowa boasts, and it’s entirely different.
Or maybe it's the perpetual PR campaign.
PSU fans didn't resent Marsteller -- who actually did commit to PSU.
yea and Zain got shafted on one hodge that he should have won easily!Don't think it's all that debatable, really.
Pretty close to my opinion. Kudos to you my friend.😎Exactly
I had no resentment toward Spencer when he committed to Iowa. I was a big fan in 2018 when he took out Tomasello. I was pulling for him again when he met Suriano in the finals the next year.
If I had resentment at all, it wasn't personal. It was more about all the hype from Hawkeye fans.
What do the kids say these days?, Pics or it didn't happen.i thought it was cool the year Joesph, Lee, Nolf (and I thought there was another Pitt area kid) won Natty's and had their pix taken - Repping their HS club