This guy just committed to KY. Now he is going to visit?

[19333lion]

Were we ever in it for this guy before? This is out of the clear blue, for sure. He sounds like a serious player. Wonder what, if anything, it means for our recruitment, of Conliffe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-oklahoma-notre-dame/?utm_term=.3f373b589112

 

[Lion8286]

Were we ever in it for this guy before? This is out of the clear blue, for sure. He sounds like a serious player. Wonder what, if anything, it means for our recruitment, of Conliffe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-oklahoma-notre-dame/?utm_term=.3f373b589112

If only there was a recruiting thread on this board to discuss this.

 

[Judge Smails]

If only there was a recruiting thread on this board to discuss this.

Is this how you act in real life? Because if it is, I'd imagine you've been punched in the face a bunch.

 

[Lion8286]

Is this how you act in real life?

Yes. We know you spend your life on twitter.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Were we ever in it for this guy before? This is out of the clear blue, for sure. He sounds like a serious player. Wonder what, if anything, it means for our recruitment, of Conliffe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-oklahoma-notre-dame/?utm_term=.3f373b589112

Seems like a reach given a teammate committed to UK earlier this week. But if he's interested, might as well have him visit.

 

[19333lion]

Judge, thanks for posting the initial info on this int he recruiting thread. This is pretty big if true. I wonder how PSU got into the picture, and why now?

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Seems like a reach given a teammate committed to UK earlier this week. But if he's interested, might as well have him visit.

His brother also works for UK football. Hm.

 

[fkkkjm]

Is this how you act in real life? Because if it is, I'd imagine you've been punched in the face a bunch.

Mcandrews is better with 8286 on ignore

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Were we ever in it for this guy before? This is out of the clear blue, for sure. He sounds like a serious player. Wonder what, if anything, it means for our recruitment, of Conliffe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-oklahoma-notre-dame/?utm_term=.3f373b589112

I would imagine..... nothing.

 

[Obliviax]

Seems like a reach given a teammate committed to UK earlier this week. But if he's interested, might as well have him visit.

Agree but you never know. Kid could have felt pressure to commit (head coach is OK's brother, Mark Stoops). Kids start committing to "safety schools" at this point, as well. Teams start closing up...like UM, tOSU and Alabama are telling kids that there is no room at the inn for them and/or kids in their position.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Agree but you never know. Kid could have felt pressure to commit (head coach is OK's brother, Mark Stoops). Kids start committing to "safety schools" at this point, as well. Teams start closing up...like UM, tOSU and Alabama are telling kids that there is no room at the inn for them and/or kids in their position.

He appears to be quite a good prospect. Excellent size Do you think he is fast enough to be an MLB?

 

[lionlurker]

A reasonable cynic might conclude that he committed to KY to hold a place for himself.

 

[Obliviax]

He appears to be quite a good prospect. Excellent size Do you think he is fast enough to be an MLB?

I don't know the kid....my brother in law knows the Stoops really well (went to Cardinal Mooney and played football with them, Pellini as well). Both Stoops brothers are high pressure recruiters. KY is trending up...made a bowl. Will be interesting to see how long they can retail Stoops.

BTW, Pelini took a Youngstown State team that had a losing record into the National Championship game this weekend. (after being fired at Nebraska).

Funny story...my BiL's son was playing on a 6th grade team a couple of years ago. The head coach was playing a 5-4-2 defense. My BiL told the coach that defense would not be effective and they had a mild dispute. My BiL pulls out his mobile phone, calls Bo Pelini (at the time, HC of Nebraska), explains that the HC is playing a 5-4-2 and hands the phone to the HC. Pelini calmly explains the problems of playing that defense at that grade and offers to spend a couple of hours walking him through some better defensive alignment options.

 

[lionlurker]

Obli, nothing personal, but your brother in law sounds like the kind of parent that coaches have nightmares about.

 

[Nitt1300]

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Obli, nothing personal, but your brother in law sounds like the kind of parent that coaches have nightmares about.

Yeah - me if I'm a parent anywhere near that...

 

[Judge Smails]

Judge, thanks for posting the initial info on this int he recruiting thread. This is pretty big if true. I wonder how PSU got into the picture, and why now?

I'm sure, just like with Lynn Bowden, the staff has been in contact with him for a long time. Just hasn't reached our radar. But this is one of the ancillary benefits of being on the national radar, just missing the playoffs, all the good buzz from the Rose Bowl, etc. Many blue chip kids want to play for high profile, winning teams. We're in that category now (or...again).

 

[Obliviax]

Obli, nothing personal, but your brother in law sounds like the kind of parent that coaches have nightmares about.

Naw...it was done in a joking, light hearted manor. His son, BTW, now plays for one of the top flight catholic schools. I also have to say, now being older, I'd look out for my sons no matter what the coach said. If I am considered a "bad parent" for that, so be it. Many of these local HS coaches are idiots.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Naw...it was done in a joking, light hearted manor. His son, BTW, now plays for one of the top flight catholic schools. I also have to say, now being older, I'd look out for my sons no matter what the coach said. If I am considered a "bad parent" for that, so be it. Many of these local HS coaches are idiots.

Yeah, but we're talking whether or not a defense is going to work; not whether your kid is going to be unnecessarily injured or put in harm's way. Someone calling Bo Pellini, even if joking, is way too serious about things.

 

[Obliviax]

Yeah, but we're talking whether or not a defense is going to work; not whether your kid is going to be unnecessarily injured or put in harm's way. Someone calling Bo Pellini, even if joking, is way too serious about things.

Nah...you have to know the guy. He's a great guy and very smart.

But I still disagree...i really don't care what my kid's coach thinks anymore. Half of them, this one included, plays his son at QB so he doesn't have to live in the trenches.

Regardless, call me a bad dad, I don't care. I am happy to call out any dad/coach for doing dumb things. I think, as your kids get older, you'll feel the same. There are a lot of really stupid people in positions of authority. You've got to advocate for your kid (while not doing to much at risk of over managing). I will never be ashamed of advocating for my kid.

 

[BBrown]

Yeah, but we're talking whether or not a defense is going to work; not whether your kid is going to be unnecessarily injured or put in harm's way. Someone calling Bo Pellini, even if joking, is way too serious about things.

Yea thats getting really close to douche territory.
I guess thats where the term "helicopter parent" came from.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Nah...you have to know the guy. He's a great guy and very smart.

But I still disagree...i really don't care what my kid's coach thinks anymore. Half of them, this one included, plays his son at QB so he doesn't have to live in the trenches.

Regardless, call me a bad dad, I don't care. I am happy to call out any dad/coach for doing dumb things. I think, as your kids get older, you'll feel the same. There are a lot of really stupid people in positions of authority. You've got to advocate for your kid (while not doing to much at risk of over managing). I will never be ashamed of advocating for my kid.

May have a different take when my kids are older. Really hoping my daughter takes a liking to tennis though I don't know if I can handle being a 'tennis dad'.

 

[Obliviax]

May have a different take when my kids are older. Really hoping my daughter takes a liking to tennis though I don't know if I can handle being a 'tennis dad'.

Yeah...just a couple of weeks ago, my gal decided (at age 12) she wanted to join the basketball team. There weren't enough kids to have a "b" team (the team that has no problem loosing, the A team wants to win). So the coach calls my wife to tell her that my daughter will have to be on the A team and tried to talk her out of playing. My wife tells him that she wants to be part of the team and we want her to have that experience. Coach tells my wife that my girl will "probably get hurt".

I don't think that is cool. So I made my move. Dude got in a little trouble but I couldn't give a rat's ass. He'll not pay any penalties, but I wanted to make sure he knew I was listening. BTW, he's the father of one of the better players on the team. Its a CYO team BTW. I may be a d-bag, but IMHO, he's a bigger d-bag. My point is, the other parents that decide they want to coach, paid attention too. I honestly don't care what collateral damage I may have done. I am concerned with my child, not his.

 

[PSUSignore]

If only there was a recruiting thread on this board to discuss this.

Sorting through a 20 page thread to find 3-4 relevant posts about this recruit is too time consuming unless you've been following that thread all along. This is one of the drawbacks of thread topic view.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

I'm sure, just like with Lynn Bowden, the staff has been in contact with him for a long time. Just hasn't reached our radar. But this is one of the ancillary benefits of being on the national radar, just missing the playoffs, all the good buzz from the Rose Bowl, etc. Many blue chip kids want to play for high profile, winning teams. We're in that category now (or...again).

Well that, and we now finally have an entire staff that recruits, not just 3-4 guys like before.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Sorting through a 20 page thread to find 3-4 relevant posts about this recruit is too time consuming unless you've been following that thread all along. This is one of the drawbacks of thread view.

You mean topic view. Have any kids who play sports?

 

[Madsol]

Yeah...just a couple of weeks ago, my gal decided (at age 12) she wanted to join the basketball team. There weren't enough kids to have a "b" team (the team that has no problem loosing, the A team wants to win). So the coach calls my wife to tell her that my daughter will have to be on the A team and tried to talk her out of playing. My wife tells him that she wants to be part of the team and we want her to have that experience. Coach tells my wife that my girl will "probably get hurt".

I don't think that is cool. So I made my move. Dude got in a little trouble but I couldn't give a rat's ass. He'll not pay any penalties, but I wanted to make sure he knew I was listening. BTW, he's the father of one of the better players on the team. Its a CYO team BTW. I may be a d-bag, but IMHO, he's a bigger d-bag. My point is, the other parents that decide they want to coach, paid attention too. I honestly don't care what collateral damage I may have done. I am concerned with my child, not his.

Obli, what about he's right, and your daughter shouldn't be playing on that team because she might get hurt? Why wouldn't you want the coach to tell you that?

 

[Obliviax]

Obli, what about he's right, and your daughter shouldn't be playing on that team because she might get hurt? Why wouldn't you want the coach to tell you that?

F him. Its a CYO league...its basketball...a non-contact sport....if someone gets hurt, its probably his fault.

 

[PSUSignore]

You mean topic view. Have any kids who play sports?

Thanks, I get the 2 mixed up frequently but the point is the same. Massive threads are very cumbersome for someone new to start reading through so you end up with multiple threads covering the same info. Particularly here where many threads have 10 pages of bickering in there (the recruiting thread is a notable exception!).

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Yeah...just a couple of weeks ago, my gal decided (at age 12) she wanted to join the basketball team. There weren't enough kids to have a "b" team (the team that has no problem loosing, the A team wants to win). So the coach calls my wife to tell her that my daughter will have to be on the A team and tried to talk her out of playing. My wife tells him that she wants to be part of the team and we want her to have that experience. Coach tells my wife that my girl will "probably get hurt".

I don't think that is cool. So I made my move. Dude got in a little trouble but I couldn't give a rat's ass. He'll not pay any penalties, but I wanted to make sure he knew I was listening. BTW, he's the father of one of the better players on the team. Its a CYO team BTW. I may be a d-bag, but IMHO, he's a bigger d-bag. My point is, the other parents that decide they want to coach, paid attention too. I honestly don't care what collateral damage I may have done. I am concerned with my child, not his.

Probably need some kind of OT thread on this stuff. Still, it's really interesting. I mean, if your daughter wasn't going to play, was someone else going to play? Or did he just not want her on the team because she was young/inexperienced? Or just because she wasn't good (or he thought she wasn't good)?

 

[Madsol]

F him. Its a CYO league...its basketball...a non-contact sport....if someone gets hurt, its probably his fault.

I don't get it...I would think you would be upset if your daughter did get hurt and the coach HADN'T said something.

And my daughter's middle school basketball games last year were often like rugby matches. She was always on the floor, scrambling for the ball. The skill level at that age isn't very high so the girls don't know how to avoid contact. It's very easy for me to imagine a coach being concerned about a girl being unable to protect herself against bigger girls.

 

[83wuzme]

He appears to be quite a good prospect. Excellent size Do you think he is fast enough to be an MLB?

I dunno. 6'3", 250. He is already an NFL - sized ILB.

 

[Obliviax]

I don't get it...I would think you would be upset if your daughter did get hurt and the coach HADN'T said something.

And my daughter's middle school basketball games last year were often like rugby matches. She was always on the floor, scrambling for the ball. The skill level at that age isn't very high so the girls don't know how to avoid contact. It's very easy for me to imagine a coach being concerned about a girl being unable to protect herself against bigger girls.

Its middle school basketball. Nobody should be getting hurt. if so, that is on the coach. If its a couple of bumps and bruises, a turned ankle, that is part of the game and the value of sports. To have some guy, who's never met my daughter say and do this for a CYO league? BS.

 

[Obliviax]

Probably need some kind of OT thread on this stuff. Still, it's really interesting. I mean, if your daughter wasn't going to play, was someone else going to play? Or did he just not want her on the team because she was young/inexperienced? Or just because she wasn't good?

That's the point...he said he "wasn't going to play" and when that didn't deter us, it was "she may get hurt". The assumption is at practice (if she's not going to play) Later, I learned that in CYO, everyone has to play for something like five minutes. In Volleyball, where my daughter was pretty good, there were coaches that didn't want to play the gals that weren't very good because they didn't want to lose. Sorry....that's against the ethos of CYO sports. At some point, I get it, its to win. But in CYO, its for participation. This is from the CYO web site:

The young person, not the athletic activity, is the primary focus of CYO athletics.
​

You want to win? Join a different league than CYO.

 

[bjf1991]

I don't know the kid....my brother in law knows the Stoops really well (went to Cardinal Mooney and played football with them, Pellini as well). Both Stoops brothers are high pressure recruiters. KY is trending up...made a bowl. Will be interesting to see how long they can retail Stoops.

BTW, Pelini took a Youngstown State team that had a losing record into the National Championship game this weekend. (after being fired at Nebraska).

Funny story...my BiL's son was playing on a 6th grade team a couple of years ago. The head coach was playing a 5-4-2 defense. My BiL told the coach that defense would not be effective and they had a mild dispute. My BiL pulls out his mobile phone, calls Bo Pelini (at the time, HC of Nebraska), explains that the HC is playing a 5-4-2 and hands the phone to the HC. Pelini calmly explains the problems of playing that defense at that grade and offers to spend a couple of hours walking him through some better defensive alignment options.

1 - Stoops was about 2 games away from getting booted out at Kentucky (Then pulled off the upset of LVille)

Suffice to say - I don't think they are concerned about "losing him"

2 - Your Bro In Law could make a living at the Carnival as the "Living, Breathing Douchebag"

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

That's the point...he said he "wasn't going to play" and when that didn't deter us, it was "she may get hurt". The assumption is at practice (if she's not going to play) Later, I learned that in CYO, everyone has to play for something like five minutes. In Volleyball, where my daughter was pretty good, there were coaches that didn't want to play the gals that weren't very good because they didn't want to lose. Sorry....that's against the ethos of CYO sports. At some point, I get it, its to win. But in CYO, its for participation. This is from the CYO web site:

The young person, not the athletic activity, is the primary focus of CYO athletics.
​

You want to win? Join a different league than CYO.

What is CYO? Okay, so he didn't want her to play because he'd have to play her and he didn't know how good she was or assumed she wasn't good. That's why I'm gently steering my daughter to tennis - win/lose on your own.

 

[Obliviax]

What is CYO? Okay, so he didn't want her to play because he'd have to play her and he didn't know how good she was or assumed she wasn't good. That's why I'm gently steering my daughter to tennis - win/lose on your own.

CYO is a catholic charities sports initiative. The idea is to promote participation, inclusion, engagement and teamwork in a positive manner (as opposed to standing on a street corner at 11:45 at night).

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

CYO is a catholic charities sports initiative. The idea is to promote participation, inclusion, engagement and teamwork in a positive manner (as opposed to standing on a street corner at 11:45 at night).

Ah, ok. Yeah, being a 'try hard' there is overdoing it a bit. This isn't IMG Academy Ohio or anything, right?

 

[gogolion]

You've got to advocate for your kid

Standing up for your kid when the coach says they're not good enough to play in the CYO league (or might get hurt) is advocating for your kid. Questioning the coach's choice of defense is not. That is interfering with the coach and being a douche.

 

[Ranger Dan]

Were we ever in it for this guy before? This is out of the clear blue, for sure. He sounds like a serious player. Wonder what, if anything, it means for our recruitment, of Conliffe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-oklahoma-notre-dame/?utm_term=.3f373b589112

Where did you see that he was visiting? I didn't read that in the article, but maybe I missed it.