Hate is a strong word. Dislike is more accurate.I doubt anyone hates Spencer!
Hate is a strong word. Dislike is more accurate.I doubt anyone hates Spencer!
Well one thing seems certain. That is one kid who is committed and had not placed limits on himself. How can you not be impressed with what he has accomplished? I don't know where his ceiling is, and it seems neither does anyone else.
Congrats on your 4 placers. Iowa's entire roster beat PSU 86 kg, 4-3. Not too shabby!Congrats Spencer! Keep proving those haters wrong young man!
Lol. Can't help yourself can you. Thanks for your service. I can't help myselfCongrats Spencer! Keep proving those haters wrong young man!
He reminds me of a younger me on hr five years ago before I got banned just couldn't keep my mouth shut lolI doubt anyone hates Spencer!
Totally agree. Sad thing is that they still think he’s a goat despite counting more lights than the top 5 Penn State wrestlers combined.My dislike for Spencer is based mostly on the fact that his fan base was so obnoxious during his reign. I was told by Hawk fans that he is the best Hawk ever and after he wins 4x he will be considered the best ever NCAA wrestler of all time. My wanting him to lose is more of a desire for his fanboys to eat crow than ill will towards Spencer.
Yes, we are obsessed with Spencer.Congrats Spencer! Keep proving those haters wrong young man!
Top 5 combined is generous toward Iowa. PSU has had six 3x champs under Cael: Zain, Nolf, Carter, Ruth, Brooks, Nickal. None were pinned in their college careers.Totally agree. Sad thing is that they still think he’s a goat despite counting more lights than the top 5 Penn State wrestlers combined.
Congrats Spencer! Keep proving those haters wrong young man!
Not totally true, @Sett1997 is a good guy.Typical ... lots of great wrestling this weekend, but not a peep from Hawk fans until Lord Spencer does something good.
If it were not for assholes like yourself, Spencer would get as much love/respect as other great wrestlers. And yes, SL is just one of many.
I was peeping!Typical ... lots of great wrestling this weekend, but not a peep from Hawk fans until Lord Spencer does something good.
If it were not for assholes like yourself, Spencer would get as much love/respect as other great wrestlers. And yes, SL is just one of many.
Not believing he’s the all time GOAT isn’t hating on him. Poking fun at good mom destroying her glasses is just hilarious. Spencer was one of the better wrestlers in his era in college and now he wrestles for the USA, so I definitely support him:Congrats Spencer! Keep proving those haters wrong young man!
don't blame Spencer for those loser iowa fans!it kills them knowing the best ever iowa wrestler is from PA!!My dislike for Spencer is based mostly on the fact that his fan base was so obnoxious during his reign. I was told by Hawk fans that he is the best Hawk ever and after he wins 4x he will be considered the best ever NCAA wrestler of all time. My wanting him to lose is more of a desire for his fanboys to eat crow than ill will towards Spencer.
It’s Christmas time and I was in a generous mood. In reality I was to lazy to do the research and gave a quick safe number.Top 5 combined is generous toward Iowa. PSU has had six 3x champs under Cael: Zain, Nolf, Carter, Ruth, Brooks, Nickal. None were pinned in their college careers.
Unless I missed something, all national champs in the Cael Era have combined for 4 pins against (1 each for Nico, RBY, Taylor, Q).
met Quincy last year , he came across as gracious and humble . Basically easy guy to root for, actually have met a few guys from the area (Rider, Princeton and Rutgers) and the ones I have met I left with a good impression.if your PSU and dissapointed
Have to be a little happy seeing Quincy Monday tech Moria’s husband….what’s his face…12-2. 🤣
Was Nick pinned in first round of Nattys in his first year? The year he ran off 6-7 wins on back side.Top 5 combined is generous toward Iowa. PSU has had six 3x champs under Cael: Zain, Nolf, Carter, Ruth, Brooks, Nickal. None were pinned in their college careers.
Unless I missed something, all national champs in the Cael Era have combined for 4 pins against (1 each for Nico, RBY, Taylor, Q).
Mark Hall vs Connor Mirasola
Hall high crotch. Not sure how Mirasola defended that but he did. Stalemate. Shot clock for Connor. 1-0 Mark as clock expires. 1-0 at the break.
Connor briefly had an ankle. Connor counter TD and it’s 2-1 Mirasola. Hall has a single and finishes. 3-2 Hall. Connor in on a single but Hall scores on a counter TD. 5-2 now. There the experience difference showed itself. Hall again counters a Connor shot and it’s 7-2. Can’t fault Mirasola for being aggressive.
Yes, by Ryan Diehl of Maryland. Diehl also beat Jason Nolf when they were in high school. I would take Nick and Jason’s long term results, but Diehl had a nice career.Was Nick pinned in first round of Nattys in his first year? The year he ran off 6-7 wins on back side.
I could prolly count on 2 hands the total amount of NF points our 3xers gave up.
don't blame Spencer for those loser iowa fans!it kills them knowing the best ever iowa wrestler is from PA!!
Ironic, in that you continually prove your haters right.Congrats Spencer! Keep proving those haters wrong young man!
More like Spencer shutting up those loser Penn State fans that have been trash talking him and his family for a long time now.don't blame Spencer for those loser iowa fans!it kills them knowing the best ever iowa wrestler is from PA!!
Hell yeah Spencer. Way to go! Keep fighting off that disrespect!Ironic, in that you continually prove your haters right
I’m not sure it’s within his power to shut his critics up. If he wins, they will find reason to minimize. If he loses, then they will dunk. Maybe best to give up that battle, and realize message board posters aren’t really all that important to his goals nor his sense of well being?More like Spencer shutting up those loser Penn State fans that have been trash talking him and his family for a long time now.
He got pinned twice in his career, by Kaden Gfeller (the not most stable human being) and Ryan Diehl.Was Nick pinned in first round of Nattys in his first year? The year he ran off 6-7 wins on back side.
I could prolly count on 2 hands the total amount of NF points our 3xers gave up.
Im a hawk fan and have been saying this for yrs.Typical ... lots of great wrestling this weekend, but not a peep from Hawk fans until Lord Spencer does something good.
If it were not for all the HR assholes like yourself, Spencer would get as much love/respect as other great wrestlers. And yes, SL is just one of many.
Zain has turned into such an animal I'm not sure anyone in the World can beat him 2 of 3.So, which of today’s champs have the best chance at making the olympics? Spencer is obviously #1, but I wouldn’t sleep on Allirez if I was Nick, Yianni or Zain. He looks super good. I’d mention Monday, but we’re too loaded at the top of 74, IMO.
Allirez looked real good.So, which of today’s champs have the best chance at making the olympics? Spencer is obviously #1, but I wouldn’t sleep on Allirez if I was Nick, Yianni or Zain. He looks super good. I’d mention Monday, but we’re too loaded at the top of 74, IMO.
I'm just having FUN on a Sunday afternoon. No big dealI’m not sure it’s within his power to shut his critics up. If he wins, they will find reason to minimize. If he loses, then they will dunk. Maybe best to give up that battle, and realize message board posters aren’t really all that important to his goals nor his sense of well being?
Yeah, if he was a natural 65 at this point, or 70 was the olympic weight, I’d completely agree.Zain has turned into such an animal I'm not sure anyone in the World can beat him 2 of 3.
He just seems to be cut from a different cloth mentally.
Diehl was a 4x state champ. Two in PA after two in (I think) MarylandYes, by Ryan Diehl of Maryland. Diehl also beat Jason Nolf when they were in high school. I would take Nick and Jason’s long term results, but Diehl had a nice career.
I edited my post on the 65kg question. How hard of cut is it for him? Just ridiculous that they don't have the World weights for the olympics.Yeah, if he was a natural 65 at this point, or 70 was the olympic weight, I’d completely agree.
I dunno, if he makes the team absolutely. Until then I’d celebrate any underdog knocking him off…Spencer was one of the better wrestlers in his era in college and now he wrestles for the USA, so I definitely support him:
Definitely Spencer. For others… Beau has shown he can wrestle with the best and Alirez dominated him. Moore is a heck of a wrestler but has too strong an opponent to get thru to make the team. Ditto Dieringer and Monday.So, which of today’s champs have the best chance at making the olympics? Spencer is obviously #1, but I wouldn’t sleep on Allirez if I was Nick, Yianni or Zain. He looks super good. I’d mention Monday, but we’re too loaded at the top of 74, IMO.
Oh I tell ya, this a rough board, rough boardNot totally true, @Sett1997 is a good guy.
Apparently not given to him by Bruce Baumgartner.Allirez looked real good.
I'm just having FUN on a Sunday afternoon. No big deal
Nolf then brutalized Diehl at Disney:Yes, by Ryan Diehl of Maryland. Diehl also beat Jason Nolf when they were in high school. I would take Nick and Jason’s long term results, but Diehl had a nice career.
Guilty, your honor.I doubt anyone hates Spencer!
It needs repeating 😎Facundo with a nice tournament placing 3rd.
West Virginia.Diehl was a 4x state champ. Two in PA after two in (I think) Maryland
Bad enough that on the Baschamania podcast after worlds, he was noncommital about whether he'd be cutting to 65 or going to 74 for trials. He sits in the semis, and I have to think he'll choose 65, but maybe it just isn't in the cards anymore. Definitely frustrated w/ the weight options we have at the Olympics . . . By most accounts, this will be Zain's final rodeo, so it'd be great if he could go out at his best weight.How hard of cut is it for him?