I’m with you. But it was UT’s first win vs Bama in 15 years. Not exactly wonderful. 1-15 in the last 16. And Utah beat USC. We need some OL and DLine Depth. And a couple big time Wideouts.
We are a spoiled fan base…………
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Is this a joke?
Paterno should have gone years before he did for starters and what happened yesterday isn't acceptable regardless of who is coaching the team
We could go 10-2 this year without a meaningful win. No fan base is "spoiled" for expecting better. We have yet to make the playoff which is completely unacceptable for our level of a program.
Yes, you're only relevant if you make the platoff and win titles
That's why FBS is a joke--most teams are irrelevant before they play their first game
The structure needs to change drastically--12 team playoff is a start but it needs to double including all conference winners--see every other college sport.
Two top 10 recruiting classes in eight years doesn’t really qualify as “recruited top 10 talent”.
Watched #18 for USC starting at LB last night from Neumann-Goretti in Philly. 6 foot 8 200 lb soph transfer from Arizona State. 3 star without a PSU offer. Announcers were talking him up big time as "the next Ted Hendricks."
Cal Haladay from Flemings Central Columbia class is a LB at MSU and has great stats, albeit on a defense that has given up a lot of ground. We have a clear shortage at LB- some of which may be due to in state whiffs.
There also could be a reason why our Michigan recruits aren't at UM. Last year #4 King played a strong game until he got picked for the game deciding long catch/run by Alt. He was visibly upset after the loss- maybe taking it personally.
Sometimes you want something so badly that you lose perspective. Yesterday the Kings and Buddin got beaten soundly in what likely is their Super Bowl.
I sat about 20 rows behind our bench last year for the Michigan game. The grit of our team in that game was admirable. Clifford was getting beaten to hell on seemingly every play, but willed us to take the lead late. Sadly, yesterday none of that spirit or toughness was on display.
I'm sorry--who was announcing the game that they referred to him as the next Ted Hendricks who retired from the NFL in the early 80s....
Stopped reading here as this already seems fake
I was born in 76 and grew up watching them so for as long as I can remember
And, I agree, we are the king of have a good record without beating anyone with a pulse.
I wasn't happy with where we were then either but what's the goal for this program
When the playoff expands to 12 teams the SEC and Big Ten will be expected to have 3 teams yearly--under Franklin are we going to make the playoff at least 3 of 5 years while being competitive in those games. If not, it's time for a change.
I am calling BS on that. We are not better than we were from 2005 to 2010. Not even close. Franklin hasn't had a team in the ball park of 05, 08 or 09 and most of his teams haven't been as good as 06, 07 or 10. Most significantly worse.
almost everyone goes to a bowl. If you’re not going to bowls you’re a terrible team. We should be thankful we aren’t Rutgers?
The team is soft, that's on the coach. They seem unprepared, that's on the coach.
You sell PennState the brand short. PennState is the only major player in the north east. Franklin is fortunate to be in such a great situation.
That score doesn’t begin to tell the story of how bad this team was beaten.
We are stuck with a garbage "head coach" for a decade. Pretty sure we're in worse shape now.
Head coaches can always be fired--other than Mike Tomlin
I strongly disagree. We've had that conversation on this board about bowl games. A few say why bother if we're not playing for a national championship. I think that's ridiculous.
I think PSU should average 9-10 wins per year and beat teams like OSU & UM at least 1/3 of the time. That doesn't seem like a high bar for a school with such a huge following.
We can absolutely afford it--the Big Ten TV money alone allows us to
Yep, psu has consistently under performed against them . Now Michigan we’re 10-16 against I think , but we are consistently behind those two.
Early 2000s were horrible but....
11 wins 2005
9 wins 2006
9 wins 2007
11 wins 2008
11 wins 2009
7 wins 2010
8-1 in 2011 before Joe was fired
2 BiG titles during that span.
When the playoff expands to 12 beating Michigan half the time (or at least close to it) and Ohio State 20-25% of the time would be acceptable.
We are below the Morelli years right now. 14, 15, 20, and 21 (22 is trending there) are worse than 06 and 07. 2018 is on par with 2010. We are not close to the dark years just yet but if we don't snap out of where we are, it won't be long based on what has happened other other teams that use similar philosophies and don't get over the hump or right the ship (post-Fulmer Tennessee, post-Carroll USC, post-Meyer Florida to name a few).
Right--the expectation is to win the other games unless we play someone like USC when they join.
Paterno was 3-6 vs Tressel. The lifetime series was pretty much even until the slide over the past decade.
I think PSU is 7-6 vs Michigan since 2008.
IMO 9-10 wins most years with a BiG title every 4 years sounds pretty good to me.
Does a Big Ten title matter once the playoff starts? Isn't it just about getting to the playoff and then winning games?
At full strength, Minnesota would be a favorite and getting a last minute win at Purdue is promoted as a great win.
This pretty much sums up the state of Penn State football right now.
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And most were calling for Joe to retire. Somehow Franklin is doing a great job with essentially the same record. During my 30 plus years as a fan, I cannot ever remember being less optimistic about the state of the program. Additionally, I don’t ever remember a one sided game like yesterday. Maybe once close to this bad against OSU.
Lol. The first half was just as bad. The score don’t tell the story of dominance by UM. The game was far more lopsided then the final score indicates.
Franklin can fix this by getting good adviser's when it comes to recruiting linemen, he is just not very good at it. He recently acknowledged they need more size on the defensive line. I remember Paterno stating the same thing after playing a year or two in the big ten. I don't know why Franklin thought having 260 pound DT would work.
Then we
This entire game looked like UM was scrimmaging a high school team. At best a terrible JC team. This was the most lopsided loss in the history of PennState. I dread seeing my UM friends after this.
They actually did win three of those. 99, 02 and 05. The officials thought otherwise however.
