Weekly Review of Rankings for 12/18/18

[Tom McAndrew]

Week 5 of the weekly review. I'll update this as additional rankings are posted, and generate the Averages once all of the rankings have been posted.


InterMat
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 16th (No PSUer)
141: Nick Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 11th (12th)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 3rd (4th)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 5th (5th)
Tournament - 1st (1st)
Dual Meet - 1st (1st)


The Open Mat
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 20th (20th)
141: N. Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 13th (15th)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 3rd (4th)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 2nd (2nd)
Tournament Team - 1st (1st)
Dual Team - 1st (1st)


FloWrestling
125: NoPSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 17th (No PSUer)
141: Nick Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 13th (No PSUer)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 7th (6th)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 3rd (3rd)
P4P:
Nolf - 1st (1st)
Nickal - 2nd (2nd)
Joseph - 4th (4th)
Hall - 7th (7th)
Team - 1st (1st)


Theraworx NWCA Division I Wrestling Coach Poll
PSU - 1st (1st)


WIN Magazine
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 20th (20th)
141: Nick Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 17th (No PSUer)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 3rd (4th)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 4th (4th)
Tournament Team - 1st (1st)
Dual Team - 1st (1st)


Amateur Wrestling News -- not yet posted; these are last week's rankings
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 13th (13th)
141: Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 19th (No PSUer)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 2nd (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 4th (4th)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 4th (4th)


TrackWrestling
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 14th (14th)
141: Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 19th (20th)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Shakur Rasheed - 3rd (4th)
197: Bo Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 4th (4th)
Team - 1st (1st)


WrestlingByPirate Dual Impact Index
125: Devin Schnupp - 57th (54th), Justin Lopez - 57th (54th)
133: RBY - 1st (2nd)
141: Lee - 5th (6th), Scott Obendorfer - 49th (47th), Dominic Giannangell - 49th (47th)
149: Berge - 16th (27th), Jarod Verkleeren - 25th (27th), Luke Gardner - 38th (40th)
157: Nolf - 4th (4th), Bo Pipher - 41st (39th)
165: Joseph - 2nd (3rd)
174: Hall - 3rd (4th)
184: Rasheed - 3rd (5th), Francisco Bisono - 60th (61st)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 2nd (2nd), Nicholas - 63rd (62nd)
P4P:
Nickal - 14th (5th)
Nolf - 16th (26th)
Joseph - 18th (32nd)
RBY - 20th (22nd)
Hall - 25th (40th)
Rasheed - 28th (37th)
Cassar - 39th (43rd)
Lee - 58th (73rd)
Berge - 145th (203rd)
Schnapps - 560th (541st)
Team - 1st (1st)
Dual-Component - 1st (new ranking)
Roster-Component - 1st (new ranking)


WrestleStat
125: Justin Lopez - 96th (90th), Devin Schnupp - 117th (115th), Gavin Teasdale - 186th (183rd), Brody Teske - 186th (183rd), Brandon Meredith - 186th (183rd)
133: Roman Bravo-Young - 11th (18th), Austin Clabaugh - 137th (135th), Pat Higgins - 143rd (141st), Scott Stossel - 175th (173rd), Jack Davis - 207th (205th), Jon Consorti - 224th (222nd)
141: Nick Lee - 4th (4th), Scott Obendorfer - 86th (85th), Mason Lindenmuth - 93rd (92nd), Dom Giannangeli - 118th (118th)
149: Jarod Verkleeren - 15th (14th), Brady Berge - 20th (20th), Luke Gardner - 73rd (71st), Joey Blumer - 81st (81st), Richie McClanahan - 114th (116th), Paul Feite - 221st (221st)
157: Jason Nolf - 1st (1st), Bo Pipher - 42nd (40th), Brian Friery - 211th (208th)
165: Vincenzo Joseph - 1st (1st), Creighton Edsel - 197th (195th), Konner Kraeszig - 197th (195th)
174: Mark Hall - 1st (1st), Mason Manville - 65th (63rd)
184: Shakur Rasheed - 3rd (3rd), Francisco Bisono - 61st (59th), Austin Hoopes - 197th (196th)
197: Bo Nickal - 1st (1st), James Hoeg - 120th (116th)
285: Nick Nevills - 6th (5th), Anthony Cassar - 13th (12th), Alex Nicholas - 209th (210th)
Team Dual - 1st (1st)
Team Tournament - 1st (1st)


Average without Computer Generated Rankings
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 17th (17th)
141: Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 15th (17th)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 4th (4th)
197: Nickel - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 4th (4th)
Team: 1st (1st)

Average with Computer Generated Rankings
125: No PSUer (No PSUer)
133: RBY - 14th (15th)
141: Lee - 4th (4th)
149: Berge - 17th (19th)
157: Nolf - 1st (1st)
165: Joseph - 1st (1st)
174: Hall - 1st (2nd)
184: Rasheed - 4th (4th)
197: Nickal - 1st (1st)
285: Cassar - 5th (4th)
Team: 1st (1st)

Just a reminder that to be included in the Average, a wrestler must be listed in more than half of the rankings. Amateur Wrestling News never posted their rankings, so I'm using the prior week's rankings for the Average.


InterMat's 12/18 Rankings

The Open Mat's 12/18 Rankings

The Open Mat's 12/19 Team Rankings

FloWrestling's 12/17 Rankings

Theraworx NWCA Division I Wrestling Coach Poll for 12/18

WIN Magazine's 12/17 Rankings

TrackWrestling's 12/17 Rankings

WrestlingByPirate Dual Impact Index for 12/17

WrestleStat's 12/18 Rankings

 

[pish69]

Interested in Flos logic with the P4P. Zahid stays at 3 after the loss?

Edit..I tweeted Spey. He replied it was oversight, and now remedied. Mark Hall moves to 3, Zahid to 4 and Joseph to 5

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Interested in Flos logic with the P4P. Zahid stays at 3 after the loss?

Edit..I tweeted Spey. He replied it was oversight, and now remedied. Mark Hall moves to 3, Zahid to 4 and Joseph to 5

that surprised me as well. I was also surprised that they had no commentary indicating why Zahid stayed where he did, and why Hall stayed where he did, despite the results of their head-to-head match. I'll update my post to reflect Flo's correction.

 

[diggerpup]

FLO P4P

3 Markie
4 Zahid
5 Cenzo


I only think FLO kept Zahid at 4 in order to avoid a bushels I’d hate mail to rank 4 Nittany Lions at 1-2-3-4 at P4P.

(Although I would have Spencer Lee at 4, myself )

———-

FLO is sniffing glue to have Rasheed at 7. LMFAO.

But. I guess we’ll see by mid January. Rasheed really has not been tested.

 

[pish69]

FLO is sniffing glue to have Rasheed at 7. LMFAO.

But. I guess we’ll see by mid January. Rasheed really has not been tested.

I tweeted Spey on this. I want to know the logic as well on this one. The one thing I give props to the Flo guys is they usually will explain it though we may not agree

No way no how should guys with multiple losses be ahead of Shak. They overvalued ZZ and Venz to begin with (although I understand why they started where they did), but then when they lose, they not only kept them ahead of Shak, the lower ranked guys that beat them jumped ahead of Shak as well (Reenan and Foster). Meanwhile they kept Ness and Dean below? Not consistent. Shak should have moved up not down when they guys ahead of him lost IMO

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I'll update my post to reflect Flo's correction.

Hopefully, Rivals will let me update it tomorrow. I keep getting an error code when I attempt to update it this evening.

 

[pointingdogsrule]

Rankings don't mean a whole lot me, except for tournament seeding. With that stated can someone explain to me how p4p is determined. THANKS.

 

[SWPA]

Rankings don't mean a whole lot me, except for tournament seeding. With that stated can someone explain to me how p4p is determined. THANKS.

Like any other rankings they are based on subjectivity. Therefore, no two rankings will be the exact same. Even if you have a algorithm and try to take the subjectivity out. That is why we discuss them and choose individually who we like best. (Whoever puts PSU guys at the top in this case I would guess. Lol.) P4P (depending on who is doing the ranking) is a career award, not just seasonal. Big wins usually mean more than losses.

 

[Ja1339]

I apologize if this is restating the obvious, but Intermat has us with:

4 #1 ranked wrestlers
1 #3
1 #4
1 #5
1 #11
1 #16

Let this roll off your tongue slowly...
7 wrestlers ranked in the top 5

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I apologize if this is restating the obvious, but Intermat has us with:

4 #1 ranked wrestlers
1 #3
1 #4
1 #5
1 #11
1 #16

Let this roll off your tongue slowly...
7 wrestlers ranked in the top 5

Again, to quote Buckeye Joey, “we’re a scary team”

.... but not yet a great program #finitenegativism

 

[SetonHallPirate]

I apologize if this is restating the obvious, but Intermat has us with:

4 #1 ranked wrestlers
1 #3
1 #4
1 #5
1 #11
1 #16

Let this roll off your tongue slowly...
7 wrestlers ranked in the top 5

The "abacus" has eight in the top five. Also, I suspect that there is plenty of upward room for PSU due to their presently-suspect strength of schedule (Nolf 4th at his weight? Any human who came up with that would be drawn and quartered!). The only weight from 133-285 where anybody who is rated higher than the Penn State wrestler has a weaker SOS is Cassioppi at heavyweight. Remember that the Dual Impact Index does not very much care that Jason Nolf is a two-time national champion or a three-time finalist, as everybody starts on November 1st with a completely blank slate.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Any human who came up with that would be drawn and quartered!).

SHP, don't be too tough on yourself.

BTW, I don't think I congratulated you a few weeks ago, when your alma mater's BB team defeated Kentucky. It's been awhile since The Hall had a win like that.

 

[dunkej01]

The "abacus" has eight in the top five. Also, I suspect that there is plenty of upward room for PSU due to their presently-suspect strength of schedule (Nolf 4th at his weight? Any human who came up with that would be drawn and quartered!). The only weight from 133-285 where anybody who is rated higher than the Penn State wrestler has a weaker SOS is Cassioppi at heavyweight. Remember that the Dual Impact Index does not very much care that Jason Nolf is a two-time national champion or a three-time finalist, as everybody starts on November 1st with a completely blank slate.

Waaaaaaait a minute. I was under the impression he was pinning AAs, studs and freaks of nature these last two months.

Does not compute.