Weights without a returning/former national champ

[wrestlingfan22]

There looks to be 3 weights this year that will not have a returning/former national champ
133, 157, 165
All the others have 1 or 2
125-Figs
141-Alirez, Mendez
149-Henson
174-Haines, KOT
184-CSTAR, Keck
197: Albert James
285-Kerk

What do people think about these 4 weights? All are interesting to me and have some question marks that could end up making a big difference.

 

[lookleft goright]

197 has AJ returning. He may not be there at the end of the season, but he is there now.

 

[wrestlingfan22]

197 has AJ returning. He may not be there at the end of the season, but he is there now.

good catch

 

[wrestlingfan22]

I think 165 has the biggest favorite with Messenbrink, don't really see anyone challenging him except for maybe Sasso if he somehow returns at 100% at 165 (which would be a miracle).

 

[zzs006]

I think MM is one of the biggest favorites no matter the weight. He has hammered pretty much everyone ranked below him including Caliendo who is ranked 2nd. I also think he likely jumps another level which is terrifying for the rest of the field

 

[NoVa Lion]

There looks to be 3 weights this year that will not have a returning/former national champ
133, 157, 165
All the others have 1 or 2
125-Figs
141-Alirez, Mendez
149-Henson
174-Haines, KOT
184-CSTAR, Keck
197: Albert James
285-Kerk

What do people think about these 4 weights? All are interesting to me and have some question marks that could end up making a big difference.

What do you mean by making a big difference? Certainly won't make a big difference in the NCAA team score. If things don't go our way at those 4 weights maybe we win by only 70 points instead of 100.

As to the individual weights IMHO Nagao finishes top 4 at 133 as does Kasak at 157. IMHO Mesenbrink wins at 165. Just like last year we will probably threaten to have 10 AAs.

 

[amattaro]

I think MM is one of the biggest favorites no matter the weight. He has hammered pretty much everyone ranked below him including Caliendo who is ranked 2nd. I also think he likely jumps another level which is terrifying for the rest of the field

He’s more likely to have 100% bonus this year than he is to lose a match. And he ain’t losing a match. BOOK IT

 

[wrestlingfan22]

What do you mean by making a big difference? Certainly won't make a big difference in the NCAA team score. If things don't go our way at those 4 weights maybe we win by only 70 points instead of 100.

As to the individual weights IMHO Nagao finishes top 4 at 133 as does Kasak at 157. IMHO Mesenbrink wins at 165. Just like last year we will probably threaten to have 10 AAs.

I just mean there are question marks at each weight such as who will be there or guys returning from injury. I am not talking about team score at all.
Examples are Davis or Nagao at 133 for PSU, Facundo or Kasak at 157 for PSU. Ayala moving up to 133, SVN coming back form injury, Byrd and Cannon coming off redshirts at 133, 165 has the Sasso question, etc, etc..

 

[Nitlion1986]

He’s more likely to have 100% bonus this year than he is to lose a match. And he ain’t losing a match. BOOK IT

Whether he has a 100% bonus rate is probably dependent on who he is wrestling the week his conditioning gets blitzed through a weekend match.

 

[mcpat]

133 should be a good one. Ayala, Crookham, Bailey, Ragusin, etc. Will be interesting to see what Davis looks like up a weight.

 

[El-Jefe]

Whether he has a 100% bonus rate is probably dependent on who he is wrestling the week his conditioning gets blitzed through a weekend match.

Sounds good until looking at the competition. Conditioning Week is always with 2 conference duals, and B10 is very weak at 165 this year. Caliendo is by far the next best guy, he has yet to avoid bonus vs Mesenbrink, and Iowa is never one of those matches.

Sasso could probably prevent bonus -- if he's at 165 and fully recovered, both of which are not givens. And Ohio State is also unlikely to be a conditioning match.

After that, hot knife thru butter.

WrestleStat | Wrestler Rankings | 165 lbs | big-ten

www.wrestlestat.com

 

[wrestlingfan22]

Sounds good until looking at the competition. Conditioning Week is always with 2 conference duals, and B10 is very weak at 165 this year. Caliendo is by far the next best guy, he has yet to avoid bonus vs Mesenbrink, and Iowa is never one of those matches.

Sasso could probably prevent bonus -- if he's at 165 and fully recovered, both of which are not givens. And Ohio State is also unlikely to be a conditioning match.

After that, hot knife thru butter.

WrestleStat | Wrestler Rankings | 165 lbs | big-ten

www.wrestlestat.com

Amine is the one guy other than Sasso that I could see preventing bonus based on their ncaas match. But based on their first match I would expect Amine to get stalled out. So I guess any MM vs Amine match would be a test of the DT effect in Stillwater

 

[El-Jefe]

Amine is the one guy other than Sasso that I could see preventing bonus based on their ncaas match. But based on their first match I would expect Amine to get stalled out. So I guess any MM vs Amine match would be a test of the DT effect in Stillwater

Non-zero chance there, except OKST would not be part of a Conditioning Week even if on the schedule.

 

[AndEEss]

Sounds good until looking at the competition. Conditioning Week is always with 2 conference duals, and B10 is very weak at 165 this year. Caliendo is by far the next best guy, he has yet to avoid bonus vs Mesenbrink, and Iowa is never one of those matches.

Sasso could probably prevent bonus -- if he's at 165 and fully recovered, both of which are not givens. And Ohio State is also unlikely to be a conditioning match.

After that, hot knife thru butter.

WrestleStat | Wrestler Rankings | 165 lbs | big-ten

www.wrestlestat.com

Sasso's main advantage at 149 was that he was absolutely huge compared to everyone else. It's a lot easier to lock up a cradle on someone who is 3" shorter than you.

Unless he's also grown taller during his recovery, Sasso won't have the advantage over most 165s. Mesenbrink was (perhaps past tense now) a bit under-developed in terms of pure muscle last year, but has a pretty normal frame for the weight. He's also coached by Casey Cunningham.