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Update: Pulling double duty today and combining 2017 and 2018 into one update. Without further ado here is your Ohio State visitor list of note:

Ohio State visitors: Official: McFarland Jr., Harris, Oladipo, Bolds. Non Official: Wade, Davis, Castro-Fields, Campbell, Dudek, Ruiz, Leach.
2018: Slade, Tutt, Fontaine, Young, Raines, Anderson-Butts, Scruggs, Hooker, Clement, Gregory, Morgan, Smith (WR), Gant, Hawkins, Smith (DE), Manns, Scott, Ruckert, Reigelsperger, AsaMoah, Hoelscher

Now that is just crazy. Lamont Wade making another on campus appearance after two at Tennessee is good news. Tariq Castro-Fields is a top target for Alabama so great to get him in as well, especially after Pitts decommitment. Danny Davis at one time got a few crystal balls to Penn State then visited Kentucky a few times and they are the perceived leaders. Would be great get at wider receiver. Kyree Campbell was the 41st DT in 2016 but didn’t qualify for entry at UNC and is a very interesting prospect. Jaylen Harris is taking an official which is great and the longer his recruitment goes on the better it is for PSU as it means OSU is holding out for someone else at WR. Illini commit Oladipo is on an official and the staff view him as a potential do everything D-lineman. I am not convinced he is and think we have enough of those types on the roster already. Makes me wonder if they see him as a fallback or if he is a take right now. Corey Bolds was reported as taking an official to this game by Scout but I have yet to see it repeated elsewhere (someone in the know can confirm). It would be nice to get an official from him as he fits more of a traditional DT. Anthony McFarland Jr is definitely favorited to Miami right now, but we were out of his top 5 and still got one of his 5 official visits. This is great news.

In a perfect transition to the 2018 list; McFarland is from Dematha and bringing 2018 prospects Gregory, Fontaine (who would be such a huge get at a position of need), and Morgan (who we are the absolute favorite for). Slade on campus again and he becoming a regular. Christian Tutt is a top CB prospect from GA. His recruitment will be national but great to get him on campus. PA prospects Young, Raines, and Anderson-Butts are familiar names. Fredrick Scruggs getting on campus is big news, would have been nice if his teammate and ND commit, Matthew Bauer would be joining him. Marcus Hooker is Malik’s younger brother and destined to follow him to OSU. Iverson Clement is a great ATH prospect who could play RB/WR or I see him ending up at CB for Penn State. Great speed and lots of options with him. Jeremy Ruckert the TE from NY will also be on hand, he is one of many TEs that PSU is after for 2018 in a quest to take 2 or 3 after whiffing in 2017. The rest of the names are all from the state of OH: L’Christian Smith WR (3rd prospect in OH for ‘18), Dallas Gant OLB (4th), Tyreke Smith DE (6th), Blaine Scott G (14th), Aeneas Hawkins (15th), Alex Reigelsperger DE (17th), Jornell Manns WR (18th), Cameron Hoelscher ILB (22nd), Brian AsaMoah OLB (UR). That is an incredible list from the state of Ohio where up until this year it has been tough goings for Penn State for quite a while. I find it hard to believe that OSU will let anyone ranked in the top 5 of OH go easily, so while it is nice to get them here, expectations should be tempered. Also, and I hate to say it but from a contrarian position you could point out that there home state Buckeyes are possibly a historically good young team playing in one of the greatest venues of all college football in a White House at Beaver Stadium, it makes you wonder who they’re coming to see. I hope that is not the case, but I would be remiss to not at least acknowledge the possibility.

On to the rankings. Just want to touch on a few names in the 2017 rankings. While McFarland is favorited to Miami getting him in an official has him moved up. Same for Danny Davis getting back on campus. Anthony Hines probably isn’t coming to Penn State but I think it is a lot closer than his crystal ball makes it seem. On the flip side I don’t think Proctor is likely to pick Penn State. The reason is because he just doesn’t seem to have the makeup of the kid who normally picks Penn State in that he wants to make his decision with a public hat pick on signing day; we NEVER win that. Also, he’s in contact recently with Ole Miss. I think there is still time to work on Jordan Anthony especially with family connections to PSU, but now his is favorited to Michigan. Wade-Perry continues to hold out for that Stanford offer. I don’t think Hutch is coming to Penn State. I know some will get angry at that prediction but I just don’t see it. If we strike out with the other LBs, look for Zane Zandier (great name) to get an offer and jump at it. I really like how he plays and am actually hoping he does eventually get an offer. My flip watch is just a list of players we will stay after until signing day. I think Spence, Hainsey, and Kaindoh are the best chances to change their mind. Kaindoh though will probably be to FSU. I would have loved to get one or two of the ND or UMD commits on campus for this game.

Please let me know if I missed something or your general comments!

Commit Watch:
:(

Very Good Chance:
4/5* CB Wade, 3* CB Johnson

In The Battle:
4* RB McFarland Jr., 4* WR Harris, 4* LB Hines, 4* RB/LB Anthony, 4* OLB Proctor, 4* WR Davis, 3* DT Wade-Perry, 3* WR Hamler, 3* ATH Castro-Fields, 3* OLB Zandier, 3* DT Campbell

Work Left To Do:
4* ATH Bowden, 4* WR Ruggs, 4* ATH Bell, 4* DL Jeter, 3* DL Conliffe, 3* DT Martin, 3* DT Bolds, 3* DT Hutch, 3* OT Becton, 3* S Nelson, 3* DL Butler, JUCO OT Traore

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* OT Wilson, 4* CB Thomas, 4* ATH Hunter, 4* OLB Singleton, 4* C Ruiz

Flip Watch:
Cam Spence (Maryland), Robert Hainsey (Notre Dame), Josh Kaindoh (Maryland), Mark Webb (Georgia), D’Andre Swift (Georgia), David Adams (Notre Dame), Kurt Hinnish (Notre Dame), Axel Nyembwe (Duke), Tommy Christ (Virginia)

2018:
Commit Watch (if it ended today):
4* S Humphries, 4* WR Anderson-Butts, 3* OLB Katshir, 3* TE Pitts, 3* DE Morgan

Very Good Chance:
5* RB Slade, 4* S Young, 4* S Raines, 4* DE Hardy, 4* OT Scruggs, 4* WR Provillon, 4* ATH Clement, 3/4* QB Fields, 3* QB Patterson, LB McElroy, 3* CB Paul

In The Battle:
4/5* TE Kuntz, 4* DT Fontaine, 4* DT Mustipher, 4* TE Ruckert, 4* CB Tutt, 4* LB Gant, 4* DE Smith, 4* G Gregory, 4* LB Shelton, 3/4* WR Simmons, 3* G Scott, 3* LB Bastida, 3* DT Hawkins, 3* WR Manns, 3* ILB Hoelscher

Work Left To Do:
4* DT Friday, 4* WR Dotson, 4* DT Sandidge, 4* WR Smith, 4* OT Duncan, 4* ATH Gervin, 4* ATH Hooker, 3* DE Reigelsperger

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* RB Gill, 4* S Lytton, 3* OT Reed , 3* DT Stills
 
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Update: Pulling double duty today and combining 2017 and 2018 into one update. Without further ado here is your Ohio State visitor list of note:

Ohio State visitors: Official: McFarland Jr., Harris, Oladipo, Bolds. Non Official: Wade, Davis, Castro-Fields, Campbell, Dudek, Ruiz, Leach.
2018: Slade, Tutt, Fontaine, Young, Raines, Anderson-Butts, Scruggs, Hooker, Clement, Gregory, Morgan, Smith (WR), Gant, Hawkins, Smith (DE), Manns, Scott, Ruckert, Reigelsperger, AsaMoah, Hoelscher

Now that is just crazy. Lamont Wade making another on campus appearance after two at Tennessee is good news. Tariq Castro-Fields is a top target for Alabama so great to get him in as well, especially after Pitts decommitment. Danny Davis at one time got a few crystal balls to Penn State then visited Kentucky a few times and they are the perceived leaders. Would be great get at wider receiver. Kyree Campbell was the 41st DT in 2016 but didn’t qualify for entry at UNC and is a very interesting prospect. Jaylen Harris is taking an official which is great and the longer his recruitment goes on the better it is for PSU as it means OSU is holding out for someone else at WR. Illini commit Oladipo is on an official and the staff view him as a potential do everything D-lineman. I am not convinced he is and think we have enough of those types on the roster already. Makes me wonder if they see him as a fallback or if he is a take right now. Corey Bolds was reported as taking an official to this game by Scout but I have yet to see it repeated elsewhere (someone in the know can confirm). It would be nice to get an official from him as he fits more of a traditional DT. Anthony McFarland Jr is definitely favorited to Miami right now, but we were out of his top 5 and still got one of his 5 official visits. This is great news.

In a perfect transition to the 2018 list; McFarland is from Dematha and bringing 2018 prospects Gregory, Fontaine (who would be such a huge get at a position of need), and Morgan (who we are the absolute favorite for). Slade on campus again and he becoming a regular. Christian Tutt is a top CB prospect from GA. His recruitment will be national but great to get him on campus. PA prospects Young, Raines, and Anderson-Butts are familiar names. Fredrick Scruggs getting on campus is big news, would have been nice if his teammate and ND commit, Matthew Bauer would be joining him. Marcus Hooker is Malik’s younger brother and destined to follow him to OSU. Iverson Clement is a great ATH prospect who could play RB/WR or I see him ending up at CB for Penn State. Great speed and lots of options with him. Jeremy Ruckert the TE from NY will also be on hand, he is one of many TEs that PSU is after for 2018 in a quest to take 2 or 3 after whiffing in 2017. The rest of the names are all from the state of OH: L’Christian Smith WR (3rd prospect in OH for ‘18), Dallas Gant OLB (4th), Tyreke Smith DE (6th), Blaine Scott G (14th), Aeneas Hawkins (15th), Alex Reigelsperger DE (17th), Jornell Manns WR (18th), Cameron Hoelscher ILB (22nd), Brian AsaMoah OLB (UR). That is an incredible list from the state of Ohio where up until this year it has been tough goings for Penn State for quite a while. I find it hard to believe that OSU will let anyone ranked in the top 5 of OH go easily, so while it is nice to get them here, expectations should be tempered. Also, and I hate to say it but from a contrarian position you could point out that there home state Buckeyes are possibly a historically good young team playing in one of the greatest venues of all college football in a White House at Beaver Stadium, it makes you wonder who they’re coming to see. I hope that is not the case, but I would be remiss to not at least acknowledge the possibility.

On to the rankings. Just want to touch on a few names in the 2017 rankings. While McFarland is favorited to Miami getting him in an official has him moved up. Same for Danny Davis getting back on campus. Anthony Hines probably isn’t coming to Penn State but I think it is a lot closer than his crystal ball makes it seem. On the flip side I don’t think Proctor is likely to pick Penn State. The reason is because he just doesn’t seem to have the makeup of the kid who normally picks Penn State in that he wants to make his decision with a public hat pick on signing day; we NEVER win that. Also, he’s in contact recently with Ole Miss. I think there is still time to work on Jordan Anthony especially with family connections to PSU, but now his is favorited to Michigan. Wade-Perry continues to hold out for that Stanford offer. I don’t think Hutch is coming to Penn State. I know some will get angry at that prediction but I just don’t see it. If we strike out with the other LBs, look for Zane Zandier (great name) to get an offer and jump at it. I really like how he plays and am actually hoping he does eventually get an offer. My flip watch is just a list of players we will stay after until signing day. I think Spence, Hainsey, and Kaindoh are the best chances to change their mind. Kaindoh though will probably be to FSU. I would have loved to get one or two of the ND or UMD commits on campus for this game.

Please let me know if I missed something or your general comments!

Commit Watch:
:(

Very Good Chance:
4/5* CB Wade, 3* CB Johnson

In The Battle:
4* RB McFarland Jr., 4* WR Harris, 4* LB Hines, 4* RB/LB Anthony, 4* OLB Proctor, 4* WR Davis, 3* DT Wade-Perry, 3* WR Hamler, 3* ATH Castro-Fields, 3* OLB Zandier, 3* Campbell

Work Left To Do:
4* ATH Bowden, 4* WR Ruggs, 4* ATH Bell, 4* DL Jeter, 3* DL Conliffe, 3* DT Martin, 3* DT Bolds, 3* DT Hutch, 3* OT Becton, 3* S Nelson, 3* DL Butler, JUCO OT Traore

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* OT Wilson, 4* CB Thomas, 4* ATH Hunter, 4* OLB Singleton, 4* C Ruiz

Flip Watch:
Cam Spence (Maryland), Robert Hainsey (Notre Dame), Josh Kaindoh (Maryland), Mark Webb (Georgia), D’Andre Swift (Georgia), David Adams (Notre Dame), Kurt Hinnish (Notre Dame), Axel Nyembwe (Duke), Tommy Christ (Virginia)

2018:
Commit Watch (if it ended today):
4* S Humphries, 4* WR Anderson-Butts, 3* OLB Katshir, 3* TE Pitts, 3* DE Morgan

Very Good Chance:
5* RB Slade, 4* S Young, 4* S Raines, 4* DE Hardy, 4* OT Scruggs, 4* WR Provillon, 4* ATH Clement, 3/4* QB Fields, 3* QB Patterson, LB McElroy, 3* CB Paul

In The Battle:
4/5* TE Kuntz, 4* DT Fontaine, 4* DT Mustipher, 4* TE Ruckert, 4* CB Tutt, 4* LB Gant, 4* DE Smith, 4* G Gregory, 4* LB Shelton, 3/4* WR Simmons, 3* G Scott, 3* LB Bastida, 3* DT Hawkins, 3* WR Manns, 3* ILB Hoelscher

Work Left To Do:
4* DT Friday, 4* WR Dotson, 4* DT Sandidge, 4* WR Smith, 4* OT Duncan, 4* ATH Gervin, 4* ATH Hooker, 3* DE Reigelsperger

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* RB Gill, 4* S Lytton, 3* OT Reed , 3* DT Stills

Well it's about damn time!!!

:):):);):):)
 
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Update: Pulling double duty today and combining 2017 and 2018 into one update. Without further ado here is your Ohio State visitor list of note:

Ohio State visitors: Official: McFarland Jr., Harris, Oladipo, Bolds. Non Official: Wade, Davis, Castro-Fields, Campbell, Dudek, Ruiz, Leach.
2018: Slade, Tutt, Fontaine, Young, Raines, Anderson-Butts, Scruggs, Hooker, Clement, Gregory, Morgan, Smith (WR), Gant, Hawkins, Smith (DE), Manns, Scott, Ruckert, Reigelsperger, AsaMoah, Hoelscher

Now that is just crazy. Lamont Wade making another on campus appearance after two at Tennessee is good news. Tariq Castro-Fields is a top target for Alabama so great to get him in as well, especially after Pitts decommitment. Danny Davis at one time got a few crystal balls to Penn State then visited Kentucky a few times and they are the perceived leaders. Would be great get at wider receiver. Kyree Campbell was the 41st DT in 2016 but didn’t qualify for entry at UNC and is a very interesting prospect. Jaylen Harris is taking an official which is great and the longer his recruitment goes on the better it is for PSU as it means OSU is holding out for someone else at WR. Illini commit Oladipo is on an official and the staff view him as a potential do everything D-lineman. I am not convinced he is and think we have enough of those types on the roster already. Makes me wonder if they see him as a fallback or if he is a take right now. Corey Bolds was reported as taking an official to this game by Scout but I have yet to see it repeated elsewhere (someone in the know can confirm). It would be nice to get an official from him as he fits more of a traditional DT. Anthony McFarland Jr is definitely favorited to Miami right now, but we were out of his top 5 and still got one of his 5 official visits. This is great news.

In a perfect transition to the 2018 list; McFarland is from Dematha and bringing 2018 prospects Gregory, Fontaine (who would be such a huge get at a position of need), and Morgan (who we are the absolute favorite for). Slade on campus again and he becoming a regular. Christian Tutt is a top CB prospect from GA. His recruitment will be national but great to get him on campus. PA prospects Young, Raines, and Anderson-Butts are familiar names. Fredrick Scruggs getting on campus is big news, would have been nice if his teammate and ND commit, Matthew Bauer would be joining him. Marcus Hooker is Malik’s younger brother and destined to follow him to OSU. Iverson Clement is a great ATH prospect who could play RB/WR or I see him ending up at CB for Penn State. Great speed and lots of options with him. Jeremy Ruckert the TE from NY will also be on hand, he is one of many TEs that PSU is after for 2018 in a quest to take 2 or 3 after whiffing in 2017. The rest of the names are all from the state of OH: L’Christian Smith WR (3rd prospect in OH for ‘18), Dallas Gant OLB (4th), Tyreke Smith DE (6th), Blaine Scott G (14th), Aeneas Hawkins (15th), Alex Reigelsperger DE (17th), Jornell Manns WR (18th), Cameron Hoelscher ILB (22nd), Brian AsaMoah OLB (UR). That is an incredible list from the state of Ohio where up until this year it has been tough goings for Penn State for quite a while. I find it hard to believe that OSU will let anyone ranked in the top 5 of OH go easily, so while it is nice to get them here, expectations should be tempered. Also, and I hate to say it but from a contrarian position you could point out that there home state Buckeyes are possibly a historically good young team playing in one of the greatest venues of all college football in a White House at Beaver Stadium, it makes you wonder who they’re coming to see. I hope that is not the case, but I would be remiss to not at least acknowledge the possibility.

On to the rankings. Just want to touch on a few names in the 2017 rankings. While McFarland is favorited to Miami getting him in an official has him moved up. Same for Danny Davis getting back on campus. Anthony Hines probably isn’t coming to Penn State but I think it is a lot closer than his crystal ball makes it seem. On the flip side I don’t think Proctor is likely to pick Penn State. The reason is because he just doesn’t seem to have the makeup of the kid who normally picks Penn State in that he wants to make his decision with a public hat pick on signing day; we NEVER win that. Also, he’s in contact recently with Ole Miss. I think there is still time to work on Jordan Anthony especially with family connections to PSU, but now his is favorited to Michigan. Wade-Perry continues to hold out for that Stanford offer. I don’t think Hutch is coming to Penn State. I know some will get angry at that prediction but I just don’t see it. If we strike out with the other LBs, look for Zane Zandier (great name) to get an offer and jump at it. I really like how he plays and am actually hoping he does eventually get an offer. My flip watch is just a list of players we will stay after until signing day. I think Spence, Hainsey, and Kaindoh are the best chances to change their mind. Kaindoh though will probably be to FSU. I would have loved to get one or two of the ND or UMD commits on campus for this game.

Please let me know if I missed something or your general comments!

Commit Watch:
:(

Very Good Chance:
4/5* CB Wade, 3* CB Johnson

In The Battle:
4* RB McFarland Jr., 4* WR Harris, 4* LB Hines, 4* RB/LB Anthony, 4* OLB Proctor, 4* WR Davis, 3* DT Wade-Perry, 3* WR Hamler, 3* ATH Castro-Fields, 3* OLB Zandier, 3* Campbell

Work Left To Do:
4* ATH Bowden, 4* WR Ruggs, 4* ATH Bell, 4* DL Jeter, 3* DL Conliffe, 3* DT Martin, 3* DT Bolds, 3* DT Hutch, 3* OT Becton, 3* S Nelson, 3* DL Butler, JUCO OT Traore

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* OT Wilson, 4* CB Thomas, 4* ATH Hunter, 4* OLB Singleton, 4* C Ruiz

Flip Watch:
Cam Spence (Maryland), Robert Hainsey (Notre Dame), Josh Kaindoh (Maryland), Mark Webb (Georgia), D’Andre Swift (Georgia), David Adams (Notre Dame), Kurt Hinnish (Notre Dame), Axel Nyembwe (Duke), Tommy Christ (Virginia)

2018:
Commit Watch (if it ended today):
4* S Humphries, 4* WR Anderson-Butts, 3* OLB Katshir, 3* TE Pitts, 3* DE Morgan

Very Good Chance:
5* RB Slade, 4* S Young, 4* S Raines, 4* DE Hardy, 4* OT Scruggs, 4* WR Provillon, 4* ATH Clement, 3/4* QB Fields, 3* QB Patterson, LB McElroy, 3* CB Paul

In The Battle:
4/5* TE Kuntz, 4* DT Fontaine, 4* DT Mustipher, 4* TE Ruckert, 4* CB Tutt, 4* LB Gant, 4* DE Smith, 4* G Gregory, 4* LB Shelton, 3/4* WR Simmons, 3* G Scott, 3* LB Bastida, 3* DT Hawkins, 3* WR Manns, 3* ILB Hoelscher

Work Left To Do:
4* DT Friday, 4* WR Dotson, 4* DT Sandidge, 4* WR Smith, 4* OT Duncan, 4* ATH Gervin, 4* ATH Hooker, 3* DE Reigelsperger

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* RB Gill, 4* S Lytton, 3* OT Reed , 3* DT Stills

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Update: Pulling double duty today and combining 2017 and 2018 into one update. Without further ado here is your Ohio State visitor list of note:

Ohio State visitors: Official: McFarland Jr., Harris, Oladipo, Bolds. Non Official: Wade, Davis, Castro-Fields, Campbell, Dudek, Ruiz, Leach.
2018: Slade, Tutt, Fontaine, Young, Raines, Anderson-Butts, Scruggs, Hooker, Clement, Gregory, Morgan, Smith (WR), Gant, Hawkins, Smith (DE), Manns, Scott, Ruckert, Reigelsperger, AsaMoah, Hoelscher

Now that is just crazy. Lamont Wade making another on campus appearance after two at Tennessee is good news. Tariq Castro-Fields is a top target for Alabama so great to get him in as well, especially after Pitts decommitment. Danny Davis at one time got a few crystal balls to Penn State then visited Kentucky a few times and they are the perceived leaders. Would be great get at wider receiver. Kyree Campbell was the 41st DT in 2016 but didn’t qualify for entry at UNC and is a very interesting prospect. Jaylen Harris is taking an official which is great and the longer his recruitment goes on the better it is for PSU as it means OSU is holding out for someone else at WR. Illini commit Oladipo is on an official and the staff view him as a potential do everything D-lineman. I am not convinced he is and think we have enough of those types on the roster already. Makes me wonder if they see him as a fallback or if he is a take right now. Corey Bolds was reported as taking an official to this game by Scout but I have yet to see it repeated elsewhere (someone in the know can confirm). It would be nice to get an official from him as he fits more of a traditional DT. Anthony McFarland Jr is definitely favorited to Miami right now, but we were out of his top 5 and still got one of his 5 official visits. This is great news.

In a perfect transition to the 2018 list; McFarland is from Dematha and bringing 2018 prospects Gregory, Fontaine (who would be such a huge get at a position of need), and Morgan (who we are the absolute favorite for). Slade on campus again and he becoming a regular. Christian Tutt is a top CB prospect from GA. His recruitment will be national but great to get him on campus. PA prospects Young, Raines, and Anderson-Butts are familiar names. Fredrick Scruggs getting on campus is big news, would have been nice if his teammate and ND commit, Matthew Bauer would be joining him. Marcus Hooker is Malik’s younger brother and destined to follow him to OSU. Iverson Clement is a great ATH prospect who could play RB/WR or I see him ending up at CB for Penn State. Great speed and lots of options with him. Jeremy Ruckert the TE from NY will also be on hand, he is one of many TEs that PSU is after for 2018 in a quest to take 2 or 3 after whiffing in 2017. The rest of the names are all from the state of OH: L’Christian Smith WR (3rd prospect in OH for ‘18), Dallas Gant OLB (4th), Tyreke Smith DE (6th), Blaine Scott G (14th), Aeneas Hawkins (15th), Alex Reigelsperger DE (17th), Jornell Manns WR (18th), Cameron Hoelscher ILB (22nd), Brian AsaMoah OLB (UR). That is an incredible list from the state of Ohio where up until this year it has been tough goings for Penn State for quite a while. I find it hard to believe that OSU will let anyone ranked in the top 5 of OH go easily, so while it is nice to get them here, expectations should be tempered. Also, and I hate to say it but from a contrarian position you could point out that there home state Buckeyes are possibly a historically good young team playing in one of the greatest venues of all college football in a White House at Beaver Stadium, it makes you wonder who they’re coming to see. I hope that is not the case, but I would be remiss to not at least acknowledge the possibility.

On to the rankings. Just want to touch on a few names in the 2017 rankings. While McFarland is favorited to Miami getting him in an official has him moved up. Same for Danny Davis getting back on campus. Anthony Hines probably isn’t coming to Penn State but I think it is a lot closer than his crystal ball makes it seem. On the flip side I don’t think Proctor is likely to pick Penn State. The reason is because he just doesn’t seem to have the makeup of the kid who normally picks Penn State in that he wants to make his decision with a public hat pick on signing day; we NEVER win that. Also, he’s in contact recently with Ole Miss. I think there is still time to work on Jordan Anthony especially with family connections to PSU, but now his is favorited to Michigan. Wade-Perry continues to hold out for that Stanford offer. I don’t think Hutch is coming to Penn State. I know some will get angry at that prediction but I just don’t see it. If we strike out with the other LBs, look for Zane Zandier (great name) to get an offer and jump at it. I really like how he plays and am actually hoping he does eventually get an offer. My flip watch is just a list of players we will stay after until signing day. I think Spence, Hainsey, and Kaindoh are the best chances to change their mind. Kaindoh though will probably be to FSU. I would have loved to get one or two of the ND or UMD commits on campus for this game.

Please let me know if I missed something or your general comments!

Commit Watch:
:(

Very Good Chance:
4/5* CB Wade, 3* CB Johnson

In The Battle:
4* RB McFarland Jr., 4* WR Harris, 4* LB Hines, 4* RB/LB Anthony, 4* OLB Proctor, 4* WR Davis, 3* DT Wade-Perry, 3* WR Hamler, 3* ATH Castro-Fields, 3* OLB Zandier, 3* Campbell

Work Left To Do:
4* ATH Bowden, 4* WR Ruggs, 4* ATH Bell, 4* DL Jeter, 3* DL Conliffe, 3* DT Martin, 3* DT Bolds, 3* DT Hutch, 3* OT Becton, 3* S Nelson, 3* DL Butler, JUCO OT Traore

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* OT Wilson, 4* CB Thomas, 4* ATH Hunter, 4* OLB Singleton, 4* C Ruiz

Flip Watch:
Cam Spence (Maryland), Robert Hainsey (Notre Dame), Josh Kaindoh (Maryland), Mark Webb (Georgia), D’Andre Swift (Georgia), David Adams (Notre Dame), Kurt Hinnish (Notre Dame), Axel Nyembwe (Duke), Tommy Christ (Virginia)

2018:
Commit Watch (if it ended today):
4* S Humphries, 4* WR Anderson-Butts, 3* OLB Katshir, 3* TE Pitts, 3* DE Morgan

Very Good Chance:
5* RB Slade, 4* S Young, 4* S Raines, 4* DE Hardy, 4* OT Scruggs, 4* WR Provillon, 4* ATH Clement, 3/4* QB Fields, 3* QB Patterson, LB McElroy, 3* CB Paul

In The Battle:
4/5* TE Kuntz, 4* DT Fontaine, 4* DT Mustipher, 4* TE Ruckert, 4* CB Tutt, 4* LB Gant, 4* DE Smith, 4* G Gregory, 4* LB Shelton, 3/4* WR Simmons, 3* G Scott, 3* LB Bastida, 3* DT Hawkins, 3* WR Manns, 3* ILB Hoelscher

Work Left To Do:
4* DT Friday, 4* WR Dotson, 4* DT Sandidge, 4* WR Smith, 4* OT Duncan, 4* ATH Gervin, 4* ATH Hooker, 3* DE Reigelsperger

Have To Get Really Lucky:
5* RB Gill, 4* S Lytton, 3* OT Reed , 3* DT Stills
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Good read. Thanks for the insight.

thanks for good analysis. not all positions are of equal importance. we have urgency as LBs with size and athleticism who will be able to play as FR along the line of what you see in the big boy programs. the staff has done an outstanding job at every position other than LB and to an extent DT.....our two best positions in the NFL. LB is critical since the staff will have to manufacture LBs from players at other positions, if they miss again.

as Chris Fowler said today, there is an expectation that PSU needs to start producing on the field. this is not the view of PSU administration or most internally in the PSU community. However, the media and most important RECRUITS have already forgotten the sanctions and are just looking at what they see on the field. Fowler pointed to the Univ Michigan game as being a reality check in the way the nation (and recruits) see currently. Fowler referred to a 9 win season as showing the right kind of progress. he implied that a step back to what we saw last year would not sell the recruits PSU needs to succeed.
 
thanks for good analysis. not all positions are of equal importance. we have urgency as LBs with size and athleticism who will be able to play as FR along the line of what you see in the big boy programs. the staff has done an outstanding job at every position other than LB and to an extent DT.....our two best positions in the NFL. LB is critical since the staff will have to manufacture LBs from players at other positions, if they miss again.

as Chris Fowler said today, there is an expectation that PSU needs to start producing on the field. this is not the view of PSU administration or most internally in the PSU community. However, the media and most important RECRUITS have already forgotten the sanctions and are just looking at what they see on the field. Fowler pointed to the Univ Michigan game as being a reality check in the way the nation (and recruits) see currently. Fowler referred to a 9 win season as showing the right kind of progress. he implied that a step back to what we saw last year would not sell the recruits PSU needs to succeed.
In terms of LBs none of the recruits from 2017 should see the field as freshman. We have Cabinda, Smith, Bowen, Brown, Cooper, and Farmer all back all with experience now. That said if the need were to arise Rivers and Faison-Walden are both good enough to fill in if necessary, hopefully they won't be needed. It would be nice to add a Hines, Anthony, or Proctor to this class, but right now it's not needed. One reason it would be nice is LB isn't a deep position in 2018.

For DT it's really about finding a 1 tech type guy like Wade-Perry or just higher talent level guys than what we have brought in recently for a higher natural ceiling.

How recruits view us does have something to do with outcomes but I think with the wins over Minn and UMD we have already shown we are an improving team. Regardless of tonight's outcome this team should have a good shot at winning every other game. Will they? Probably not, but I think 8 wins with an extremely young team and the best all around player in CFB returning will keep what happened last year fro happening again this year. Just the environment tonight will help. It shows the recruits that the fans are here and ready for the talent, just come be apart of it.
 
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No one will say it, but this is not a strong listing of potential recruits.
 
No one will say it, but this is not a strong listing of potential recruits.
For what year?
4 or 5 4* for 2017, a class which is mostly done.

for 2018 I count at least 14 4*s. 7 who are top 125. In what world are you living?

None of those numbers count the guys who are already committed. Also, ACT testing is this weekend.
 
thanks for good analysis. not all positions are of equal importance. we have urgency as LBs with size and athleticism who will be able to play as FR along the line of what you see in the big boy programs. the staff has done an outstanding job at every position other than LB and to an extent DT.....our two best positions in the NFL. LB is critical since the staff will have to manufacture LBs from players at other positions, if they miss again.

as Chris Fowler said today, there is an expectation that PSU needs to start producing on the field. this is not the view of PSU administration or most internally in the PSU community. However, the media and most important RECRUITS have already forgotten the sanctions and are just looking at what they see on the field. Fowler pointed to the Univ Michigan game as being a reality check in the way the nation (and recruits) see currently. Fowler referred to a 9 win season as showing the right kind of progress. he implied that a step back to what we saw last year would not sell the recruits PSU needs to succeed.

Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.
 
Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.
If we're not relevant to recruits you can point squarely at the coaching staff. PSU had a top 15 class two years ago. We're top 10 in fan support, top 5 in stadium capacity, top 15 in facilities overall, and our coach is one of the top 10 highest paid in the country. No excuses.
 
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Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.
This is so morbidly depressing and stupid all at once. Obviously everyone is at the game today or you'd have been roasted by now. Not even a player in our division?? Have you ever heard of Saquon Barkley?? Did Allen Robinson, Carl Nassib (Best defensive player in the country a year ago), and Christian Hackenberg (the top recruit in the country) not play here in the past TWO OR THREE years. For goodness sake, we're relevant on the national stage TONIGHT with a primetime game on ABC, broadcast to most of the country. We're just another place to play, huh? Name another Northeastern College Football stage that is bigger........you know, the area where 30 percent of the country still lives!!!
 
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Nice work. About the only recruit interest ranking that stuck out to me was for 2018 Scott, the OL from Ohio. I believe he has been to campus before and it seems his interest is more like "Very Good Chance".... I see him as the Miranda of the 2018 class...... i.e. a solid OG prospect that will be a mauler for us in the future....
 
This is so morbidly depressing and stupid all at once. Obviously everyone is at the game today or you'd have been roasted by now. Not even a player in our division?? Have you ever heard of Saquon Barkley?? Did Allen Robinson, Carl Nassib (Best defensive player in the country a year ago), and Christian Hackenberg (the top recruit in the country) not play here in the past TWO OR THREE years. For goodness sake, we're relevant on the national stage TONIGHT with a primetime game on ABC, broadcast to most of the country. We're just another place to play, huh? Name another Northeastern College Football stage that is bigger........you know, the area where 30 percent of the country still lives!!!

We're pretty relevant right about now, don't you think?
 
Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.

IDIOT
 
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Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.

Great call, idiot.
 
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Who would want to attend one of our little sh@tty eastern neighbors like pitt, rutgers or md after seeing the atmosphere at Beaver Stadium last night?
 
Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.

How's this guy feeling today?
 
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2018 4* OT Rasheed Walker from MD was also at the game. Was at Lasch Bash and does not yet have an offer.
 
Be prepared to be disappointed. We are a long way from a player on the national stage. We're not even a player in our division right now. The sanctions put us on the mat and it is next to impossible to get back off that mat especially in the division we find ourselves. Fowler and the national media can jaw all they want and they are probably spot on correct, at the end of the day we are just another school and just another team to most of the elite athletes. They have never experienced PSU being relevant in their lifetimes.

And by the way, pretty sure recent recruits were alive in 2008 and 2009 when PSU finished in the Top Ten both years. That certainly counts as "relevant".

2008 Penn State Nittany Lions football

Lambert-Meadowlands Champions
Big Ten Co-Champions
Rose Bowl, L 24–38 vs. USC
Conference
Big Ten Conference
Ranking
Coaches
No. 8
AP No. 8
2008 record 11–2 (7–1 Big Ten)

2009 Penn State Nittany Lions football

Lambert-Meadowlands Champions
Capital One Bowl champion
Capital One Bowl vs LSU, W 19–17
Conference
Big Ten Conference
Ranking
Coaches
No. 8
AP No. 9
2009 record 11–2 (6–2 Big Ten)
 
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Cesar Ruiz:


Jordan Anthony:
@ Cam Brown


Cam Spence:
He also posted a bunch about UMDs win...so

Dalyn Wade-Perry:
 
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Lamont Wade:



I'm not sure what this one means (if he's serious or saying it got a lot easier):


Probably not related but neither Robert Hainsey or Mark Webb have tweeted once since the game.

Nothing on the game from Donovan Johnson, Anthony Hines, Nathan Proctor, KJ Hamler, or Tariq Castro-Fields.
 
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If we're not relevant to recruits you can point squarely at the coaching staff. PSU had a top 15 class two years ago. We're top 10 in fan support, top 5 in stadium capacity, top 15 in facilities overall, and our coach is one of the top 10 highest paid in the country. No excuses.
I probably would have commented on this without the win on Saturday. There have been legitimate concerns that are not excuses. You should appreciate that you have Franklin prior to Saturday and now tough shit because your stuck with him! You have no more excuses
 
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